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« on: March 30, 2022, 02:45:34 PM »

I'd be willing to tentatively sign up, but I can't promise I'll be able to play for the entire game. How long do you anticipate it to last, and how long would you estimate I'd have to spend on it? Depending on the answers to those two questions, I'd likely be willing to sign up as Roy Cooper.
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2022, 02:48:31 PM »

Also, do we check with you for endorsements, or can we just posts any unclaimed endorsement with the exception of those you mention we can't? (Like, for instance, if as Roy Cooper, I wanted - just an example - Mark Kelly's endorsement, and no one else had claimed it, would I need to check with you first about endorsing, or could I just go ahead and announce that Kelly had endorsed me?)
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2022, 11:45:18 AM »

I'd be willing to tentatively sign up, but I can't promise I'll be able to play for the entire game. How long do you anticipate it to last, and how long would you estimate I'd have to spend on it? Depending on the answers to those two questions, I'd likely be willing to sign up as Roy Cooper.

How long the game will last probably will depend on how active the players are.

I wouldn't anticipate having to spend more than a couple of hours per turn on the game, unless you are being very through.

Okay then let's sign me up for Roy Cooper.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2022, 01:43:05 AM »

Are the other Democratic candidates planning on getting their debate answers in before the deadline? Or am I going to win by virtue of being the only attendee? I already had Cooper answer each of his debate questions.
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2022, 01:54:56 AM »

Are the other Democratic candidates planning on getting their debate answers in before the deadline? Or am I going to win by virtue of being the only attendee? I already had Cooper answer each of his debate questions.

The turn will likely be extended, as I've only received one request for endorsements from any Republican candidate as well.

Shame. Can I post my campaign schedule for the next round before it begins, though? (I'd need to know the dates, but once I do, it'd be good if I could get my campaign schedule out.)
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2022, 08:22:13 PM »

will likely need a short extension (less than 24 hours). it’s been a very hectic week for me but i’m almost done with debate responses!

Will be interested to see your debate responses.  Smile
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2022, 03:07:20 PM »


Are you/Warren going to answer the debate questions? Would love to see your responses.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2022, 02:20:13 PM »

Are we getting another round up?

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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2022, 02:55:29 PM »

I haven't actually announced the beginning of the next turn yet, so anyone posting said turn is getting a bit ahead of themselves.

I just posted my schedule for later on a little in advance. You said earlier that it's all right to post schedules in advance of the coming rounds. In this case, I've gotten a schedule up for the next month or so because I already had all the information planned out and wanted it written down so I didn't lose it. If it's a problem to post it in advance, though, I can copy the post, delete it, and then repost it when the next round begins, if you want.
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2022, 04:54:38 PM »

I haven't actually announced the beginning of the next turn yet, so anyone posting said turn is getting a bit ahead of themselves.

I just posted my schedule for later on a little in advance. You said earlier that it's all right to post schedules in advance of the coming rounds. In this case, I've gotten a schedule up for the next month or so because I already had all the information planned out and wanted it written down so I didn't lose it. If it's a problem to post it in advance, though, I can copy the post, delete it, and then repost it when the next round begins, if you want.

That's true, but I haven't decided what date the next turn ends yet (you're almost certainly making too long a schedule. I doubt the next turn will be any later than the end of July.). Plus, there will probably be a debate at some point next turn that you would need to include in your schedule.

All right then.  Let me know when the upcoming round ends when you've decided, as well as the date and place for the debate this round, and I'll edit my schedule accordingly.
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2022, 01:33:39 AM »

The Turn is closed.

The next turn will be posted either later today or Tuesday.

It's Tuesday night, PT (and Wednesday morning ET), and the round still isn't up
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2022, 07:15:32 PM »

The Turn is closed.

The next turn will be posted either later today or Tuesday.

It's Tuesday night, PT (and Wednesday morning ET), and the round still isn't up

Sorry.

It'll be up soon.


I hate to badger and pester like this, but it is now 8.15 PM PT on Wednesday. When do you expect another round to be up? Truth be told I am beginning to lose patience; the round was supposed to have started by yesterday, latest.
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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2022, 09:45:29 PM »

The Turn is closed.

The next turn will be posted either later today or Tuesday.

It's Tuesday night, PT (and Wednesday morning ET), and the round still isn't up

Sorry.

It'll be up soon.


I hate to badger and pester like this, but it is now 8.15 PM PT on Wednesday. When do you expect another round to be up? Truth be told I am beginning to lose patience; the round was supposed to have started by yesterday, latest.

I'll get started on it right now.

Feel free to look for a new GM too. I'd personally reccommend NHI or Lumine as my replacement for the future.

