Quebec 2022 Election
Hatman 🍁:
Quote from: Poirot on November 12, 2022, 10:17:46 PM
Bloc Montreal won a division in Saint-Laurent.
This is very clearly a transcription error. The Liberals, who won every other poll in the riding "won" just 2% in that one poll, while BM got 0-2% in the surrounding polls.
Poirot:
Quote from: Hatman 🍁 on November 14, 2022, 01:45:29 PM
Quote from: Poirot on November 12, 2022, 10:17:46 PM
Bloc Montreal won a division in Saint-Laurent.
This is very clearly a transcription error. The Liberals, who won every other poll in the riding "won" just 2% in that one poll, while BM got 0-2% in the surrounding polls.
There was a request to investigate the counting of the vote in that poll in Saint-Laurent considering the unusual official result. A journalist has found more people who claim they voted PLQ in that section than the result. Elections Quebec has refused to investigate.
I don't know if it could be a voluntary move by a Bloc Montreal partisan or just a mistake of writing numbers on different lines.
adma:
Probably akin to those occasional tabulation errors in federal results which are noted in footnote form with the proviso that they do not affect the final outcome (i.e. who wins/loses in whichever particular riding, etc)
MaxQue:
https://www.electionsquebec.qc.ca/en/electoral-maps/review-of-quebecs-electoral-map/
New electoral map proposal for Quebec.
Only 50 of the 125 seats are changed, two abolished ridings and two new ones.
Gaspésie/Bas-St-Laurent: Gaspé is split in two. Bonaventure takes most of it and is renamed Gaspé-Bonaventure, the rest goes in Matane-Matapédia, who shred its west to Rimouski.
Quebec City: Vanier-Les Rivières is too big, it loses a part to La Peltrie, who loses its rural west hinterland to Portneuf.
Central Quebec/Eastern Townships. It's a mess. St-François loses everything that's north of Sherbrooke, it goes to Richmond, who loses most of its rural areas and becomes a seat made of Richmond itself and various suburbs west and north of Sherbrooke. Both Brome-Missisquoi and Orford are losing some towns in their north because of being overpopulated (that's from Highway 10). Granby takes some of it, but most goes into Daniel-Johnson, a renamed Jonhson which totally leaves the Drummondville area, but adds towns from Brome-Missisquoi and Orford, the west of Richmond and the east hinterland of St-Hyacinthe. The Drummondville area leftover takes some amalgamated suburbs of Drummondville from Drummond-Bois-Francs to become a new riding, called Marie-Lacoste-Gérin-Lajoie, a suffragette (terrible name, but short of Drummond West or Drummond Outer, I don't see a name). To compensate the loss, Drummond-Bois-Francs takes the rural east of Richmond (around the town of Val-des-Sources, formerly known as Asbestos).
Montréal: A seat is lost, it's technically Anjou-Louis-Riel, but the PQ leader district is torn apart too. Camille-Laurin is now made of the east of Camille-Laurin and the Anjou part of Anjou-Louis-Riel (which has not voted for the PQ since 1994). The west of Camille-Laurin goes into Hochelaga-Maisonneuve, who loses the parts in the west that are in other boroughs (which are actually the weakest parts of the seats for QS) to Sainte-Marie-Saint-Jacques. The Louis-Riel parts are added to the east of Rosemont, which is renamed Rosemont-Louis-Riel (which looks like a QS/CAQ/PQ/PLQ marginal). Viau, being the least populated riding on the island, takes the east of Laurier-Dorion and a small part of Gouin (which I assume is totally destroying the small Liberal majority left there). Finally, Gouin and Laurier-Dorion are sh**tfed to a West/East split instead of North/South and Gouin taking the West of Rosemont (nicely spreading QS strongest neighbourhoods around).
Lanaudière: Repentigny loses its "rural" part and takes Charlemagne (hometown of Céline Dion) from L'Assomption instead. L'Assomption takes the rural parts of Repentigny and one town from Berthier to compensate.
Laurentides: Underpopulated Les Plaines takes the north of Terrebonne and underpopulated Masson takes the east of Terrebonne, who compensates by taking Bois-des-Fillions from Blainville. Also, a new riding called Bellefeuille is created, from the west of the city and riding of St-Jérôme, towns from Prévost and Argenteuil and a part of Mirabel. Argenteuil compensate by taking the villages south from the highway from Labelle (probably a better fit there).
Laval: Chomedey is growing way too quickly due to new builds, they move an area under development to Laval-des-Rapides to give some leeway and Laval-des-Rapides give some to Mille-Îles, so it doesn't develop the same problem.
Montérégie: Richelieu takes the town of Contrecoeur (where Montreal wants to build its new harbour) from Verchères. St-Hyacinthe (who lost parts to Daniel-Johnson takes parts of overpopulated Borduas to compensate. Underpopulated Sanguinet takes a small town from Huntington. Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu now requires to be split, so it loses its more rural neighbourhoods in the west of town to Huntington. Vaudreuil is now overquota, so the town of Vaudreuil itself is splitted and added to Soulanges. That puts Soulanges overquota, so it loses its parts along the St. Lawrence to Beauharnois (which is now a cross-St. Lawrence riding based around Valleyfield; that new Soulanges probably worries the CAQ, losing the most CAQ part of Soulanges and adding Liberal areas). All of the Beauharnois riding on the South Shore, but the eponymous town is transfered to Huntington (which is now pretty mcuh everything rural south of the St. Lawrence and west of the Richelieu River.
Outaouais: Everything over quota, but there is still not the population for 6 ridings. Papineau loses some of its parts in the city of Gatineau to Chapleau and Gatineau (a riding covering the Gatineau valley, not the city) loses some part of the city of Gatineau to Hull (this needs to be reviewed, as that part is not contiguous by road with the rest of the riding, the Gatineau River having no bridges in that area.
Finally, in Saguenay, that wierd saliant of Chicoutimi into Dubuc (a leftover of former pre-2002 municipal limits) is being cut off.
Abitibi, Beauce, Côte-Nord, Northern Quebec and Mauricie are left unchanged.
Hatman 🍁:
The Quebec tradition of naming ridings after people continues...
Yeah, I hope they reconsider moving that random neighbourhood in Gatineau to Hull. I wonder if it would work to move some of Aylmer into Hull, and then move Chelsea into Pontiac to compensate? I feel like Chelsea would be a better fit for Pontiac, due to it being an Anglophone influenced riding (Chelsea has a large Anglo population).
ETA: Actually, this works pretty well. You don't even need to add any of Aylmer to Hull. I'm not sure how many electors get transferred (the redistribution is based on electors, not population), but the population transfer works out well.
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