Florida's "don't say gay" bill passes state house

[Ferguson97]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

I'm participating in a conversation with other people. I really wish Democrats would stop trying to gaslight everybody into thinking that every weird thing on the left doesn't exist. It's a big part of why your party is so intolerable.

It's remarkable how in every thread about the Republicans introducing some evil legislation, we have to be reminded that Democrats are a little bit annoying sometimes.

[7,052,770]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

I'm participating in a conversation with other people. I really wish Democrats would stop trying to gaslight everybody into thinking that every weird thing on the left doesn't exist. It's a big part of why your party is so intolerable.

I'm gaslighting when I say I don't know anybody who "pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation"? That's a new one...

[7,052,770]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

As a general rule, people who exist on the internet also tend to exist in real life.

I think it's pretty well established that Twitter is full of grandstanders and provocateurs. The idea that there is any significant movement on "the Left" to classify "demisexuals" as another letter in the LGBTQ community is laughably out of touch with reality.

[Calthrina950]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

I'm participating in a conversation with other people. I really wish Democrats would stop trying to gaslight everybody into thinking that every weird thing on the left doesn't exist. It's a big part of why your party is so intolerable.

I put Harry on ignore not too long ago. I've found him to be one of the most ardent and hackish defenders of his political party on this forum.

[Klobmentum Mutilated Herself]

I think it's pretty well established that Twitter is full of grandstanders and provocateurs. The idea that there is any significant movement on "the Left" to classify "demisexuals" as another letter in the LGBTQ community is laughably out of touch with reality.

Demisexuals are already included in the A of LGBTQIA, since they're considered to be a part of the asexual spectrum. But you're correct that nobody, including asexual people, considers them to be oppressed in the sake way as the Ls, Gs, Bs, Ts, or Is. Trans kids are being literally kidnapped by the state, forcibly detransitioning, and having the people who actually support them arrested, whereas ace people are generally just annoyed at how sex-obsessed society is and how people treat them as weirdos for not experiencing sexual attraction (which does kinda put them at odds with the radical sex positivity of the much of the LGBTQ community), but again, they don't claim they're oppressed.

Why the homophobic and transphobic lobby is picking a fight with ace people is beyond me. Why do you care if people call themselves demisexual when that is, in fact, an accurate descriptor of their sexuality, or lack thereof? And even if it wasn't, why would anyone even care?

[7,052,770]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

I'm participating in a conversation with other people. I really wish Democrats would stop trying to gaslight everybody into thinking that every weird thing on the left doesn't exist. It's a big part of why your party is so intolerable.

I put Harry on ignore not too long ago. I've found him to be one of the most ardent and hackish defenders of his political party on this forum.

Probably for the best. At least this way you won't make up fake quotes, claim I said them, and then get all pissy and defensive when I point out that I didn't say them and don't believe them. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[DaleCooper]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

As a general rule, people who exist on the internet also tend to exist in real life.

I think it's pretty well established that Twitter is full of grandstanders and provocateurs. The idea that there is any significant movement on "the Left" to classify "demisexuals" as another letter in the LGBTQ community is laughably out of touch with reality.

Does GLAAD count?

[John Dule]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

As a general rule, people who exist on the internet also tend to exist in real life.

I think it's pretty well established that Twitter is full of grandstanders and provocateurs. The idea that there is any significant movement on "the Left" to classify "demisexuals" as another letter in the LGBTQ community is laughably out of touch with reality.

The Twitter weirdos of today are the leftist leaders of tomorrow. The same was true for Tumblr 15 years ago-- and 4Chan for the right, for that matter.

[Badger]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

I'm participating in a conversation with other people. I really wish Democrats would stop trying to gaslight everybody into thinking that every weird thing on the left doesn't exist. It's a big part of why your party is so intolerable.

It's remarkable how in every thread about the Republicans introducing some evil legislation, we have to be reminded that Democrats are a little bit annoying sometimes.

[Hindsight was 2020]

I find it weird that throughout this threads discussion that the fact the person behind the bill is a state senator who is a notorious homophobe who has supported conversion therapy in the past hasn’t come up

[7,052,770]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

As a general rule, people who exist on the internet also tend to exist in real life.

I think it's pretty well established that Twitter is full of grandstanders and provocateurs. The idea that there is any significant movement on "the Left" to classify "demisexuals" as another letter in the LGBTQ community is laughably out of touch with reality.

Does GLAAD count?

GLAAD considers "demisexuals" to be marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary?

[DaleCooper]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

As a general rule, people who exist on the internet also tend to exist in real life.

I think it's pretty well established that Twitter is full of grandstanders and provocateurs. The idea that there is any significant movement on "the Left" to classify "demisexuals" as another letter in the LGBTQ community is laughably out of touch with reality.

