SCOTUS overturns Roe megathread (pg 53 - confirmed)

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It's no question that Dobbs had an impact in the Midterms, but that's not the only issue it's Rs tax cuts for the rich that's hurting them, blockade of Voting Rights and Insurrection look at the IA and OH polls after all the polls showed D's losing IA the polls came out today showing D's competetive and Vance continues to lose in OH, thats why Nan W whom is endorsed by Brown eventhough she is losing us showing confidence in winning due to Ryan

[Person Man]

This bitch needs his ass kicked.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/matt-gaetz-women-who-look-like-a-thumb-shouldnt-gripe-about-abortion-rights/ar-AAZUagX?li=BBnb7Kz

[7,052,770]

This bitch needs his ass kicked.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/matt-gaetz-women-who-look-like-a-thumb-shouldnt-gripe-about-abortion-rights/ar-AAZUagX?li=BBnb7Kz

Funny, because my uncle used to joke "have you ever noticed that the women who are the most against abortion are the ones who are never going to need one??" I guess people can see what they want to see.

[Person Man]

This bitch needs his ass kicked.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/matt-gaetz-women-who-look-like-a-thumb-shouldnt-gripe-about-abortion-rights/ar-AAZUagX?li=BBnb7Kz

Funny, because my uncle used to joke "have you ever noticed that the women who are the most against abortion are the ones who are never going to need one??" I guess people can see what they want to see.

I mean, people against abortion could be more attractive because they tend to be privileged while some might be ugly or unhealthy and using things like abortion bans to make them more attractive in a world where the risks on casual sex or “playing the field” is too high. That was how a lot of these secular incels were able to get on the religious right train.

[Ferguson97]

Conservatives: "why do liberals think we hate women?"

Also conservatives:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1550954716913360896

[Not Me, Us]

If President Biden (or any future President) were to pull an Andrew Jackson on this court (and render it impotent forever), I doubt there will be much of a backlash.

There's no reason not to. SCOTUS does not have the authority to determine what's constitutional or not other than the authority they give themselves. They can't enforce any of their rulings, while Biden has the National Guard which he can nationalize at will. Station the Guards at abortion clinics in red states like desegregated schools in the Jim Crow South to protect women getting abortions. There would be no recourse other than impeachment and removal which obviously wouldn't happen in a divided Senate, so he'd get off scot free.

[7,052,770]

If President Biden (or any future President) were to pull an Andrew Jackson on this court (and render it impotent forever), I doubt there will be much of a backlash.

There's no reason not to. SCOTUS does not have the authority to determine what's constitutional or not other than the authority they give themselves. They can't enforce any of their rulings, while Biden has the National Guard which he can nationalize at will. Station the Guards at abortion clinics in red states like desegregated schools in the Jim Crow South to protect women getting abortions. There would be no recourse other than impeachment and removal which obviously wouldn't happen in a divided Senate, so he'd get off scot free.

What abortion clinics? It's too late in Mississippi, probably other states soon or already.

[Not Me, Us]

If President Biden (or any future President) were to pull an Andrew Jackson on this court (and render it impotent forever), I doubt there will be much of a backlash.

There's no reason not to. SCOTUS does not have the authority to determine what's constitutional or not other than the authority they give themselves. They can't enforce any of their rulings, while Biden has the National Guard which he can nationalize at will. Station the Guards at abortion clinics in red states like desegregated schools in the Jim Crow South to protect women getting abortions. There would be no recourse other than impeachment and removal which obviously wouldn't happen in a divided Senate, so he'd get off scot free.

What abortion clinics? It's too late in Mississippi, probably other states soon or already.

At this point it would be nothing but damage mitigation, but it would certainly be better than nothing. It will clearly never happen anyway, mostly just wishful thinking on my part.

[Skill and Chance]

If President Biden (or any future President) were to pull an Andrew Jackson on this court (and render it impotent forever), I doubt there will be much of a backlash.

There's no reason not to. SCOTUS does not have the authority to determine what's constitutional or not other than the authority they give themselves. They can't enforce any of their rulings, while Biden has the National Guard which he can nationalize at will. Station the Guards at abortion clinics in red states like desegregated schools in the Jim Crow South to protect women getting abortions. There would be no recourse other than impeachment and removal which obviously wouldn't happen in a divided Senate, so he'd get off scot free.

