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« Reply #200 on: August 27, 2022, 01:26:24 PM »

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« Reply #201 on: August 27, 2022, 01:46:50 PM »

If Peltola wins how would it impact the race in November?  Would she be favored to win again, or would the race be easier to win for the GOP if Begich potentially drops out?
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« Reply #202 on: August 27, 2022, 02:29:12 PM »

If Peltola wins how would it impact the race in November?  Would she be favored to win again, or would the race be easier to win for the GOP if Begich potentially drops out?

Begich dropping out may, in all honesty, make it easier for an incumbent Peltola to win 1-on-1 against Palin on the same day that Dems/Indies/moderate Repubs/Natives unite to save Lisa Murkowski's career. The smartest move for the AKGOP would be Palin withdrawing & endorsing Begich for the simple reason that he'd clearly clobber Peltola in a 1-on-1. Ofc, this strategy would inherently be entirely dependent on Palin's cooperation, which can't be assumed because she hates Begich. If everybody stays in, then I'm curious to see how much an inc. Peltola gains & how much Palin support switches to Begich.
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« Reply #203 on: August 27, 2022, 02:33:00 PM »


PELTOLA is likely running against Sullivan in 26, Newsom on NATL TV SAID BIDEN IS THE NOMINEE IN 24

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« Reply #204 on: August 27, 2022, 02:35:53 PM »

It would kind of be a hard ask to get Palin to drop out and endorse Begich if she comes a close second whereas Begich didn’t even advance to the final round.
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« Reply #205 on: August 27, 2022, 02:36:13 PM »

If Peltola wins how would it impact the race in November?  Would she be favored to win again, or would the race be easier to win for the GOP if Begich potentially drops out?

Yes she would be favored it's ranked choice voting Mon PARTISAN
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« Reply #206 on: August 27, 2022, 02:40:45 PM »

It would kind of be a hard ask to get Palin to drop out and endorse Begich if she comes a close second whereas Begich didn’t even advance to the final round.

There's also this weird, unlikely but still possible, world where Palin dropping out endorses Peltola. They apparently have a very good working relationship that dates back to how Palin found a way to work with a legislature that doesn't universally follow the party whips. Given the contrasting persoanl relationship with Begich, she'd probably add on a bunch of stuff about RINOs and disloyalty to justify a personal choice, if such weirdness were to occur.
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« Reply #207 on: August 27, 2022, 02:41:52 PM »

It would kind of be a hard ask to get Palin to drop out and endorse Begich if she comes a close second whereas Begich didn’t even advance to the final round.

There's also this weird, unlikely but still possible, world where Palin dropping out endorses Peltola. They apparently have a very good working relationship that dates back to how Palin found a way to work with a legislature that doesn't universally follow the party whips.

Palin and Pelota's relationship is strange - there's every likelihood they ranked each other second.
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« Reply #208 on: August 27, 2022, 02:54:52 PM »

It would kind of be a hard ask to get Palin to drop out and endorse Begich if she comes a close second whereas Begich didn’t even advance to the final round.

There's also this weird, unlikely but still possible, world where Palin dropping out endorses Peltola. They apparently have a very good working relationship that dates back to how Palin found a way to work with a legislature that doesn't universally follow the party whips. Given the contrasting persoanl relationship with Begich, she'd probably add on a bunch of stuff about RINOs and disloyalty to justify a personal choice, if such weirdness were to occur.
People forget Palin was a very popular and effective governor. Even lief liked her in 2006's something
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« Reply #209 on: August 27, 2022, 03:03:43 PM »

It would kind of be a hard ask to get Palin to drop out and endorse Begich if she comes a close second whereas Begich didn’t even advance to the final round.

There's also this weird, unlikely but still possible, world where Palin dropping out endorses Peltola. They apparently have a very good working relationship that dates back to how Palin found a way to work with a legislature that doesn't universally follow the party whips. Given the contrasting persoanl relationship with Begich, she'd probably add on a bunch of stuff about RINOs and disloyalty to justify a personal choice, if such weirdness were to occur.
People forget Palin was a very popular and effective governor. Even lief liked her in 2006's something
Palin was a governor with a net good record. She lost the plot when she prioritized conservative stardom over actual governance.
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« Reply #210 on: August 27, 2022, 03:06:28 PM »

It would kind of be a hard ask to get Palin to drop out and endorse Begich if she comes a close second whereas Begich didn’t even advance to the final round.

There's also this weird, unlikely but still possible, world where Palin dropping out endorses Peltola. They apparently have a very good working relationship that dates back to how Palin found a way to work with a legislature that doesn't universally follow the party whips. Given the contrasting persoanl relationship with Begich, she'd probably add on a bunch of stuff about RINOs and disloyalty to justify a personal choice, if such weirdness were to occur.
People forget Palin was a very popular and effective governor. Even lief liked her in 2006's something
Palin was a governor with a net good record. She lost the plot when she prioritized conservative stardom over actual governance.

