2016: Hillary Clinton vs. Mitt Romney (Trump lost in 2012)

[President Johnson]

How do you see the 2016 election turn out with Romney and Trump switched? Say Trump was the Republican nominee in 2012, losing to Barack Obama. Four years later, Republicans revert back to nominating an establishment candidate, in this case Mitt Romney. Does he win against Hillary?

[Chips]

It's possible but it would depend on a few things. Namely if Trump would endorse him or not.

[BigVic]

Romney will win and will win easily Third time is the charm. Switching from MA to UT will see him perform well in the states W Bush won and win the Midwest.

[Alben Barkley]

Hillary holds on to the freiwal and wins.

[Adjective-Statement]

Fmr. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) ✓
Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Senator Rob Portman (R-OH)

The populists here would continue developing without Trump, and without the cult of personality he developed as president in the more turbulent late 2010s, he would be more easily forgotten. This would actually kind of be a problem for Romney in that a simple Trump endorsement wouldn't be enough to shore up the grassroots. He could do a decent job walking the tightrope between GOP factions and facing the weakened Democrats but it wouldn't be enough. Trump IOTL was just the right candidate at just the right time.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Romney/Walker 283
Clinton/Kaine 255

[Sir Mohamed]

Turnout probably hits a low. HRC is probably somewhat favored, because I fail to see which states Romney can flip other than NH of the 278 freiwall. I think it would be very close either way.



✓ Former SoS Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA): 274 EVs.; 49.4%
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-UT)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL): 264 EVs.; 47.9%

[America needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]