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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« on: May 03, 2022, 09:28:57 AM »

We knew from the start that the 6)3 right wing Crt was gonna do this anyways

This is what the people get for electing Trump in 2016 Hillary said he was going to put in right wing judge's
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2022, 04:44:02 PM »


Issue. Polling. Is. Worthless!!!

It is a weak (but real) indicator of just how laughably incompetent and repulsive the Democrats are. They tend to underperform on most issues of the day.

It is still legal overturning Roe doesn't Natl ban Abortion it gives it right to the states and it's legal in every tate

It's just not a Federal issue Amy longer, people get confused when you say overturn Roe they think Abortion is made illegal
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2022, 12:11:23 AM »

Sinema said today she isn't revealing the Filibuster to codify Roe in Da another attempt to try to pass Voting Rights, Voting Rights wouldn't have an effect on Gerrymandering but would guarentees our right to vote more
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2022, 10:46:22 PM »

THE CONCERN IS APPROACHING LEVELS NEVER THOUGHT POSSIBLE



F*** off Susan you completely obnoxious political animal. No one is fooled by your game anymore. Well, other than the 2018 Maine voters

2020
Blame Sara Gideon, the worst Democratic Senate campaign in the country.

Do you realize the Tara Reade and Hunter Biden had an effect on swing female voters, users like to blame the State by state candidates but not Biden, don't forget the stars Reade story came in April a mnth after Super Tuesday and it took a mnth for Biden to come out against it and we had other females in the J especially lose close races like in IA, stop blaming Gideon it was Biden


Also Trump did well in the last debate and won that debate and unemployment dwindled from 9/7, I was on the bus on EDay and WWC voters said Trump will win Unemployment is dwindling

The way Trump came back with 9 percent unemployment and won the Final not first debate because he had COVID, if no Pandemic he would have won outright


There are different interpretation why we didn't win ME or NC there are many issue and it wasn't just George Floyd protests and defined the police
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2022, 09:06:35 PM »

The country already decided the fate of Roe we had two chances in 2004 when Bush W got reelected Alito was confirmed by Collins and Snowe and 2016 when Trump won, the country decided that gun rights were more important than abortion on MI, WI and PA and Hillary warned the country what Trump was up to and both Trump and Bush W praised Scalia and Trump appointed Scalia some to a cabinet post

When Kennedy gift wrapped his seat to Trump die to Don Jr that ended Roe

LA is making it a crime now to abort
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2022, 02:04:26 AM »

As I said in a previous thread Roe Should always be legal and I hope we net a Secularist Trifecta to codify Roe, but I don't vote on Roe I donate to Ds because they're not the Koch bros that cut Entitlement like Rs and Give tax cuts to millionaire's.We don't know what the Turnout will be I just know that state party trends don't always flow in Midterms and the Red waves of 2010/2014 had subpar Obama Approval but it was 92M votes and we have 110/150M votes, we need a result not just Approvals.

But anyways, Boomers in my family regretted Abortion's because you never know how great a person will grow up to be, yeah you can say kids are a nuisance but when they become adults they become good people and useful
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2022, 01:47:40 PM »

Is it all this Forum gonna talk about is Roe it's going back to the states and as long as Biden has the veto pen no natl ban
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2022, 08:18:33 PM »

This is too much, violence in a Pandemic, it's not gonna do anything, the Decision is already made
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2022, 10:39:49 AM »

D's are you winning the 303 blue wall states anyways and Rs are defensive in red states we have enough seats in play to bet the TRIFECTA and a Filibuster proof Senate come Nov
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2022, 10:59:30 AM »

I don't see a problem with this decision I really don't, but it's gonna have an effect on females mostly than men, because Abortion is killing a human being and babies are burdens but adults are helpful once they become adults babies help the parent

The country chose Guns over Abortion in 2016 with Hillary v Trump anyways
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2022, 11:04:30 AM »

What's so ironic is that Rs are against Section 8, food stops and stimulus checks but they want every child born, the irony of that 50 people live in poverty and black and Brown which are the minority represent 30/50 M.in poverty

That's what this Election is about BBB or cut the Govt spending
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2022, 03:00:15 PM »

It's not gonna mean much because in 2016 when Roe was on the ballot voters chose guns over Abortion, it's gonna just reaffirm the blue and red divide we have now, because all the blue states have available access like Cali for abortion anyone can go through Cali to get married if they are gay or HI or have an Abortion

The red states already made their verdictHillary was about to put Garland on the Crt and he would have banned not guns but concealed weapons
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2022, 07:04:45 PM »