Does GLAAD count?

GLAAD considers "demisexuals" to be marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary?

Apparently

[7,052,770]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

As a general rule, people who exist on the internet also tend to exist in real life.

I think it's pretty well established that Twitter is full of grandstanders and provocateurs. The idea that there is any significant movement on "the Left" to classify "demisexuals" as another letter in the LGBTQ community is laughably out of touch with reality.

Does GLAAD count?

GLAAD considers "demisexuals" to be marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary?

Apparently

That's the best you can do? I'm inviting you to prove me wrong, got my gracious "ah-ha, you got me!" all prepared, and you can't even give link me a damn link?

[DaleCooper]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

As a general rule, people who exist on the internet also tend to exist in real life.

I think it's pretty well established that Twitter is full of grandstanders and provocateurs. The idea that there is any significant movement on "the Left" to classify "demisexuals" as another letter in the LGBTQ community is laughably out of touch with reality.

Does GLAAD count?

GLAAD considers "demisexuals" to be marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary?

Apparently

That's the best you can do? I'm inviting you to prove me wrong, got my gracious "ah-ha, you got me!" all prepared, and you can't even give link me a damn link?

They include it under the asexual spectrum, which they include in the LGBTQIA acronym.

[7,052,770]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

As a general rule, people who exist on the internet also tend to exist in real life.

I think it's pretty well established that Twitter is full of grandstanders and provocateurs. The idea that there is any significant movement on "the Left" to classify "demisexuals" as another letter in the LGBTQ community is laughably out of touch with reality.

Does GLAAD count?

GLAAD considers "demisexuals" to be marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary?

Apparently

That's the best you can do? I'm inviting you to prove me wrong, got my gracious "ah-ha, you got me!" all prepared, and you can't even give link me a damn link?

They include it under the asexual spectrum, which they include in the LGBTQIA acronym.

I'm going to need a link, and a link where GLAAD states that "demisexuals" are marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary.

[DaleCooper]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

As a general rule, people who exist on the internet also tend to exist in real life.

I think it's pretty well established that Twitter is full of grandstanders and provocateurs. The idea that there is any significant movement on "the Left" to classify "demisexuals" as another letter in the LGBTQ community is laughably out of touch with reality.

Does GLAAD count?

GLAAD considers "demisexuals" to be marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary?

Apparently

That's the best you can do? I'm inviting you to prove me wrong, got my gracious "ah-ha, you got me!" all prepared, and you can't even give link me a damn link?

They include it under the asexual spectrum, which they include in the LGBTQIA acronym.

I'm going to need a link, and a link where GLAAD states that "demisexuals" are marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary.

Unless GLAAD doesn't believe that asexuals are marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary, then they do. If GLAAD doesn't believe that about asexuals, then I'd be surprised, but I'd stand corrected.

As for the links, there's plenty of information on GLAAD's website about asexuality and demisexuality if you care to read it, but I already know that you're not going to accept the links I share so I'm not going to bother. 

[7,052,770]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

As a general rule, people who exist on the internet also tend to exist in real life.

I think it's pretty well established that Twitter is full of grandstanders and provocateurs. The idea that there is any significant movement on "the Left" to classify "demisexuals" as another letter in the LGBTQ community is laughably out of touch with reality.

Does GLAAD count?

GLAAD considers "demisexuals" to be marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary?

Apparently

That's the best you can do? I'm inviting you to prove me wrong, got my gracious "ah-ha, you got me!" all prepared, and you can't even give link me a damn link?

They include it under the asexual spectrum, which they include in the LGBTQIA acronym.

I'm going to need a link, and a link where GLAAD states that "demisexuals" are marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary.

Unless GLAAD doesn't believe that asexuals are marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary, then they do. If GLAAD doesn't believe that about asexuals, then I'd be surprised, but I'd stand corrected.

As for the links, there's plenty of information on GLAAD's website about asexuality and demisexuality if you care to read it, but I already know that you're not going to accept the links I share so I'm not going to bother. 

What the hell is this? I already said I was itching to declare you right and me wrong. Do you think if you sent me a link from GLAAD's webpage that said "Demisexuals are marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary" I'd be like "uh, no they don't actually say that..." like some kind of raving fool? Show me where they say that. I genuinely am curious.

[DaleCooper]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

As a general rule, people who exist on the internet also tend to exist in real life.

I think it's pretty well established that Twitter is full of grandstanders and provocateurs. The idea that there is any significant movement on "the Left" to classify "demisexuals" as another letter in the LGBTQ community is laughably out of touch with reality.

Does GLAAD count?

GLAAD considers "demisexuals" to be marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary?

