Erdogan wants people to call Turkey "Türkiye" even in English and other languages

[Helsinkian]

"The association with the bird genuinely annoys Erdogan".

BBC:

No news yet on whether the Turks will reciprocate by calling Germany "Deutschland", Greece "Ελλάδα" or China "中国".

[TML]

Barring subsequent reversals, I believe that the new name will probably be the standard across most of the English-speaking world by the late 2020s (just like how Mumbai has now displaced Bombay).

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I'm not typing that umlaut.

[Antonio the Sixth]

lol, not a chance

That'll go about as well as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints' similar effort.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

And the rest of the world should care what offends this psychopathic creep...why?

[Helsinkian]

lol, not a chance

That'll go about as well as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints' similar effort.

Although Swaziland -> Eswatini has gained ground so much that Wikipedia now uses the latter as the primary name.

[Illiniwek]

Gobble gobble Erdogan, gobble gobble.

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

"The association with the bird genuinely annoys Erdogan".

BBC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkiokGKBHCc

No news yet on whether the Turks will reciprocate by calling Germany "Deutschland", Greece "Ελλάδα" or China "中国".

Why don't you respect how anybody want to be called? What's the problem with Türkiye or more likely Turkiye?

Nothing strange there. For instance, Belarus insisted to call them Belarus instead of Belarussia (White Russia), because they don't want be associated with Russia.

A lot of countries slowly make the change (including Germany). Notably Finland didn't. They probably don't want to be poke the Russian Bear


https://www.euronews.com/2020/08/21/belarus-or-white-russia-how-the-country-s-name-is-dividing-europe
Belarus or "White Russia"? How the country's name is dividing Europe

However, on the Dutch Foreign Ministry website, both "Belarus" and "Wit-Rusland" are listed under the same country. In a statement to Euronews, a ministry spokesperson confirmed that the Netherlands considers that both are "correct names"

"Belarus" is used for official documents, such as Treaties, but that "Wis-Rusland" also remains in use.

"Most of the people in the Netherlands are more familiar with Wit-Rusland than Belarus," added the spokesperson.

The Foreign Ministry in Germany follows a similar policy.

While "Belarus" is displayed on the Ministry website and has been officially used by the Foreign Office since March 1992, the term "Weißrussland" ("White Russia") also appears in national communications.

But on August 10, the popular news magazine Der Spiegel also announced it was changing its naming policy.

"In order to make it clear that Belarus is a sovereign state that is not part of Russia, the Federal Foreign Office has been using the official and contemporary name for some time", Der Spiegel said.

"We agree with this development and will in future write Belarus instead of Weißrussland".

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs not only advocated the use of "Belarus" in Swedish language but also expressed that other countries with the Latin alphabet should use that form.

And yet in neighbouring Finland, Belarus is listed as "Valko-Venäjä" ("White-Russia") on the country's Foreign Office website.

“In the names and spellings of the countries, we follow the instructions and guidelines of the Finnish Language Center,” a Ministry spokesperson told Euronews.

While “Belarus” is the recommended spelling in English, organisations are instructed to use "Valko-Venäjä" in Finnish.

https://verietyinfo.com/norwayeng/denmark-changes-its-name-in-belarus/
https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1317601/white-russia-or-belarus-lithuania-mulls-changing-name-for-its-eastern-neighbour

[Person Man]

Erdogan can start by stop being a turkey.

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

Türkiye's rights are human rights!

[rc18]

lol, not a chance

That'll go about as well as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints' similar effort.

Why? You don't call Istanbul Constantinople anymore.

[Helsinkian]

"The association with the bird genuinely annoys Erdogan".

BBC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkiokGKBHCc

No news yet on whether the Turks will reciprocate by calling Germany "Deutschland", Greece "Ελλάδα" or China "中国".

Why don't you respect how anybody want to be called? What's the problem with Türkiye or more likely Turkiye?

Again, would you call Germany "Deutschland", Greece "Ελλάδα" or China "中国" instead of the name in your language if those countries asked for it?

And Belarus is "Valko-Venäjä" in Finnish because the letter B is alien to the Finnish language. Plenty of people are already mispronouncing "Belgia" with a P, but there's no alternative name for Belgium.

[Person Man]

lol, not a chance

That'll go about as well as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints' similar effort.

Why? You don't call Istanbul Constantinople anymore.

It would be cool if we could.

[Santander]

Barring subsequent reversals, I believe that the new name will probably be the standard across most of the English-speaking world by the late 2020s (just like how Mumbai has now displaced Bombay).

Mumbai has far from displaced Bombay. Even in India, many people still say Bombay, and certainly among the diaspora, Bombay is highly-prevalent. It's not a great comparison anyway, since Mumbai rolls off the tongue just as easily as Bombay for an English speaker. A better comparison would be Bengaluru.

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

"The association with the bird genuinely annoys Erdogan".

BBC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkiokGKBHCc

No news yet on whether the Turks will reciprocate by calling Germany "Deutschland", Greece "Ελλάδα" or China "中国".