This Roe reversal is definitely gonna hurt Rs in the Fall
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2022, 10:47:51 PM »

If D's win in 22)24)26 whenever they get the next D Fillibuster proof Trifecta they are gonna have to expand the Crt, they don't want to but the pressure is gonna be so great that we need Kruger and Child's not 13 judges
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2022, 10:58:09 PM »

This is Ginnsberg fault that's why she will never be regarded as one of the Greatest Judge she will be remembered as long as Rs maintain their Supermajority as the one that let Trump get ACB, I didn't watch her funeral, she should of retired she knew she was sick everyone knows their body and she could sit thru cases
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2022, 11:53:35 PM »

Now, we know as I previously, said that D's was so concerned about a backlash on Crt packing this frees them up if they get the Secularist Trifecta to pack the Crt, if it's a 53/47 PA, WI and OH Senate plus 218 in the H they can pass DC Statehood and get 55 Senators to pack the Crt, Sinema and Manchin will never go for Crt packing but other Ds will

This also helps Demings and Beasley who were seen as too socialistic as Harris types, they will be seen now in a much better light that's why I put NC and FL  on my map
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2022, 06:08:38 AM »

It's all on the news each and every hour ike we are ending Desegregation, Lol it's important that it's gonna lose this right but is not the beginning of segregation, it's gonna energize the under 30 yr olds whom we're thinking about sitting out and in realizet from 40% to 60% that's what it's gonna do we can see a Prez turnout but we still have inflation and we are at the greatest income inequality since the 1970s and the difference is projects in the 1970s and they gave out Pandemic Rental assistance and no Section 8

But, some may think that Thomas may revisit ridding porn when he says end Griswold but more likely what's gonna happen it won't be a federal ban it would go back to states for every issue

Anthony Kennedy was nowhere near retired and he gave his seat to Trump as well as Ginsberg didn't retire
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2022, 11:16:24 AM »
« Edited: June 25, 2022, 11:19:48 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chief-justice-roberts-wanted-slow-090030424.html

Roberts wanted colleges to go slow on Roe but they refused lead by ACB whom have adoption kids

No question ACB replacing Ginsberg changed the make up of this Crt , Trump wants to be Prez again and appoint more Scalias at the Appeals level, NOT, he never appoints anyone of color
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2022, 12:56:20 PM »

D's have plenty of races in the H and S to net the TRIFECTA again, but clearly everyone knows OH, FL and NC are the Tipping pt races if Rs lose those the D's will keep the H and Beasley and Demings are only 5/6 pts down and Ryan is tied and Crist is tied, with Biden at 42%, they just said that on MSNBC that OH, FL and NC are BELLWETHERS for the H but WI and PA are BELLWETHERS for S control

Alot of the H races MI 7, MN, 1 and FL 13 are MOE
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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2022, 01:54:59 PM »

Well, on MSNBC that Biden is against Crt packing so, that ends thats that, Rs would create so much havoc anyways if the Ds did ignite Crt packing, the best that females can hope for in the next Congress is codify Roe, but clearly this hurts Trumps reelection chances in 24 we don't need anymore right wing judge's he appointed 300 already at the Appeals level

But, planned Parenthood isn't gonna get rid of Birth Control, but Clarence Thomas is talking about banning gay marriage at Federal levels
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« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2022, 07:42:00 AM »
« Edited: June 26, 2022, 07:55:05 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

I keep seeing these protest in TV and energized that we are gonna have a Great Election cycle but then when you see these inflated prices then  you get pessimistic, we have enough seats in both chambers of Congress to hold our Majorities it all depends on Turnout are the young people gonna turnout in droves like the did in 2020 during Floyd

Thomas has his Crt that he wants now and there will absolutely be no check on him even if Rs take control of the H, but if D's get the Trifecta then he will be restraining because fear of Crt packing

We have IA, TX, NC, FL and OH that can go either way


Here's the media firestorm over Worldwide reaction to Thomas overturn of Roe


https://www.yahoo.com/news/world-shocked-outraged-saddened-overturning-185031296.html


I remember Bush W says I am a compassionate Conservative and best Kerry, but Edwards was Gaffe prone Wes Clark was a much better pick but no do overs and feel your pain and voters got Samuel Alito the same with Trump he didn't run as a Tea Party conservative he was part of the Reform Party movement before Palin endorsed him in 2016

But, they had leeway with female voters Ginsberg swing seat kept Roe at the Federal levels

