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[Schiff for Senate]

I personally believe Trump should be declared withdrawn due to inactivity.

McMahon as the presumptive nominee sure would make this a memorable TL lol. Of course, other Republicans may jump in later anyway.

McMahon as the nominee would actually just make the GE a cakewalk for the Democratic nominee...so the GE would actually be a lot less interesting. And even the primaries would be less exciting on the GOP side, since as the presumptive nominee, McMahon wouldn't campaign as much. If we want an exciting/memorable TL - the best solution is as things currently appear: a decent performance and active campaign by McMahon in the GOP primary to keep things exciting there (the Democratic primary is already very exciting IMO), but to have Trump (or somebody else, IDK, might be too late for that now) in the GE so the GE is legitimately reasonably competitive too.

[Schiff for Senate]

I personally believe Trump should be declared withdrawn due to inactivity.

McMahon as the presumptive nominee sure would make this a memorable TL lol. Of course, other Republicans may jump in later anyway.

McMahon as the nominee would actually just make the GE a cakewalk for the Democratic nominee...so the GE would actually be a lot less interesting. And even the primaries would be less exciting on the GOP side, since as the presumptive nominee, McMahon wouldn't campaign as much. If we want an exciting/memorable TL - the best solution is as things currently appear: a decent performance and active campaign by McMahon in the GOP primary to keep things exciting there (the Democratic primary is already very exciting IMO), but to have Trump (or somebody else, IDK, might be too late for that now) in the GE so the GE is legitimately reasonably competitive too.

There's also always the possibility of a strong independent/third party run to spice up the GE even with McMahon.

More interesting, and not too far-fetched, maybe: Democrat vs. Trump vs. an Independent/Third-Party McMahon. Though I suppose that'd give the Dems a solid advantage in the GE as well, since McMahon would draw votes from the Trump side / Republicans.

[Schiff for Senate]

Next round?

[Schiff for Senate]

Next round?

On the way. I got hit with a particularly intense bout of depression recently so working through that.

Oh, sorry to hear that. Take all the time you need and hopefully you’re fine or will be fine…you’ll get through it.

[Schiff for Senate]

Preemptively going to request an extension I will definitely be needing.

I have two tests in school tomorrow, and a quiz on Thursday, and will be gone all weekend (going down to Los Angeles to meet my aunt and uncle with family). Meaning that I won’t be able to really play until after school on Monday - so Monday evening at about 4:00 (CA time) is when I’ll be able to even start playing (and I won’t be able to get all the information down till Tuesday evening, quite possibly).

[Schiff for Senate]

Just a *suggestion* (which should not be by any means misconstrued to be armchair-generalling or anything): Post Super Tuesday, you should make the states' delegates winner-take-all, or do something like, some proportion of the delegates are automatically given to the winner, while the rest are distributed proportional to the results (for instance, say 50% of the delegates automatically go to the winner of the primary, and the other 50% are distributed proportionally - then, say, if Cooper wins 60% in a state with 30 delegates, he'd first off immediately receive 50% of the 30 delegates - so 15 delegates - and then 60% of the remaining 50% of delegates - so another 9 delegates - to give him 24 delegates and give Harris/Kerry a total of 6). Because the way all the states are totally proportional, it's not having very much of an impact when Cooper loses three primaries in a row, since he's still all right in terms of delegate count, and when it is in fact proportional, there's not nearly as much of an impetus to win a state's primary when you realise that, really, it's a question of only a few delegates and not a lot of them. My advice personally would be to let Super Tuesday be mostly winner-take-all since that's the way it's been till now - with maybe a few a mixture of winner-take-all and proportional, as described above - but thereafter, start having the states be mostly a hybrid of winner-take-all and proportional, with a few of the most competitive states being complete winner-take-all (so there's a lot of pressure on Cooper/Harris/Kerry to extensively campaign, and to win in, those specific states - since there wouldn't be just a few delegates at stake, but all the state's thirty or forty or fifty or more delegates).