Apparently

That's the best you can do? I'm inviting you to prove me wrong, got my gracious "ah-ha, you got me!" all prepared, and you can't even give link me a damn link?

They include it under the asexual spectrum, which they include in the LGBTQIA acronym.

I'm going to need a link, and a link where GLAAD states that "demisexuals" are marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary.

Unless GLAAD doesn't believe that asexuals are marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary, then they do. If GLAAD doesn't believe that about asexuals, then I'd be surprised, but I'd stand corrected.

As for the links, there's plenty of information on GLAAD's website about asexuality and demisexuality if you care to read it, but I already know that you're not going to accept the links I share so I'm not going to bother. 

What the hell is this? I already said I was itching to declare you right and me wrong. Do you think if you sent me a link from GLAAD's webpage that said "Demisexuals are marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary" I'd be like "uh, no they don't actually say that..." like some kind of raving fool? Show me where they say that. I genuinely am curious.

They discuss demisexuality in their asexual awareness articles. They don't say "Demisexuals are marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary" in those exact words, but unless you believe that GLAAD does not think of asexuality in those terms then the implication is clear.

[Hammy]

Unless GLAAD doesn't believe that asexuals are marginalized, unique, and out of the ordinary, then they do. If GLAAD doesn't believe that about asexuals, then I'd be surprised, but I'd stand corrected.

As for the links, there's plenty of information on GLAAD's website about asexuality and demisexuality if you care to read it, but I already know that you're not going to accept the links I share so I'm not going to bother. 

Asexuals are in fact marginalized--either you're treated like you're broken or defective by friends and family--essentially ostracized because you aren't horny for everything that moves--or assumed to be gay, and face what comes with that.

My parents threatened to send me to therapists to fix what they felt was wrong with me (some "late bloomer" garbage) until I lied and hid it behind a no sex before marriage moral objection. At school people unilaterally decided I was gay, which resulted in various levels of harassments and threats which are not appropriate to go into detail here. Literally not one person believed I simply didn't have sexual desires without feeling it meant I was broken or defective, and treating me as if I was mentally deficient.

Regarding demisexual, a two second google brought up a page saying it's "halfway between sexual and asexual" which I can't particularly make sense of, but to each their own. But having a definition there does not equal treating it as a marginalized group, as much as people wanting to have more personalized things to call themselves rather than falling under an umbrella. Again, I can't makes sense of this (I grew up in the 'don't label me' generation) but it's certainly being blown out of proportion.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Can't believe it's now illegal to say gay in Florida

[T'Chenka]

Can't believe it's now illegal to say gay in Florida

That's Republican small government libertarianism for you.

[Figueira]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

I'm participating in a conversation with other people. I really wish Democrats would stop trying to gaslight everybody into thinking that every weird thing on the left doesn't exist. It's a big part of why your party is so intolerable.

It's the Democratic Party's fault that Harry doesn't hang out in the same social circles as you?

[ProudModerate2]

https://us.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/06/09/dont-say-gay-florida-family-orig-kj-mss.cnn

Interesting video (watch link above).
I don't see any reason why a short introduction/lesson to young children, regarding families with two dads/moms would harm anyone. If anything it benefits all kids involved.

[T'Chenka]

https://us.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/06/09/dont-say-gay-florida-family-orig-kj-mss.cnn

Interesting video (watch link above).
I don't see any reason why a short introduction/lesson to young children, regarding families with two dads/moms would harm anyone. If anything it benefits all kids involved.

Anything that encourages LGBTQ people to be open and vocal is against what Republicans want for the country. Whatever makes them quiet, invisible or leaving is preferable.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Pretending "demisexuality" is a unique or out-of-the-ordinary sexual orientation, and a marginalized one at that, is silly.

That statement is true, but I've never met nor even heard of anyone who does that.

Are you getting hot and bothered over some #online social media thing again?

As a general rule, people who exist on the internet also tend to exist in real life.

I think it's pretty well established that Twitter is full of grandstanders and provocateurs. The idea that there is any significant movement on "the Left" to classify "demisexuals" as another letter in the LGBTQ community is laughably out of touch with reality.

The Twitter weirdos of today are the leftist leaders of tomorrow. The same was true for Tumblr 15 years ago-- and 4Chan for the right, for that matter.

No. The leaders of tomorrow are mostly the same people they've always been (the increasing dominance of gerontocracy means they're often exactly the same people), and the aesthetics they rock are mostly disingenuous.

This may change as the political system grows more unstable, but I'd argue it hasn't really yet. The post-Trump "populist" right is increasingly dominated by people who disagree on messaging tactics, not strategy - the tension comes because the old guard are going to lose their jobs, not because the new guard aren't corporate stooges. You can say the same about most of the very online Democratic Representatives, too.