Even before the insurrection Trump, the reason why Rs did well in 2020 he didn't appear as a Tea Partier, now with Insurrectionists like Johnson, Hawley and Cruz are forever tainted by Tea party, that's why Johnson is at 37% and will lose he isn't at 60%
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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2022, 11:21:45 AM »
« Edited: June 26, 2022, 11:24:52 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

I am very optimistic that we win in 2022 not just because abortion and insurrection the Rs haven't offered any alternatives to D agenda all they did was block and we are at our greatest income inequalities since the 1970s I have said this before, and Rs protect the rich some blue avatars think that the Rs are a normal political party no they don't that's why Ds represent Donkey 🐴 Jesus rode in to get crucified,  Jesus was against the Romans collecting taxes off the poor and Rs give tax cuts

There aren't any polls but that Roe was the wrong verdict after Rs won 2000/04/16 because Ginsberg kept Roe at Federal level and Alito Bush W appointee should of been Filibuster, Bush W compassionate conservative, my foot and he put Alito on
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2022, 05:18:07 PM »

Instead of impeaching these Justices which is a waste of time, the D's will never get 67 votes and Biden replace a Conservative judge focus on winning WI, PA, GA, NC, FL and OH which are within reach that gives us 55 votes and a Filibuster proof Senate the Election is in November anyways and set the stage for Crt packing I doubt if Jeffries and Schumer sends Biden a Crt packing bill he will veto the LGBTQ won't let him and anyways what's to stop as I said many times from getting rid of Voting Rights it has a ban on Gerrymandering and Thomas is clearly for gerrymandering

aOC is calling on impeachment but Pelosi hasn't called on that
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2022, 01:44:10 AM »
« Edited: June 27, 2022, 01:49:47 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

Alito said Birth Control isn't gonna be banned and Abortion is different because it takes a Human life and Tammy DUCKWORTH says that Crt packing and impeachment is certainly off the table but certainly this hurts Rs in OH, NC and FL Senate rand FL and TX Gov races races where Beasley and Demings and Ryan are kneck and kneck with their opponents certainly WI and PA are gone and the 303 blue wall, but Vance says he wants to ban Porn which is silly

Certainly it hurts Rs in OR Gov race and ME, it does energize youth Turnout that otherwise would have sat out the Election that's why now we can keep the H with an expanded map, youth were energized during Floyd and since then they have been unenthusiastic about Biden like they were in 2016 with Hillary

It's gonna be close to 65)60M not 80)75 M votes
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2022, 05:43:51 PM »
« Edited: June 27, 2022, 05:47:06 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

There was zero need for this ruling.  Dangerous and dumb.

Fortunately, this Supreme Court has also recently ruled that it's fine to ignore the Supreme Court.

U.S. Supreme Court rejects its own precedent in death row decision
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The Supreme Court held in June 2020 that Texas cannot execute Andrus because he had received unconstitutionally inadequate legal representation at his trial.
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But the Texas court ignored the Supreme Court’s ruling – essentially flouting the bedrock judicial principle that lower court judges must abide by the decisions of the highest court in the land, even when they disagree.
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But this time, the Supreme Court decided not to intervene, effectively acquiescing to a lower court’s insubordination.


Imagine how stupid things would get if they replaced Kagan or Sotomayor with a Federalist society wunderkind/handmaid.



That's why no matter how bleak things are now in spite of Biden being President, and him (with the party by extension) being tarred-and-feathered with the blame for the post-pandemic economic situation, I would still rather he be President than Trump right now just for the sake of there at least being three liberal Justices secured on the bench. I reject the notion that Democrats' need to lose to win. Trump may very well could have been given the opportunity to replace Breyer and especially Alito or Thomas sooner if he had another four years. Honestly, we're at a point in our politics where all that matters is the Supreme Court now. It has amassed far too much power and influence within our broken system.

This may very well be the last stand against an impending theocratic autocracy, but as rough and small of a resistance as is, it's necessary.

Lol it's been a 303 map since 2012 Obama was at 303 when the Election was called the Difference between now and then is OH and IA 24 EC votes replaced by AZ and GA 26 byEC voted 65/60M, we got in 2016/2018/20, but NH,  OH, KS and FL bucked the trends in 2018 and it's a Midterm not Prez races and it can certainly buck it now the blue wall is secure Ryan, Crist, Demings, and Laura Kelly and Sununu can all win in 22 this giving us wave insurance for a 218/217H, that's all we need is a little wave insurance for the H but FL 13 is going R but that's not gonna tell the story for EDay Crist is competetive with DeSantis and if Crist win Demings will and Ryan is running against Vance and leads 44/41 Vance wants to ban Porn
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