SCOTUS overturns Roe megathread (pg 53 - confirmed)
Person Man:
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on August 15, 2022, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: Actual Necromancer Joe Manchin on August 14, 2022, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on August 13, 2022, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on August 13, 2022, 03:52:49 PM
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This will hopefully drive up Dane County turnout.
Enough to save Evers, sure, but he's still going to have this legislature to deal with because it's about as gerrymandered as apartheid South Africa.
It's still better than Michels becoming a rubber stamp for the legislature.
Who themselves are just a rubber stamp of the local religious establishment and dealership owners.
Person Man:
Quote from: Donerail on August 15, 2022, 08:47:18 PM
Quote from: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on August 15, 2022, 01:41:08 PM
Quote from: wesmoorenerd on August 15, 2022, 01:31:35 PM
the feds unironically need to step in with regards to WI gerrymandering. it's bad enough that the state is basically no longer a functional democracy.
Sadly, the Supreme Court has decided (for some reason) that they can’t decide (or just don’t feel like deciding) what a “republican form of government” is.
That is an opportunity, not an obstacle. It's up to Congress (Democrat) or the executive (Democrat) to determine what a "republican form of government" is, and the Court (Republican) lacks the power to review their definitions.
Didn’t Huckabee talk about sending the National Guard in to overthrow liberal state governments?
World politics is up Schmitt creek:
Quote from: Donerail on August 15, 2022, 08:47:18 PM
Quote from: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on August 15, 2022, 01:41:08 PM
Quote from: wesmoorenerd on August 15, 2022, 01:31:35 PM
the feds unironically need to step in with regards to WI gerrymandering. it's bad enough that the state is basically no longer a functional democracy.
Sadly, the Supreme Court has decided (for some reason) that they can’t decide (or just don’t feel like deciding) what a “republican form of government” is.
That is an opportunity, not an obstacle. It's up to Congress (Democrat) or the executive (Democrat) to determine what a "republican form of government" is, and the Court (Republican) lacks the power to review their definitions.
The Court "lacks" that power now. We'll see how long it takes for them to suddenly discover otherwise once the Youth Pastor Dans and Honda Dealer Hals of WOW and Oshkosh can't get 64% of seats in the legislature on 45% of the vote any longer.
Skill and Chance:
Quote from: Actual Necromancer Joe Manchin on August 15, 2022, 11:47:55 PM
Quote from: Donerail on August 15, 2022, 08:47:18 PM
Quote from: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on August 15, 2022, 01:41:08 PM
Quote from: wesmoorenerd on August 15, 2022, 01:31:35 PM
the feds unironically need to step in with regards to WI gerrymandering. it's bad enough that the state is basically no longer a functional democracy.
Sadly, the Supreme Court has decided (for some reason) that they can’t decide (or just don’t feel like deciding) what a “republican form of government” is.
That is an opportunity, not an obstacle. It's up to Congress (Democrat) or the executive (Democrat) to determine what a "republican form of government" is, and the Court (Republican) lacks the power to review their definitions.
The Court "lacks" that power now. We'll see how long it takes for them to suddenly discover otherwise once the Youth Pastor Dans and Honda Dealer Hals of WOW and Oshkosh can't get 64% of seats in the legislature on 45% of the vote any longer.
This is an interesting point. With the current membership of SCOTUS, if they did decide to intervene under the republican form of government clause it would more likely be "republican form of government = legislature must have the final say on as many issues as possible." For example, allowing ballot initiatives to change the laws against the wishes of the elected representatives could easily be ruled to not be "republican" in nature by a court motivated enough to limit the impact of initiatives.
Skill and Chance:
Quote from: Person Man on August 15, 2022, 08:07:47 PM
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on August 15, 2022, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: Actual Necromancer Joe Manchin on August 14, 2022, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on August 13, 2022, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on August 13, 2022, 03:52:49 PM
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This will hopefully drive up Dane County turnout.
Enough to save Evers, sure, but he's still going to have this legislature to deal with because it's about as gerrymandered as apartheid South Africa.
It's still better than Michels becoming a rubber stamp for the legislature.
Who themselves are just a rubber stamp of the local religious establishment and dealership owners.
IDK though at least their state senate districts have to have equal population. And their governor will have to win the most votes statewide. And their attorney general will be elected independently and so can confidently act independently of their governor. In half the states (sadly not including Wisconsin), the voters can have the final say by referendum. State government is arguably more democratic than the federal government, even with gerrymandering (and there's still plenty of it in the US House). If your #1 concern is democracy, you should probably want everything other than war/foreign relations to be handled at the state level.
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