Don't get me wrong, you've been a good GM and I'd be happy if you continued on as GM of the game. And I didn't mean to be rude or pushy in my post at all, so if I was, my apologies.
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2022, 10:01:21 PM »

Here's the deal everyone. I'm stepping down as GM, as I feel this game deserves a more active GM than I can provide.

GoTfan will take over as GM, and Tammy Baldwin (GoTfan) will exit the Presidential race, and will be reentering the Senate race in Wisconsin. A full post from GoTfan will be forthcoming shortly.

GoTfan will also announce the new end date for the turn, so the sooner you get your schedules and debate responses in, the better off you will be.

I'm very happy Baldwin's withdrawing since although I was able to attack the other 3 candidates fairly successfully, I was having great difficulty attacking Baldwin (though I did dig up some dirt after doing a little research, it wasn't as good as what I have on Hochul and Harris) and finding effective attacks that stuck. Now for Cooper to subtely try and frame himself in a slightly more progressive light to crack into the Baldwin vote!
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2022, 03:42:14 PM »

It's been tough for me to post updates as Cooper over the last several days because of device changes. Would thus appreciate a turn extension to June 12 or June 13, if that's possible.
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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2022, 12:12:44 AM »

Answer to both is yes. Turn is extending to the 16th

Thanks for the extension.
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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2022, 12:46:04 AM »

“Tom Miller is the longest-serving Attorney General in the country. We need more people like him. We need people who are committed to getting government to work, not just talking a big game. He’s worked hard to hold big pharma accountable for the opioid crisis, making sure money goes into the pockets of the people suffering from this epidemic. He’s fought against big tech using antitrust laws, and he’s expanding consumer protections. I’m not only proud of his endorsement, but I’m looking forward to implementing these strategies on the national stage, making sure the US government is working for you, not just huge corporations.”

What's this?? I was already granted Miller's endorsement by NYE via PM (the PM was dated April 29 - before this post of yours) and have campaigned with him extensively and have announced his endorsement a while back. Perhaps NYE forgot, but he's already given me Miller's endorsement - how can it be then given to you, too?
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2022, 01:01:36 AM »

“Tom Miller is the longest-serving Attorney General in the country. We need more people like him. We need people who are committed to getting government to work, not just talking a big game. He’s worked hard to hold big pharma accountable for the opioid crisis, making sure money goes into the pockets of the people suffering from this epidemic. He’s fought against big tech using antitrust laws, and he’s expanding consumer protections. I’m not only proud of his endorsement, but I’m looking forward to implementing these strategies on the national stage, making sure the US government is working for you, not just huge corporations.”

What's this?? I was already granted Miller's endorsement by NYE via PM (the PM was dated April 29 - before this post of yours) and have campaigned with him extensively and have announced his endorsement a while back. Perhaps NYE forgot, but he's already given me Miller's endorsement - how can it be then given to you, too?

I gave CentristRepublican that endorsement. However, as GoTfan is now the GM, all endorsements are his responsibility, and if he wants to open them up again, that's his call.

Yeah, but that post is dated May 18, from when you were still GM.
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2022, 01:10:20 AM »

“Tom Miller is the longest-serving Attorney General in the country. We need more people like him. We need people who are committed to getting government to work, not just talking a big game. He’s worked hard to hold big pharma accountable for the opioid crisis, making sure money goes into the pockets of the people suffering from this epidemic. He’s fought against big tech using antitrust laws, and he’s expanding consumer protections. I’m not only proud of his endorsement, but I’m looking forward to implementing these strategies on the national stage, making sure the US government is working for you, not just huge corporations.”

What's this?? I was already granted Miller's endorsement by NYE via PM (the PM was dated April 29 - before this post of yours) and have campaigned with him extensively and have announced his endorsement a while back. Perhaps NYE forgot, but he's already given me Miller's endorsement - how can it be then given to you, too?

I gave CentristRepublican that endorsement. However, as GoTfan is now the GM, all endorsements are his responsibility, and if he wants to open them up again, that's his call.

Yeah, but that post is dated May 18, from when you were still GM.

Correct, but what I'm trying to say is that GoTfan wants to open up endorsements again (i.e all endorsers who have previously endorsed are up for grabs, for example), he could do that. It's within his rights as GM.

I'm not GM any longer, so I suggest you PM GoTfan about this.

