1988: Bob Dole vs. Bill Clinton
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Sir Mohamed
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« on: April 07, 2022, 09:18:18 AM »

If the actual 1996 match-up occurred 8 years earlier, how do you think it ends? AR Gov. Bill Clinton is the Dem nominee and Sen. Bob Dole the GOP candidate, winning the nomination over VP HW Bush.
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2022, 03:36:02 PM »

Hard to say, because Dole was pretty uninspiring and not as obvious a continuation of the popular Reagan Revolution as Bush, but Clinton would be an even younger "Boy Governor" up against a stronger Democrat establishment and in much better times for the Republicans. I think Reagan's popularity and Clinton's damning foreign policy inexperience in a Cold War world would carry Dole through.


Senator Bob Dole (R-KS) / Congressman Jack Kemp (R-NY) ✓
Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Senator Al Gore (D-TN)
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2022, 04:40:02 PM »

Clinton would have curb stomped Dole even harder than he did in 1996. He’d been a governor for nearly a decade and had no less foreign policy experience than Dukakis (the idea that’s why he lost is bizarre) but did have a TON more charisma than Dukakis or Dole. The idea that the “Democrat establishment” (LMFAO) would stop Clinton from winning is even more bizarre.

You’d think 2016 would have decisively disproven all the childish fantasies and conspiracy theories among certain leftists about how party “establishments” control every step of an election (not to mention that money is everything in elections), but then again since so much of leftist philosophy is itself a childish fantasy with no basis in reality, guess it’s not too surprising they persist in clinging to them anyway.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2022, 03:36:53 AM »

Clinton would have curb stomped Dole even harder than he did in 1996. He’d been a governor for nearly a decade and had no less foreign policy experience than Dukakis (the idea that’s why he lost is bizarre) but did have a TON more charisma than Dukakis or Dole. The idea that the “Democrat establishment” (LMFAO) would stop Clinton from winning is even more bizarre.

You’d think 2016 would have decisively disproven all the childish fantasies and conspiracy theories among certain leftists about how party “establishments” control every step of an election (not to mention that money is everything in elections), but then again since so much of leftist philosophy is itself a childish fantasy with no basis in reality, guess it’s not too surprising they persist in clinging to them anyway.

Trump could have been stopped by the GOP 'establishment' (yes, it is a crude and simplistic term) if 1. it had been half-competent and 2. it was determined enough to stop Trump. Terry Branstad, IIRC, gave a half endorsement of Trump before the Iowa Caucus (which Trump actually lost).

Such rhetoric about 'establishments' is hardly confined to 'leftist philosophy' either. In fact every part of the political spectrum has used it at some point or another.
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