1. An activist prosecutor in a red state would  probably find a way to prosecute Biden under state law after he leaves office. 
2. If he does this successfully, the next Republican president would send the National Guard to raid and shut down blue state abortion clinics and ignore any contrary court rulings.  Ignoring the courts is a one-way street toward a dictatorship. 

[Person Man]

If President Biden (or any future President) were to pull an Andrew Jackson on this court (and render it impotent forever), I doubt there will be much of a backlash.

There's no reason not to. SCOTUS does not have the authority to determine what's constitutional or not other than the authority they give themselves. They can't enforce any of their rulings, while Biden has the National Guard which he can nationalize at will. Station the Guards at abortion clinics in red states like desegregated schools in the Jim Crow South to protect women getting abortions. There would be no recourse other than impeachment and removal which obviously wouldn't happen in a divided Senate, so he'd get off scot free.

1. An activist prosecutor in a red state would  probably find a way to prosecute Biden under state law after he leaves office. 
2. If he does this successfully, the next Republican president would send the National Guard to raid and shut down blue state abortion clinics and ignore any contrary court rulings.  Ignoring the courts is a one-way street toward a dictatorship. 

The path we are on is not sustainable. I agree.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Conservatives: "why do liberals think we hate women?"

Also conservatives:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1550954716913360896

Gaetz likes his women much younger, no surprise here.

And who is he referring to in the first video?

[Hermit For Peace]

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/25/1113508044/michigan-medical-students-walk-out-on-an-anti-abortion-keynote-speaker

Michigan medical students walk out on an anti-abortion keynote speaker

On Sunday night at the University of Michigan Medical School's annual white coat ceremony, incoming medical students recited oaths, received their white coats – then dozens of them walked out.

At issue was the keynote speaker: Dr. Kristin Collier, a Michigan faculty member and primary care physician who has spoken publicly about her Christian beliefs and anti-abortion views.

In an interview with NPR, Scorpio, who attended the ceremony to support a friend in the incoming medical student class, estimated that roughly 70 of the 170 incoming students walked out, followed by some friends and family "in solidarity."

In total, he guessed, 35 to 40% of the audience took part in the walkout.

"The overall message that the students wanted to push was that reproductive rights, abortion, is health care," Scorpio said. "Reproductive rights for anyone who is able to give birth are incredibly important and should be something that's allowed to everyone in the country."

[Hermit For Peace]

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/07/25/1112938261/the-role-of-independent-funds-to-help-people-access-abortion-is-growing

The Role of Abortion Funds

Abortion funds raise and distribute money to people who need help paying for abortions, including procedure and travel costs. In 2020, funds across the country helped nearly 45,000 people pay for abortions.

In the first three weeks after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, the National Network of Abortion Funds raised nearly $11 million for local funds, more than all abortion funds in the network distributed in 2020.

But demand is also rising, said Floren of the South Dakota fund. She said she got nearly as many calls in the first week of July as she did in all of April, including several from people outside of South Dakota desperate to find anyone who could help.

[Hermit For Peace]

Oh man, here's a horror story about one woman's journey through hell because of the Texas abortion restrictions and laws on the books. What did the radical right moralists unleash on humanity? I've read that many women are getting their tubes tied so they don't have to deal with possible hell on earth.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/07/26/1111280165/because-of-texas-abortion-law-her-wanted-pregnancy-became-a-medical-nightmare

[Hermit For Peace]

And here's a thought to put out there. What if women stopped having sex and having babies? What if women went on a protest? Where would our society be then? How would men like that?

That's how valuable women are to making this country great. And yet, look at what is happening to them on a physical level. We are treating our valuable female citizens who gave life to everyone reading this, as criminals and stupid morons who can't manage their own health and bodies. What a big cringe.

[Progressive Pessimist]

And here's a thought to put out there. What if women stopped having sex and having babies? What if women went on a protest? Where would our society be then? How would men like that?

That's how valuable women are to making this country great. And yet, look at what is happening to them on a physical level. We are treating our valuable female citizens who gave life to everyone reading this, as criminals and stupid morons who can't manage their own health and bodies. What a big cringe.

Interesting, a Lysistrata situation. That would require a pretty big organized effort though.

[Person Man]

And here's a thought to put out there. What if women stopped having sex and having babies? What if women went on a protest? Where would our society be then? How would men like that?

That's how valuable women are to making this country great. And yet, look at what is happening to them on a physical level. We are treating our valuable female citizens who gave life to everyone reading this, as criminals and stupid morons who can't manage their own health and bodies. What a big cringe.