Fair enough, and I completely understand what you are saying here. However, all this does not explain the mystery of Miller giving multiple endorsements simultaneously  from when you were GM. I understand that as GM, GoTfan can now choose to revoke Miller’s endorsements and all other endorsements. That is fine. But I fail to understand why you, as GM, previously gave Miller’s endorsement to multiple candidates. That is what I’m asking about. It may just have been oversight, which is understandable, but I’d nonetheless appreciate an explanation for this.
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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2022, 01:14:59 AM »

“Tom Miller is the longest-serving Attorney General in the country. We need more people like him. We need people who are committed to getting government to work, not just talking a big game. He’s worked hard to hold big pharma accountable for the opioid crisis, making sure money goes into the pockets of the people suffering from this epidemic. He’s fought against big tech using antitrust laws, and he’s expanding consumer protections. I’m not only proud of his endorsement, but I’m looking forward to implementing these strategies on the national stage, making sure the US government is working for you, not just huge corporations.”

What's this?? I was already granted Miller's endorsement by NYE via PM (the PM was dated April 29 - before this post of yours) and have campaigned with him extensively and have announced his endorsement a while back. Perhaps NYE forgot, but he's already given me Miller's endorsement - how can it be then given to you, too?

I gave CentristRepublican that endorsement. However, as GoTfan is now the GM, all endorsements are his responsibility, and if he wants to open them up again, that's his call.

Yeah, but that post is dated May 18, from when you were still GM.

Correct, but what I'm trying to say is that GoTfan wants to open up endorsements again (i.e all endorsers who have previously endorsed are up for grabs, for example), he could do that. It's within his rights as GM.

I'm not GM any longer, so I suggest you PM GoTfan about this.

Fair enough, and I completely understand what you are saying here. However, all this does not explain the mystery of Miller giving multiple endorsements simultaneously  from when you were GM. I understand that as GM, GoTfan can now choose to revoke Miller’s endorsements and all other endorsements. That is fine. But I fail to understand why you, as GM, previously gave Miller’s endorsement to multiple candidates. That is what I’m asking about.

I am guilty of that. However, you asked first, and therefore your endorsement would have been acknowledged. You should have brought it to my attention before I stepped down as GM.

I'm sorry for the confusion.

All right, got it now; thanks for explaining. The only reason I’m bringing this up only now and didn’t do so earlier is because, tbh, I didn’t even notice it till now and only just noticed. But anyway, thanks for explaining.
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« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2022, 06:39:39 PM »

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How will you address the ongoing opioid crisis?

What we have witnessed from the opioid crisis is the sheer greed of Big Pharma. They make the big bucks over the disregard of human lives, over families being destroyed after losing their loved ones. In New York City, I successfully pushed for over $250 million in new spending for fighting the opioid crisis. We have been using these funds for treatment programs, for continued education, and—maybe most importantly—preventing future cases of opioid abuse from happening in the first place. I have also provided assistance when possible for the state Attorney General and district attorney’s efforts in prosecuting bad actors who perpetuate this problem.

As President, I will place the health and well-being of Americans as a top priority. If we fall ill to substance abuse or from other matters, all our other problems will build on top of each other. I’ve pushed for healthier lunches and better exercise routines starting at a young school age to encourage good lifestyle habits, and these efforts will continue as President in conjunction with our anti-opioid programs.


Cooper: "This is a serious crisis. A report estimated that about one hundred and thirty people a day die from opioid-related drug overdoses. In the past two decades, 850,000 people have died from drug overdoses. In Tomah, Wisconsin, in 2014, Jason Simcakoski , a 35-year-old Marine Corps, died from opiate overdose. It was because of over-prescription. Senator Tammy Baldwin did nothing about this, even after that. There was an investigation into the Tomah VA by the Department of Veterans Affairs. But Senator Baldwin did nothing, throwing others under the bus and hiring fixer-lawyers as the situation grew ever worse. Jason Simcakoski's widow herself lay the blame with Baldwin for refusing to address this crisis. We need a leader in the White House who will take accountability for this crisis, take this issue seriously. I will be that leader. There will be investigations and inspections and better accountability and accounting regarding prescriptions. No more will people like Jason Simcakoski and their families suffer because of government oversight, government carelessness, and government incompetence. Our elected officials absolutely need to do something about this crisis, and unlike Senator Baldwin, I promise I won't pass the buck."

Governor Cooper: Respectfully, please don't act like a typical politician. The question was about what you would do to fix the opioid crisis, not just badmouthing your rival. Voters deserve better and this debate is about our ideas and records.

You're absolutely right. The truth is I had recently finally dug up some dirt on Baldwin, and I wanted to share it. She was dropping out, so this debate was really my last chance to slam Baldwin on it. And the question was perfect for me to go into that. I also was too lazy to do the research and decided to just use some dirt on Baldwin while I could. However, you're entirely right - Cooper's response to this question was pretty bad actually, since I didn't really have him highlight any specific solutions; he just attacked Baldwin and vaguely promised to do better. And if this was reality, I'd be pretty irritated with Cooper, since I'd expect and hope for a better response on this serious topic than just petty mudslinging and a vague promise to fix the problem without giving specific ideas/solutions/action plans.

