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« on: February 13, 2022, 10:48:38 AM »

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21203700-cnn-poll-neither-biden-trump-democrats-republicans-support-president-2024

45% of Democrats/Dem-leaning indies think Biden should run again, while 51% don't.

50% of Republicans/GOP-leaning indies think Trump should run again, while 49% don't.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2022, 10:52:45 AM »

Not that surprising, I think a majority of this country thinks it's time for a new generation of leaders, who are born in the 1960s at least, or 1970s. Obama was the only major party nominee born after 1948 so far. Just let that sink in for a moment.

That said, both sides would still end up voting for their candidate and a vote is a vote, doesn't matter whether it's with enthusiasm or not. Turnout would almost certainly decline in another Biden-Trump matchup.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2022, 06:09:33 PM »

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21203700-cnn-poll-neither-biden-trump-democrats-republicans-support-president-2024

45% of Democrats/Dem-leaning indies think Biden should run again, while 51% don't.

50% of Republicans/GOP-leaning indies think Trump should run again, while 49% don't.

I know this is splitting hairs, but technically the respondents were not being asked whether Biden and Trump should run again.  The question is about who the parties should nominate, and it’s:

Among Dems:
Someone Else 51%
Biden 45%

Among Republicans:
Trump 50%
Someone Else 49%

Just wanted to mention that because, as I recall from past polling, the number of Republicans who say they want Trump to run again is at least a bit higher than those who say that he’s currently their 1st choice for the nomination.

The poll also notes some past results on this question….

Dems being asked about their choice for 1996 Dem. nominee in November 1994:
Clinton 55%
Someone Else 35%

Dems being asked about their choice for 2012 Dem. nominee in March 2010:
Obama 76%
Someone Else 20%

Republicans being asked about their choice for 2020 GOP nominee in March 2018:
Trump 75%
Someone Else 20%
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2022, 06:13:02 PM »

Then we have this poll question asking those Dems who don’t want Biden why they prefer someone else:
Don’t think he can win against the GOP nominee 35%
Don’t want him to be reelected president 31%
Some other reason 34%

Over half the people who said “some other reason” said that the “other reason” was Biden’s age.

Is there a specific person you’d like to see the Democratic Party nominate, or do you just want someone besides Biden?

Just someone besides Biden 72%
A specific person 25%

The top choices for “a specific person”:
Sanders 5%
M. Obama 4%
Buttigieg 2%
Harris 2%
Warren 1%
Ocasio-Cortez 1%
Oprah Winfrey 1%
Booker 1%

Then we have this poll question asking those Republicans who don’t want Trump why they prefer someone else:
Don’t want him to be president again 39%
Don’t think he can win against the Dem. nominee 22%
Some other reason 38%

The top choices amongst those who said “some other reason”:
need someone new/better
too polarizing/disliked/divisive
his personality/need someone with different traits

Is there a specific person you’d like to see the GOP nominate, or do you just want someone besides Trump?

Just someone besides Trump 60%
A specific person 38%

The top choices for “a specific person”:
DeSantis 21%
Trump Jr. 1%
Crenshaw 1%
Paul 1%
Haley 1%
Pence 1%
Cruz 1%
T. Scott 1%
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2022, 07:12:27 PM »

Not that surprising, I think a majority of this country thinks it's time for a new generation of leaders, who are born in the 1960s at least, or 1970s. Obama was the only major party nominee born after 1948 so far. Just let that sink in for a moment.

The obsession with "baby boomers" as a category masks the sheer number of prominent US politicians who were born in from roughly 1940 to 1949 (compared to relatively few who were born in the following decade).
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2022, 08:16:38 PM »

Isn't De Santis basically a rebooted Marcobot?
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2022, 10:19:41 PM »

My goodness does this country need fresh, modern-thinking leadership - across the board.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2022, 10:06:51 AM »

Isn't De Santis basically a rebooted Marcobot?

That was Rick Scott. It's hard to tell the Florida Triumvirate apart but Rubio appears to have less charisma than the other two and appears less on the ball.

DeSantis wants to be "the right mix" of Donald Trump and Karl Rove. Kind of the way Hawley and Cotton do.
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2022, 10:11:35 AM »

Biden having these numbers as an incumbent is horrendous. He's toast basically a year into his term. Democrats would be better primarying him.
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2022, 05:53:58 AM »

Not that surprising, I think a majority of this country thinks it's time for a new generation of leaders, who are born in the 1960s at least, or 1970s. Obama was the only major party nominee born after 1948 so far. Just let that sink in for a moment.

That said, both sides would still end up voting for their candidate and a vote is a vote, doesn't matter whether it's with enthusiasm or not. Turnout would almost certainly decline in another Biden-Trump matchup.

They'd have been loads of nominees born in the 1960s and after already if they had sufficient political skills.
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