Like I’ve been saying, if enough women just left red states, there would be serious demographic consequences for red states.

[7,052,770]

And here's a thought to put out there. What if women stopped having sex and having babies? What if women went on a protest? Where would our society be then? How would men like that?

That's how valuable women are to making this country great. And yet, look at what is happening to them on a physical level. We are treating our valuable female citizens who gave life to everyone reading this, as criminals and stupid morons who can't manage their own health and bodies. What a big cringe.

Interesting, a Lysistrata situation. That would require a pretty big organized effort though.

The only women who would have any reason to participate would be an activist pro-choice woman married to a man (or woman I guess) who opposed legal abortion, and even then probably only in states where abortion is now illegal. That's a pretty small percentage of marriages right there, and even if they all did it, how many of those affected men would have the power to change anything?

[Skill and Chance]

And here's a thought to put out there. What if women stopped having sex and having babies? What if women went on a protest? Where would our society be then? How would men like that?

That's how valuable women are to making this country great. And yet, look at what is happening to them on a physical level. We are treating our valuable female citizens who gave life to everyone reading this, as criminals and stupid morons who can't manage their own health and bodies. What a big cringe.

Interesting, a Lysistrata situation. That would require a pretty big organized effort though.

To a significant degree, isn't that what many social conservatives would want to happen?

[Person Man]

And here's a thought to put out there. What if women stopped having sex and having babies? What if women went on a protest? Where would our society be then? How would men like that?

That's how valuable women are to making this country great. And yet, look at what is happening to them on a physical level. We are treating our valuable female citizens who gave life to everyone reading this, as criminals and stupid morons who can't manage their own health and bodies. What a big cringe.

Interesting, a Lysistrata situation. That would require a pretty big organized effort though.

To a significant degree, isn't that what many social conservatives would want to happen?

Some of them. But how many of these pro-life men are degenerates? Two of the five men responsible for Roe being overturned are known perverts.

[Progressive Pessimist]

And here's a thought to put out there. What if women stopped having sex and having babies? What if women went on a protest? Where would our society be then? How would men like that?

That's how valuable women are to making this country great. And yet, look at what is happening to them on a physical level. We are treating our valuable female citizens who gave life to everyone reading this, as criminals and stupid morons who can't manage their own health and bodies. What a big cringe.

Interesting, a Lysistrata situation. That would require a pretty big organized effort though.

To a significant degree, isn't that what many social conservatives would want to happen?

Some of them. But how many of these pro-life men are degenerates? Two of the five men responsible for Roe being overturned are known perverts.

*Cough* Scott DesJarlais, Matt Gaetz, Tim Murphy *cough*

[darklordoftech]

Remember the days when people thought that the Religious Right was just a bunch of useful idiots for the real Republican agenda (laissez faire capitalism)?

[OSR stands with Israel]

Remember the days when people thought that the Religious Right was just a bunch of useful idiots for the real Republican agenda (laissez faire capitalism)?

Roe was literally one vote away from being overturned in 1992 and it would have been overturned if not for the Democrats taking control of the senate in 1986. Keep in mind while 8 of the 9 justices in 1992 were appointed by Republican Presidents, only 2 of of the 9 were confirmed by a Republican senate. A Democratic Senate also rejected 3 nominations in this time period and that very likely saved Roe in 1992.

Since 1992 5 justices were nominated by a Republican President but all 5 were confirmed by a Republican Senate and that is why Roe was overturned.

[Person Man]

Remember the days when people thought that the Religious Right was just a bunch of useful idiots for the real Republican agenda (laissez faire capitalism)?

Roe was literally one vote away from being overturned in 1992 and it would have been overturned if not for the Democrats taking control of the senate in 1986. Keep in mind while 8 of the 9 justices in 1992 were appointed by Republican Presidents, only 2 of of the 9 were confirmed by a Republican senate. A Democratic Senate also rejected 3 nominations in this time period and that very likely saved Roe in 1992.

Since 1992 5 justices were nominated by a Republican President but all 5 were confirmed by a Republican Senate and that is why Roe was overturned.

I mean, I agree with you that it took way longer than it should had if it were a priority but it was literally the only major accomplishment that Trump had besides a tax law which is being replaced with other sources of revenue.

[jojoju1998]

Remember the days when people thought that the Religious Right was just a bunch of useful idiots for the real Republican agenda (laissez faire capitalism)?

Well in many ways; the two are combined. The Whole new deal/great society ethos is at stake, as I have said before.