[Schiff for Senate]

Just a *suggestion* (which should not be by any means misconstrued to be armchair-generalling or anything): Post Super Tuesday, you should make the states' delegates winner-take-all, or do something like, some proportion of the delegates are automatically given to the winner, while the rest are distributed proportional to the results (for instance, say 50% of the delegates automatically go to the winner of the primary, and the other 50% are distributed proportionally - then, say, if Cooper wins 60% in a state with 30 delegates, he'd first off immediately receive 50% of the 30 delegates - so 15 delegates - and then 60% of the remaining 50% of delegates - so another 9 delegates - to give him 24 delegates and give Harris/Kerry a total of 6). Because the way all the states are totally proportional, it's not having very much of an impact when Cooper loses three primaries in a row, since he's still all right in terms of delegate count, and when it is in fact proportional, there's not nearly as much of an impetus to win a state's primary when you realise that, really, it's a question of only a few delegates and not a lot of them. My advice personally would be to let Super Tuesday be mostly winner-take-all since that's the way it's been till now - with maybe a few a mixture of winner-take-all and proportional, as described above - but thereafter, start having the states be mostly a hybrid of winner-take-all and proportional, with a few of the most competitive states being complete winner-take-all (so there's a lot of pressure on Cooper/Harris/Kerry to extensively campaign, and to win in, those specific states - since there wouldn't be just a few delegates at stake, but all the state's thirty or forty or fifty or more delegates).

I think we've established that GoTfan does not want suggestions?

I think he's fine with them, as long as it's evident they're not too nagging or frequent, and provided it's mostly constructive criticism. If he has a problem with them, that's different,t but otherwise, I think it'd be a great idea for him to incorporate a hybrid system of winner-take-all and proportional in the primaries. If he doesn't want to do that - that's fine. But I think it's best if he considers this proposal, at least.

[Schiff for Senate]

Just a *suggestion* (which should not be by any means misconstrued to be armchair-generalling or anything): Post Super Tuesday, you should make the states' delegates winner-take-all, or do something like, some proportion of the delegates are automatically given to the winner, while the rest are distributed proportional to the results (for instance, say 50% of the delegates automatically go to the winner of the primary, and the other 50% are distributed proportionally - then, say, if Cooper wins 60% in a state with 30 delegates, he'd first off immediately receive 50% of the 30 delegates - so 15 delegates - and then 60% of the remaining 50% of delegates - so another 9 delegates - to give him 24 delegates and give Harris/Kerry a total of 6). Because the way all the states are totally proportional, it's not having very much of an impact when Cooper loses three primaries in a row, since he's still all right in terms of delegate count, and when it is in fact proportional, there's not nearly as much of an impetus to win a state's primary when you realise that, really, it's a question of only a few delegates and not a lot of them. My advice personally would be to let Super Tuesday be mostly winner-take-all since that's the way it's been till now - with maybe a few a mixture of winner-take-all and proportional, as described above - but thereafter, start having the states be mostly a hybrid of winner-take-all and proportional, with a few of the most competitive states being complete winner-take-all (so there's a lot of pressure on Cooper/Harris/Kerry to extensively campaign, and to win in, those specific states - since there wouldn't be just a few delegates at stake, but all the state's thirty or forty or fifty or more delegates).

I think we've established that GoTfan does not want suggestions?

I think he's fine with them, as long as it's evident they're not too nagging or frequent, and provided it's mostly constructive criticism. If he has a problem with them, that's different,t but otherwise, I think it'd be a great idea for him to incorporate a hybrid system of winner-take-all and proportional in the primaries. If he doesn't want to do that - that's fine. But I think it's best if he considers this proposal, at least.

That's not the impression I was getting.

From me (as in, I sounded bossy and negative and should reword my post), or from him (as in, he doesn't want any suggestions at all, period)? Or both?