And I also want to add your own response was rock-solid. I was too lazy to do the research on this one and just decided that it was the best time to unveil some opposition research - your response, however, was perfect and is a model to follow.


Lastly, welcome to the game. I look forward to campaigning against you/Adams for the nomination.
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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2022, 09:12:13 PM »

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How will you address the ongoing opioid crisis?

What we have witnessed from the opioid crisis is the sheer greed of Big Pharma. They make the big bucks over the disregard of human lives, over families being destroyed after losing their loved ones. In New York City, I successfully pushed for over $250 million in new spending for fighting the opioid crisis. We have been using these funds for treatment programs, for continued education, and—maybe most importantly—preventing future cases of opioid abuse from happening in the first place. I have also provided assistance when possible for the state Attorney General and district attorney’s efforts in prosecuting bad actors who perpetuate this problem.

As President, I will place the health and well-being of Americans as a top priority. If we fall ill to substance abuse or from other matters, all our other problems will build on top of each other. I’ve pushed for healthier lunches and better exercise routines starting at a young school age to encourage good lifestyle habits, and these efforts will continue as President in conjunction with our anti-opioid programs.


Cooper: "This is a serious crisis. A report estimated that about one hundred and thirty people a day die from opioid-related drug overdoses. In the past two decades, 850,000 people have died from drug overdoses. In Tomah, Wisconsin, in 2014, Jason Simcakoski , a 35-year-old Marine Corps, died from opiate overdose. It was because of over-prescription. Senator Tammy Baldwin did nothing about this, even after that. There was an investigation into the Tomah VA by the Department of Veterans Affairs. But Senator Baldwin did nothing, throwing others under the bus and hiring fixer-lawyers as the situation grew ever worse. Jason Simcakoski's widow herself lay the blame with Baldwin for refusing to address this crisis. We need a leader in the White House who will take accountability for this crisis, take this issue seriously. I will be that leader. There will be investigations and inspections and better accountability and accounting regarding prescriptions. No more will people like Jason Simcakoski and their families suffer because of government oversight, government carelessness, and government incompetence. Our elected officials absolutely need to do something about this crisis, and unlike Senator Baldwin, I promise I won't pass the buck."

Governor Cooper: Respectfully, please don't act like a typical politician. The question was about what you would do to fix the opioid crisis, not just badmouthing your rival. Voters deserve better and this debate is about our ideas and records.

You're absolutely right. The truth is I had recently finally dug up some dirt on Baldwin, and I wanted to share it. She was dropping out, so this debate was really my last chance to slam Baldwin on it. And the question was perfect for me to go into that. I also was too lazy to do the research and decided to just use some dirt on Baldwin while I could. However, you're entirely right - Cooper's response to this question was pretty bad actually, since I didn't really have him highlight any specific solutions; he just attacked Baldwin and vaguely promised to do better. And if this was reality, I'd be pretty irritated with Cooper, since I'd expect and hope for a better response on this serious topic than just petty mudslinging and a vague promise to fix the problem without giving specific ideas/solutions/action plans.

And I also want to add your own response was rock-solid. I was too lazy to do the research on this one and just decided that it was the best time to unveil some opposition research - your response, however, was perfect and is a model to follow.


Lastly, welcome to the game. I look forward to campaigning against you/Adams for the nomination.

These are all things that will be taken into account.

To be fair, I personally think my other debate responses were good. And I've by far done the most extensive campaigning. I've actually gone out into the weeds in rural IA to campaign. So though this particular debate response wasn't all that good, I feel the other stuff more than recompenses for it.
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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2022, 09:37:39 PM »

Turn is going up later on today. Want some time to celebrate my birthday first.

Happy birthday 🎂 🥳
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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2022, 03:04:40 PM »

So is anyone actually gonna post or is this dead?

You honestly haven’t given enough time. Personally I think a week per turn is most reasonable, particularly if you’re squeezing in two months of campaigning within each turn. I myself will probably get Cooper’s campaign schedule for the next two months later today (also note I’m talking California time, which is well behind Australian time).
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« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2022, 03:08:29 PM »

Also, regarding endorsements:

A) You mentioned creating another thread for endorsements. Is that happening, or are you not going to do that? (I’m personally good either way.)
B) Are all previously-granted endorsements still standing? Like, do I still have Tom Miller’s and Mitch Landrieu’s endorsements and all the other ones? Or is it a blank slate now, with all endorsements up for grabs and all previous endorsements no longer valid?
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