Why don't you respect how anybody want to be called? What's the problem with Türkiye or more likely Turkiye?

Again, would you call Germany "Deutschland", Greece "Ελλάδα" or China "中国" instead of the name in your language if those countries asked for it?

It's not out of the blue. They don't want to be called as gobble bird. Also Turkiye esp without ü is really different to Greece/China etc cases. So zero similarities to your examples (except Deutschland), but quite similar to Belarus case that Finland doesn't respect 

Another somewhat relevant example would be Gypsies vs Romes. Do you still call them Mustalainen?

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustalainen

[StateBoiler]

"The association with the bird genuinely annoys Erdogan".

BBC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkiokGKBHCc

No news yet on whether the Turks will reciprocate by calling Germany "Deutschland", Greece "Ελλάδα" or China "中国".

Why don't you respect how anybody want to be called? What's the problem with Türkiye or more likely Turkiye?

Again, would you call Germany "Deutschland", Greece "Ελλάδα" or China "中国" instead of the name in your language if those countries asked for it?

Well Ivory Coast no longer exists and it's now Cote d'Ivoire. Ditto East Timor/Timor-Leste. It's hardly particular to Turks.

Remember lots of Italians annoyed during the '06 Winter Olympics that English speakers call Torino "Turin".

[Antonio the Sixth]

Although Swaziland -> Eswatini has gained ground so much that Wikipedia now uses the latter as the primary name.

Why? You don't call Istanbul Constantinople anymore.

Those are both different words from the previous, not less-familiar and less-phonetically-intuitive versions of the same word. Heck, in Eswatini's case, it's arguably easier to read and pronounce than Swaziland. Your parallels make no sense.

[Santander]

Why not rebrand as Turkia, a la Czechia? It approximates the Turkish pronunciation, while being approachable for English speakers. Perhaps the etymology is too Western for Erdogan's taste, but we're not talking about changing the Turkish name for the country.

[Del Tachi]

One of the great unresolved challenges of human language will always be translating proper nouns. 

If the current fashion of preferring local spelling/pronunciation is taken to its logical conclusion, then there is no reason "Beijing" won't be printed as 北京 in the English-language newspapers of tomorrow.   

[Helsinkian]

Well Ivory Coast no longer exists and it's now Cote d'Ivoire. Ditto East Timor/Timor-Leste. It's hardly particular to Turks.

No one in Finland calls the country Cote d'Ivoire. It's still "Norsunluurannikko", which means "Ivory Coast". Looking at various Wikipedia versions, several languages seem to retain their native names for that country.

Edit. English Wikipedia also uses "Ivory Coast" as the article's name.

[StateBoiler]

Well Ivory Coast no longer exists and it's now Cote d'Ivoire. Ditto East Timor/Timor-Leste. It's hardly particular to Turks.

No one in Finland calls the country Cote d'Ivoire. It's still "Norsunluurannikko", which means "Ivory Coast".

Good for the Finns. But the country's name has become Cote d'Ivoire, even for English speakers.

[Santander]

Well Ivory Coast no longer exists and it's now Cote d'Ivoire. Ditto East Timor/Timor-Leste. It's hardly particular to Turks.

No one in Finland calls the country Cote d'Ivoire. It's still "Norsunluurannikko", which means "Ivory Coast".

Good for the Finns. But the country's name has become Cote d'Ivoire, even for English speakers.

Lol, no. Everyone still says Ivory Coast.

[rc18]

lol, not a chance

That'll go about as well as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints' similar effort.

Why? You don't call Istanbul Constantinople anymore.

It would be cool if we could.

You can, that's the point, but I'm pretty sure you don't, because everyone will look at you funny.

Someone mentioned Czechia, that's another great example. It always used to be Czech Republic, calling it Czechia is a relatively new thing.

[Хahar 🤔]

Hey, it worked for Kiev.

[StateBoiler]

Well Ivory Coast no longer exists and it's now Cote d'Ivoire. Ditto East Timor/Timor-Leste. It's hardly particular to Turks.

No one in Finland calls the country Cote d'Ivoire. It's still "Norsunluurannikko", which means "Ivory Coast".

Good for the Finns. But the country's name has become Cote d'Ivoire, even for English speakers.

Lol, no. Everyone still says Ivory Coast.

You're confusing colloquialism for officialdom. Officially, Turkey can do whatever they want, part of being a sovereign state is you can choose your name. Swaziland, Czech Republic, Macedonia have all done this pretty recently. Supposedly before Nazerbayev left power he was going to change Kazakhstan's name to Kazak Yeli because "-stan" is associated with Afghanistan/Pakistan and other areas that have wars. Colloquially is another style that means casual. Colloquially, Latin Americans believe that Americans refers to anyone living in the Americas. So a Chilean is an americano because he resides in South America, the (proper) Spanish word for American is estadounidense, literally unitedstatesian. Colloquially around the world, "American" refers to people living in the United States of America. Myself I rarely use the term America to refer to my country, I typically use U.S. instead.