[Schiff for Senate]

Just a *suggestion* (which should not be by any means misconstrued to be armchair-generalling or anything): Post Super Tuesday, you should make the states' delegates winner-take-all, or do something like, some proportion of the delegates are automatically given to the winner, while the rest are distributed proportional to the results (for instance, say 50% of the delegates automatically go to the winner of the primary, and the other 50% are distributed proportionally - then, say, if Cooper wins 60% in a state with 30 delegates, he'd first off immediately receive 50% of the 30 delegates - so 15 delegates - and then 60% of the remaining 50% of delegates - so another 9 delegates - to give him 24 delegates and give Harris/Kerry a total of 6). Because the way all the states are totally proportional, it's not having very much of an impact when Cooper loses three primaries in a row, since he's still all right in terms of delegate count, and when it is in fact proportional, there's not nearly as much of an impetus to win a state's primary when you realise that, really, it's a question of only a few delegates and not a lot of them. My advice personally would be to let Super Tuesday be mostly winner-take-all since that's the way it's been till now - with maybe a few a mixture of winner-take-all and proportional, as described above - but thereafter, start having the states be mostly a hybrid of winner-take-all and proportional, with a few of the most competitive states being complete winner-take-all (so there's a lot of pressure on Cooper/Harris/Kerry to extensively campaign, and to win in, those specific states - since there wouldn't be just a few delegates at stake, but all the state's thirty or forty or fifty or more delegates).

I think we've established that GoTfan does not want suggestions?

I think he's fine with them, as long as it's evident they're not too nagging or frequent, and provided it's mostly constructive criticism. If he has a problem with them, that's different,t but otherwise, I think it'd be a great idea for him to incorporate a hybrid system of winner-take-all and proportional in the primaries. If he doesn't want to do that - that's fine. But I think it's best if he considers this proposal, at least.

That's not the impression I was getting.

From me (as in, I sounded bossy and negative and should reword my post), or from him (as in, he doesn't want any suggestions at all, period)? Or both?

From him. He has his own style and he'd prefer not to have to deal with our suggestions, especially since he's played several games before and generally has a good idea of what to do.

All right, well then, whenever GoTfan sees these posts, and he clarifies whether or not he's open to suggestions, we'll see. I would hope he's not putting a stop to all suggestions, and that he'll give my proposition serious consideration (although if he doesn't - you won't hear me complain: although I feel the game would be a bit more realistic/more interesting if GoTfan incorporated my idea, if he doesn't, I get the feeling that strategically, the beneficiaries may well be Cooper and Kerry, and the loser Harris; at least, that's exactly how it's played out thus far).

[Schiff for Senate]

Personally, I like maintaining the proportional system. While it admittedly benefits a candidate like mine, it's also what Democrats use in reality and it would entice competition for longer. Not going to cry if it switches to winner-take-all, though.

To be sure, I’m not in support of or advocating a winner-take-all system myself. It would be very detrimental to the Cooper campaign had it been implemented earlier, and if it applied on Super Tuesday, given that all of CA’s many delegates would go to Harris, it would basically be throwing both of us under the bus. It’s pretty unfair and makes it very tough to beat Harris. However, what I am proposing is a hybrid of winner-take-all and proportional, which I think is both fairest (since it makes actually winning each primary important, but doesn’t make it totally all-or-nothing) and most realistic (since IIRC in 2020, a lot of states allocated some delegates to the primary winner, and then distributed the rest of the delegates roughly proportionally, or at least something along those lines that would be much more difficult to recreate in this game). If/when this is put up for a vote, my advice is that you vote for it.

[Schiff for Senate]

I must say, this Vince McMahon candidate is a despicable scumbag…which, I’m guessing, is precisely what Pink Panther wants him to be 

[Schiff for Senate]

I must say, this Vince McMahon candidate is a despicable scumbag…which, I’m guessing, is precisely what Pink Panther wants him to be 

Tbf, Vince is a despicable scumbag irl.

I literally did not know who Vince McMahon even was - like I didn’t know he was a WWE wrestler; pretty sure I hadn’t even heard his game - until you had him enter this game. If the real Vince McMahon is anything like his in-game persona that you’ve created (which, for all I know, he is - and I’ll take you at your word that he is), then yeah, I’m not exactly left with a positive impression of this man.

