WV-SEN 2024: Manchin out, Justice for All

[Mr. Smith]

Justice says he is probably running

https://wvmetronews.com/2023/01/13/justice-probably-running-for-senate/

Justice is a scoundrel who doesn’t pay his bills. He’s literally Mr. Porter from its a wonderful life. I was going to say he’d been an awful candidate, but he has somehow conned the WV voters into liking him so idk

He's literally the best red-state Republican governor of note. [Even "moderate" Kemp]

Endorsed, even against Manchin.

[Tekken_Guy]

Hot take: With Justice running, there’s a serious chance Manchin does worse than Blanche and he could possibly top Wesley Jones’ 1932 defeat if he stays in, and I think Manchin knows that. I expect he retires if/when Justice makes it official.

What's up with all these septuagenarians running to become freshmen senators?

In this case, I suspect it’s a consequence of the rivalry Manchin+Justice developed shortly after Justice’s party switch.

What happens to Mooney if Justice gets in?

[MT Treasurer]

This race wouldn’t be particularly close with Justice, but the idea that Republicans need Justice in order for this not to be close or particularly competitive is obviously ludicrous. Daines has already indicated that Manchin (along with Brown and Tester) is going to be nuked throughout 2023 with negative ads defining him before he can reinvent himself just in time for the election. The key to winning this race is driving down Manchin's favorables among Rs/Is, and if they manage to do that, any Republican will be favored in what will be a R+40 state.

Honestly not sure which red state Democrat is most overrated at this point.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

This race wouldn’t be particularly close with Justice, but the idea that Republicans need Justice in order for this not to be close or particularly competitive is obviously ludicrous. Daines has already indicated that Manchin (along with Brown and Tester) is going to be nuked throughout 2023 with negative ads defining him before he can reinvent himself just in time for the election. The key to winning this race is driving down Manchin's favorables among Rs/Is, and if they manage to do that, any Republican will be favored in what will be a R+40 state.

Honestly not sure which red state Democrat is most overrated at this point.

LoL there are zero Polls from any state until there are polls the incumbent is fav but Biden Documents scandal is gonna affect the red states until he is cleared

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

I really cannot fathom why Justice is popular, I live in an area where he owns hundreds of acres of farmland and when you mention his name the first thing you hear “oh Justice, he never pays his bills.” That’s like basic level assholery so I wouldn’t be shocked if he ends up being a scandal machine.

[S019]

This race wouldn’t be particularly close with Justice, but the idea that Republicans need Justice in order for this not to be close or particularly competitive is obviously ludicrous. Daines has already indicated that Manchin (along with Brown and Tester) is going to be nuked throughout 2023 with negative ads defining him before he can reinvent himself just in time for the election. The key to winning this race is driving down Manchin's favorables among Rs/Is, and if they manage to do that, any Republican will be favored in what will be a R+40 state.

Honestly not sure which red state Democrat is most overrated at this point.

I agree that all three are pretty overrated and I think Democrats are setting ourselves up for disappointment if we think we have a reasonable chance of holding the Senate next year. I think Brown is the most overrated honestly since everyone seems to think he's in a Tossup race which is such a dumb idea given how well Vance did against a candidate almost as good as Brown, and the fact that the Republican nominee is very likely going to be a far better candidate than Vance.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

LoL there are no polls for any office but since the Documents scandals it has made D's on these Fed red state races alot tougher, like now Beshear might lose but you don't have to win the PVI by 10 pts in order to won red states Obama won 52/46 not by 10 in 2008/12 no one wins by 10

But the only poll we had a as Bob Casey down by 5 before the Document gate and I know Center Street Pack inflated both Fetterman and Kelly numbers 55/33 and Ryan 48/39 and Crist and Deming's only down 50/48 and they were down in most polls even Echelon 48/41, the RS were already at 50% in FL so IAN didn't change that much the race except they won by 60/40%

Gas prices are slowly rising again it's almost 4 that's why You Gov after Documents have Biden not at 50/47 but at 44/55 what NBC had Biden at on Eday 22 Biden after Documents is back to Eday poll nbers 44/55 in You Gov and Users say Documents don't matter yes it does


It was supposed to go down 2.25 by February no it hasn't they lied, gas prices I worked at airport gas was 2.25 and 1.50 in 2008/12 Obama years that's why he was reelected

[S019]

https://twitter.com/JimJusticeWV/status/1615076429355515926?cxt=HHwWrIC8jZPd8-ks...