It's funny how if you look at the issue of an oil severance tax, she is very far to the left of California Democrats.
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« Reply #211 on: August 27, 2022, 03:13:50 PM »

It would kind of be a hard ask to get Palin to drop out and endorse Begich if she comes a close second whereas Begich didn’t even advance to the final round.

There's also this weird, unlikely but still possible, world where Palin dropping out endorses Peltola. They apparently have a very good working relationship that dates back to how Palin found a way to work with a legislature that doesn't universally follow the party whips. Given the contrasting persoanl relationship with Begich, she'd probably add on a bunch of stuff about RINOs and disloyalty to justify a personal choice, if such weirdness were to occur.
People forget Palin was a very popular and effective governor. Even lief liked her in 2006's something
Palin was a governor with a net good record. She lost the plot when she prioritized conservative stardom over actual governance.

It's funny how if you look at the issue of an oil severance tax, she is very far to the left of California Democrats.
It is no accident she had a lot of support from Democrats.
Back in the day I compared Palin to Bachmann. That was not accurate. Palin is, at heart, an attention chaser with persistent ethics issues.
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« Reply #212 on: August 27, 2022, 03:18:26 PM »

It would kind of be a hard ask to get Palin to drop out and endorse Begich if she comes a close second whereas Begich didn’t even advance to the final round.

There's also this weird, unlikely but still possible, world where Palin dropping out endorses Peltola. They apparently have a very good working relationship that dates back to how Palin found a way to work with a legislature that doesn't universally follow the party whips. Given the contrasting persoanl relationship with Begich, she'd probably add on a bunch of stuff about RINOs and disloyalty to justify a personal choice, if such weirdness were to occur.
People forget Palin was a very popular and effective governor. Even lief liked her in 2006's something
Palin was a governor with a net good record. She lost the plot when she prioritized conservative stardom over actual governance.

It's funny how if you look at the issue of an oil severance tax, she is very far to the left of California Democrats.
It is no accident she had a lot of support from Democrats.
Back in the day I compared Palin to Bachmann. That was not accurate. Palin is, at heart, an attention chaser with persistent ethics issues.

The best description of Sarah Palin remains the one given by Chris Matthews back in 2010: "An empty vessel ready to be filled by ideology she doesn't even understand"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBsl_5yXQQ4
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« Reply #213 on: August 27, 2022, 03:40:31 PM »

 Honestly I think Begich dropping out would benefit Palin. A ranked-choice election with only two candidates is, in practice, a FPTP vote, and I think Palin would be favored there since Begich voters would have to rank a Democrat 1st instead of 2nd, which might be harder for them to internally justify.
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« Reply #214 on: August 29, 2022, 04:59:47 AM »

As a Democrat I'm all for whatever helps Democrats flip/hold this seat, but what is the point of implementing the top-four RCV if candidates are just going to drop out strategically? Obviously understand the two-party system prioritizes victory at any cost, but are we not even going to let the system play out even once?
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« Reply #215 on: August 29, 2022, 01:02:35 PM »
« Edited: August 29, 2022, 05:32:58 PM by Smash255 »

As a Democrat I'm all for whatever helps Democrats flip/hold this seat, but what is the point of implementing the top-four RCV if candidates are just going to drop out strategically? Obviously understand the two-party system prioritizes victory at any cost, but are we not even going to let the system play out even once?

You could see that happen, but part of it might be similar to what you see in a Presidential Primary after Super Tuesday or something like that.  After the showing in the Primary a candidate might reflect on their chances of actually winning.  If someone feels they have no shot, they might back out.

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« Reply #216 on: August 29, 2022, 02:36:04 PM »

When will we know the winner?
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« Reply #217 on: August 29, 2022, 02:42:30 PM »


Wednesday, probably some time in the evening.
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« Reply #218 on: August 29, 2022, 03:10:03 PM »

As a Democrat I'm all for whatever helps Democrats flip/hold this seat, but what is the point of implementing the top-four RCV if candidates are just going to drop out strategically? Obviously understand the two-party system prioritizes victory at any cost, but are we not even going to let the system play out even once?
until RCV is more entrenched there's the worry of voters not knowing how it works and spoiling their ballots.
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« Reply #219 on: August 29, 2022, 06:20:36 PM »


Peltola/Ryan.
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« Reply #220 on: August 30, 2022, 05:13:01 PM »

Results at 8pm EST tomorrow.

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« Reply #221 on: August 30, 2022, 07:11:12 PM »

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« Reply #222 on: August 30, 2022, 07:17:30 PM »



That sounds as awkward as when a winner is named in Miss America, or a reality competition show, or something.
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« Reply #223 on: August 30, 2022, 07:19:48 PM »



That sounds as awkward as when a winner is named in Miss America, or a reality competition show, or something.
That's actually how every UK Parliamentary election winner is announced.
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« Reply #224 on: August 30, 2022, 07:22:30 PM »



That sounds as awkward as when a winner is named in Miss America, or a reality competition show, or something.
That's actually how every UK Parliamentary election winner is announced.

It still sounds uncomfortable to watch.
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