SCOTUS overturns Roe megathread (pg 53 - confirmed)

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Why would Joe Biden let this happen

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I've made my stance clear regarding riots, threats of violence, and protesting outside the homes of politicians.

National Democrats have also, repeatedly, consistently, loudly, been clear on this.

But that doesn't stop right-wingers from simply lying even more repeatedly, loudly and consistently.  For everyone one speech Joe Biden gives saying "don't engage in violence, don't send threats, etc." you have six hundred Republicans delivering monologues saying "Joe Biden is encouraging violence, telling people to send threats, etc."

If lying had any consequences whatsoever, the Republican Party would cease to exist tomorrow.  The entire party is built on lies.  Their entire political strategy is built on lies.  Their entire ideology is a big fat lie.  They lied about their convictions regarding the confirmation process, twice, to get Gorsuch and ACB onto the Supreme Court.  They lied on Kavanaugh's behalf and allowed him to repeatedly commit perjury to get him on the court.  They encouraged all three justices to lie about their plans regarding abortion to get on the court, and then lied that they believed those justices when they were lying.  Even now they're lying to our faces about their plans regarding abortion laws and how they intend to abuse Samuel Alito's ruling, which itself is packed full of lies.

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I pray there is no violence! I do not want Spanberger to lose!

She would lose if there is mass violence by the liberals.

All it takes is one single person to get violent and conservatives will broadcast the footage 24/7 on every platform and talk about it nonstop and make a dozen threads asking "why won't liberals condemn the 6/24 violence" and draw a false equivalence between it and 1/6, and spend the next decade trying to gaslight us into thinking the entire thing was super violent by constantly bringing up that one moment of violence and ignoring the tens of millions of people who will undoubtedly protest peacefully.

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It's been sadly unsurprising to see folks on the left come out in force to blame and attack the Democrats for this ruling.  As usual, the Republican Party is just some immutable force of nature that bears no responsibility for its crimes.  The only actor with any agency is the Democratic Party, and whenever anything bad happens, it's because Democrats failed to stop it, meaning they bear full responsibility.  This is unironically the worldview of a whole lot of people of the left (mostly "left-leaning independents").

No, Democrats did not "let this happen" by refusing to codify Roe or expand the court or what have you.

The Obama-era supermajority had lots of pro-lifers, that's how it was able to get so large with lots of red state senators.  Even if they'd codified Roe, this court would just rule that codification unconstitutional.  I wrote about this previously.

Manchin won't let us expand the court, and expanding the court is a really bad idea.  FDR wasn't actually able to expand the court, even when he had 3-1 Congressional majorities.  And even if we did, Republicans would just expand it again when they get into power, and undo all our phony rulings.

RBG couldn't have prevented this by retiring either.  This was a 6-3 decision, and as I've written about before.  It would have just been the Merrick Garland crisis a year or two earlier.  This is what Ginsburg herself said was her reason for not retiring.

Lastly, a lot of progressives salty about Cisneros losing have been eagerly using this ruling to attack Democrats, as though we're only just now realizing that Cuellar being pro-life is bad.  Like just stop.  Cisneros was a terrible candidate, and as her post-loss bitching and conspiracy-mongering temper tantrum have shown, we absolutely dodged a bullet.  She was so bad that she lost in a primary to a pro-life Dem three times but we're supposed to be confident that she could win a D+5 district in a red wave year?  Democrats don't like that Cuellar is pro-life, but he's a representative so it doesn't really matter, and they didn't want to lose the seat.  This is the obvious reason why the party turned out for Cuellar but progressives refuse to accept it and instead insist it was some grand conspiracy where the party is secretly pro-life.  Grow up.

It's also maddening to see so many people on social media today proposing all sorts of wacky plans to try to fix this.  The only plan that doesn't seem to enter people's minds?  Voting.  That's how Republicans did this.  They showed up, consistently, without bitching or complaining or demanding a bribe, for decades, voting to overturn Roe.  Meanwhile Democratic voters constantly have to be coddled and cajoled and bribed into turning out every two years and then whine incessantly about how much voting sucks.  Even Democratic thought leaders and activists talk constantly about how much the party sucks and how worthless voting is.  Know who doesn't do that?  Republicans.  They just vote.  And when they vote they win.  And when they win, they get to appoint judges who do what they want.  You never hear about Republicans wanting to pack the court or do some wacky complicated House of Cards plan to get their agenda through.  Because they understand that just voting consistently is enough to get most of that they want.

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It's also maddening to see so many people on social media today proposing all sorts of wacky plans to try to fix this.  The only plan that doesn't seem to enter people's minds?  Voting.  That's how Republicans did this.  They showed up, consistently, without bitching or complaining or demanding a bribe, for decades, voting to overturn Roe.  Meanwhile Democratic voters constantly have to be coddled and cajoled and bribed into turning out every two years and then whine incessantly about how much voting sucks.  Even Democratic thought leaders and activists talk constantly about how much the party sucks and how worthless voting is.  Know who doesn't do that?  Republicans.  They just vote.  And when they vote they win.  And when they win, they get to appoint judges who do what they want.  You never hear about Republicans wanting to pack the court or do some wacky complicated House of Cards plan to get their agenda through.  Because they understand that just voting consistently is enough to get most of that they want.

 Bro, Trump just tried to steal an election WTF are you babbling about? Republican would absolutely pack the court if they saw it was their only recourse. McConnell knows the Senate math favors them. What he did with Garland/Gorsuch was a wacky scheme. You are talking absolute nonsense as always. Democrats do vote we win elections and then get weak politicians like Biden who just basically said he has no executive power to fight this bad decision which is bullsh**t. Biden can offer Federal pardons for all women traveling to get an abortion or who receive abortion drugs in the mail and could have stated that in his speech today. The Attorney General can also bring suit against states violating civil rights. Even if it ends up being heard by Republican dominated courts, the Democrats have to fight, including fighting bad state laws with every ounce of federal power.

All you have are impotent, stupid, symbolic ideas that have no chance of actually changing anything.  You know that won't work, but they're a weapon you can use to direct your outrage at Biden and the Democrats.  Anything to avoid blaming Republicans.  Anything to avoid having the solution be something as breathtakingly lame as "organize, donate and vote for Democrats." No no, you see, we could totally protect abortion with this one weird trick but Biden won't do it because he's too weak and stupid and/or secretly pro-life.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/libbyemmons/status/1543200559242641408
“10 year olds need to have their rapist child because libs on Twitter are mean” is really something

We are seeing every day just how much of the right is centered around resentment, identity politics and owning the libs who challenge that.

If you're a conservative under 40, the main reason you want the death penalty for abortion is because it will make the libs cry harder.

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Because we don't have to make a binary choice between solving those two problems.

If your problem at home isn't solved, you don't invite more problems into your home.

See, you see new immigrants arriving in America as "more problems" when most of us view them as a good thing.

Currently, thanks to Joe Biden, we have a tremendous surplus of jobs, which is resulting in higher wages, more unionization, and better work environments.  Fox News keeps telling me this is a really bad thing, and it's a "worker shortage."  I'm assuming Fox doesn't want there to be fewer jobs, right?  So the solution to a worker shortage is to have more workers?

Your hero Elon Musk keeps rambling on about how we're not giving birth to enough children and we're going to experience population decline.  If you agree with him, and are afraid of the United States not having enough people, then wouldn't adding more people be a good thing?

Of course, if you're a white supremacist who sees the presence of any new non-white person in America as a bad thing because they're "replacing" white people, and you agree with your hero Donald Trump that "they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists", then all bets are off.  I wonder when your ancestors immigrated to America and how they were received back then?