MA-GOV 2018: Talbert Swan vs. Scott Lively
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« on: February 09, 2022, 02:08:33 AM »
« edited: February 09, 2022, 02:14:43 AM by Butlerian Jihad »

Not making this a poll because I want discussion here.

Battle of the socon Springfield pastors. Swan is a big NAACP guy and regularly gets into beef with other Christian leaders on social media over racial issues; he's rumored to have briefly considered running as a testimonial candidate in 2018. Lively is the author of The Pink Swastika, which should need no introduction due to its title; he, of course, primaried Baker in 2018 and came closer than he had any right to (although he still got crushed). Both have said pretty pointedly homophobic (as well as anti-abortion) things in the past, although Swan seems to have quietly (by his standards) moderated or dropped those views more recently.

Imagine the MADP settles on a bomb-throwing black Pentecostal bishop as its sacrificial lamb to go down high-energy rather than with the turboboring Jay Gonzalez, and a dead girl/live boy scandal hits Baker right before the GOP primary. Lively squeaks by and come November the Massachusetts electorate is faced with a choice between two of the least "495-beltway-friendly" candidates imaginable. Do moderate Smiley Republicans and/or affluent Smiley Democrats stay home? Does either candidate have any crossover appeal, and if so, to whom? Its your choose. Let's discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2022, 02:36:24 AM »

Talbert Swan probably wins in a low-turnout race. Neither Swan nor Lively would have much cross-over appeal, which probably hands the election to Swan due to the partisan lean of Massachusetts. Lively would struggle with higher income and less religious Republicans, while Swan would struggle with suburbanites and staunch social liberals unwilling to support him due to his views on LGBT issues.
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2022, 07:44:14 AM »

Talbert Swan probably wins in a low-turnout race. Neither Swan nor Lively would have much cross-over appeal, which probably hands the election to Swan due to the partisan lean of Massachusetts. Lively would struggle with higher income and less religious Republicans, while Swan would struggle with suburbanites and staunch social liberals unwilling to support him due to his views on LGBT issues.
Scott lively is not viable to most people.
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