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Am I the only one who thinks Justice could lose to Mooney? He isn't ultra-conservative and donated to Obama.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

There are no polls

[Liminal Trans Girl]

Cocaine Mitch will be so distracted by Mooney that he won't notice the real America First candidate coming in

[Spectator]

This race wouldn’t be particularly close with Justice, but the idea that Republicans need Justice in order for this not to be close or particularly competitive is obviously ludicrous. Daines has already indicated that Manchin (along with Brown and Tester) is going to be nuked throughout 2023 with negative ads defining him before he can reinvent himself just in time for the election. The key to winning this race is driving down Manchin's favorables among Rs/Is, and if they manage to do that, any Republican will be favored in what will be a R+40 state.

Honestly not sure which red state Democrat is most overrated at this point.

Yes, my take is that a Democrat is more likely to beat Ted Cruz than that any of the three red state Dems win again.

[Ferguson97]

Honestly not sure which red state Democrat is most overrated at this point.

I agree that all three are pretty overrated and I think Democrats are setting ourselves up for disappointment if we think we have a reasonable chance of holding the Senate next year.

I thought that 2022 would have taught us to avoid making these sorts of extremely confident predictions, but alas...

[S019]

Honestly not sure which red state Democrat is most overrated at this point.

I agree that all three are pretty overrated and I think Democrats are setting ourselves up for disappointment if we think we have a reasonable chance of holding the Senate next year.

I thought that 2022 would have taught us to avoid making these sorts of extremely confident predictions, but alas...

It is not extremely confident to say that “I think Democrats have a pretty uphill battle to hold the Senate” next year. All of the evidence points that way, also after 2016+2020, I thought that people would give up on the Bloomerism.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

This race wouldn’t be particularly close with Justice, but the idea that Republicans need Justice in order for this not to be close or particularly competitive is obviously ludicrous. Daines has already indicated that Manchin (along with Brown and Tester) is going to be nuked throughout 2023 with negative ads defining him before he can reinvent himself just in time for the election. The key to winning this race is driving down Manchin's favorables among Rs/Is, and if they manage to do that, any Republican will be favored in what will be a R+40 state.

Honestly not sure which red state Democrat is most overrated at this point.

Yes, my take is that a Democrat is more likely to beat Ted Cruz than that any of the three red state Dems win again.

LoL Beshear is winning in red state KY lol that's wrong, users, especially blue avatarscontinue to ignore the MXDX poll showing Beshear up by 9 and say Manchin, Brown and Tester are definitely losing and there isn't a single 24 polls that's why S019 R nut map was wrong he makes a Ratings map it's called a user prediction I was bold to predict Ryan, Bullock wins but our maps aren't ratings map if you go by ratings Cook and Sabato predicted KS Gov to go R it didn't

Why do you think user 2016 is on the 24 board not the Congressional board his candidate Cameron is losing by 9 to Beshear, we are just giving our opinions users are just as wrong about KS and KY Gov as I was on OH, NC Sen in 22

[BenjiG98]

https://twitter.com/JimJusticeWV/status/1620169467543310341

He pinned this tweet. Justice is running.

[GALeftist]

https://twitter.com/JimJusticeWV/status/1620169467543310341

He pinned this tweet. Justice is running.

Good. Justice is probably the least conservative possible candidate who can still win in today’s Wst Virginia.

[Tekken_Guy]

https://twitter.com/JimJusticeWV/status/1620169467543310341

He pinned this tweet. Justice is running.

When will he officially announce?

[BenjiG98]

https://twitter.com/JimJusticeWV/status/1620169467543310341
He pinned this tweet. Justice is running.

When will he officially announce?

Within 30 days
https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1620514361264558080

[SnowLabrador]

Is it just me, or does it seem like the Senate races this cycle are starting much earlier than usual?

[ProgressiveModerate]

Is it just me, or does it seem like the Senate races this cycle are starting much earlier than usual?

This one def, and AZ's unique situation has already given it a lot of attention. There's quite a few key races that still haven't gotten much media though.

[ProgressiveModerate]

Consider it's WV, we could have much much worse than a Capito-Justice delegation.

[Mr. Smith]

Is it just me, or does it seem like the Senate races this cycle are starting much earlier than usual?

It's not you. Not this time.

[Not Me, Us]

Why would you want to be a first term Senator as a 73 year old? I'm really not against it, he'd clear the GOP field and as other have said would be the least bad Republican possible, it's just weird to me. When I'm 73 I'd wanna be chilling on a beach somewhere with a pina colada and a girl who's 40 years younger than me, not in C*ngress.

[2016]

Yeah,
At this Point I think Justice will run to unseat Manchin and maybe even coax Manchin into an early Retirement.