I kind of hope it’s you and me in the GE, though, since Cooper (and for that matter, Harris, or Kerry) would just steamroll McMahon (though GoTfan might adjust that to keep the GE somewhat competitive).

[Schiff for Senate]

February 17th | Rest Day.

Well, you won't hear me complain about Kamala Harris wasting valuable time "resting"...  

[Schiff for Senate]

February 17th | Rest Day.

Well, you won't hear me complain about Kamala Harris wasting valuable time "resting"...  

I doubt any candidate would be able to work on their official duties AND campaign for 2 months straight.

True, but this is a game - realistically, yeah, you need a break every once in a while (IRL, if Cooper was running for president, he would almost certainly have to return to NC much more frequently than I have him do so in the game), but in this game, you don’t need to bother: you can campaign every single day. Why bother wasting a day when you don’t have to and it can be much better utilized campaigning? Frankly, I feel like you’re resting on your laurels a bit if you think that Harris can afford to spend one day off the campaign trail that all the other candidates are busy campaigning of (obviously it’s not the end of the Harris Campaign by any means, but it’s not like you’re so ahead that you can afford extravagencies like this).

[Schiff for Senate]

You snooze, you loose, it seems...I didn't send GoTfan any endorsement requests in a while, while Spiral was busy at work, and now he's nabbed the two biggest endorsements in AL. Still, I've rectified the mistake now.

[Schiff for Senate]

I honestly do not know how endorsement request even work in this game, I've def requested a couple but....that's as far as it got.

We should probably ask Spiral how he got his. Can you just claim whatever endorsements you want without checking with GoTfan first? Because if so, there’s a torrent of endorsements I’ll have Cooper receive in the next round.

[Schiff for Senate]

Er, no. You just send a list of endorsements you're requesting and GoTfan reviews them for which ones he'll grant that turn.

That’s what I suspected, and that’s the process I’ve followed so far. I was only wondering because Ashton said he’s asked for endorsements but never received an answer (of course, maybe it’s just that GoTfan hasn’t seen/replied to it yet and will do so soon).

Doesn’t matter then. I just hope my endorsements are accepted (some pretty solid ones in there imo).

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Mental health for teenagers has come into focus recently following the suicide of a 16 year old girl in Durham, North Carolina due to depression.

Depressed kids commit suicide every day; no offence, but why would this particular kid be a special case that attracts national attention?

Also, I think it'd be awkward for Cooper to just call this girl "this girl," so I'm going to take the liberty of giving her a name.

[Schiff for Senate]

Mental health for teenagers has come into focus recently following the suicide of a 16 year old girl in Durham, North Carolina due to depression.

Depressed kids commit suicide every day; no offence, but why would this particular kid be a special case that attracts national attention?

Also, I think it'd be awkward for Cooper to just call this girl "this girl," so I'm going to take the liberty of giving her a name.

 . . .

I’m not trivializing it or saying it’s no biggie or that it doesn’t matter - only that the fact is that these things are unfortunately very common, and the reality is, one kid committing suicide is never this big of a news story. Perhaps it should be - and I’m not arguing that it shouldn’t - but the fact is that it isn’t, and that’s what I was saying. Unless the circumstances were extraordinary or highly unusual or something - this would not be a national story and would not warrant a visit to the suicided’s parents by POTUS.

[Schiff for Senate]

This game dead, once and for all, then? Kind of disappointing, but I'll take some of the blame if it has.

[Schiff for Senate]

This game dead, once and for all, then? Kind of disappointing if it has, given how far we'd gotten (myself in particular - no offence to anybody else, but I'm the only one who played from start to finish) but I'll take some of the blame if it has. Either way though, given that it's been over 2 weeks since anything was posted in either thread, pretty sure it has.

[Schiff for Senate]

Still planning to get posts in on my end, eventually. I'd expect them soon.

Any updates on this?
Anyway, I honestly do think, whether you post or not, this game is dead...I myself don't post very much on the forum of late, Ashton's not been active here either, and most importantly, GoTfan seems to have quit as GM for real this time (and I take all the blame for that - though I did try to persuade him to stay on temporarily).