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« on: January 27, 2022, 10:01:47 AM »

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The survey was conducted from Jan. 10-21 and 1,000 adults nationwide were interviewed.

Adults:

Biden (D) 43%
Trump (R) 33%

Biden (D) 41%
DeSantis (R) 33%
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2022, 10:11:19 AM »

Garbage poll with so many undecided. Only confirms that American's aren't hot about either candidate now, with DeSantis not having universal name rec.

Trump and DeSantis would get at least 45% no matter what, Biden gets >48% no matter what.
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2022, 10:20:13 AM »
« Edited: January 27, 2022, 02:00:12 PM by Person Man »

Garbage poll with so many undecided. Only confirms that American's aren't hot about either candidate now, with DeSantis not having universal name rec.

Trump and DeSantis would get at least 45% no matter what, Biden gets >48% no matter what.

Pretty much. In a totally neutral year, the Democrat would beat the Republican in the NPV by 51-48. I think Michigan would be won relatively easily, Georgia and Arizona would narrowly flip, and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania would decide it. At this rate, maybe it would be the other way around or stay that way if Trump isn't up there and the new guy isn't that compelling. OTOH, Romney showed that even with someone who has zero charisma with non-traditional Republicans and ultimately lost by about double the margin he was expected to, he still did very well with Clinton-Bush and Kerry-McCain voters. Charisma can start trends but the lack thereof can't slow them down.


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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2022, 10:40:50 AM »

Garbage poll with so many undecided. Only confirms that American's aren't hot about either candidate now, with DeSantis not having universal name rec.

Trump and DeSantis would get at least 45% no matter what, Biden gets >48% no matter what.

On the contrary, I think this poll is very helpful. DeSantis is low likely because of name recognition issues, but the fact that Trump (the man who was president just a year ago) is only getting 33% from one of Wisconsin's few relatively trustworthy polls is downright embarrassing. Biden should be horrified too, polling only 43% as an incumbent president. This is a very telling poll and if there was ever room for a dark horse populist candidate to come in and take nation by storm, now is the time.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2022, 11:40:45 AM »

Garbage poll with so many undecided. Only confirms that American's aren't hot about either candidate now, with DeSantis not having universal name rec.

Trump and DeSantis would get at least 45% no matter what, Biden gets >48% no matter what.

On the contrary, I think this poll is very helpful. DeSantis is low likely because of name recognition issues, but the fact that Trump (the man who was president just a year ago) is only getting 33% from one of Wisconsin's few relatively trustworthy polls is downright embarrassing. Biden should be horrified too, polling only 43% as an incumbent president. This is a very telling poll and if there was ever room for a dark horse populist candidate to come in and take nation by storm, now is the time.

Both parties could use a Dark Horse Populist as both parties are in sh**t shape.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2022, 12:21:10 PM »

Garbage poll with so many undecided. Only confirms that American's aren't hot about either candidate now, with DeSantis not having universal name rec.

Trump and DeSantis would get at least 45% no matter what, Biden gets >48% no matter what.

On the contrary, I think this poll is very helpful. DeSantis is low likely because of name recognition issues, but the fact that Trump (the man who was president just a year ago) is only getting 33% from one of Wisconsin's few relatively trustworthy polls is downright embarrassing. Biden should be horrified too, polling only 43% as an incumbent president. This is a very telling poll and if there was ever room for a dark horse populist candidate to come in and take nation by storm, now is the time.

Both parties could use a Dark Horse Populist as both parties are in sh**t shape.

Nope, COVID is the issue, not individual candidates both Trump and Biden haven't stopped it

If Harris was Prez or Pence the polls would be the same
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2022, 01:19:18 PM »

Literally just proves my idea that Biden and Trump both have floors in an election campaign, but Biden's is higher.
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2022, 01:58:01 PM »

Garbage poll with so many undecided. Only confirms that American's aren't hot about either candidate now, with DeSantis not having universal name rec.

Trump and DeSantis would get at least 45% no matter what, Biden gets >48% no matter what.

On the contrary, I think this poll is very helpful. DeSantis is low likely because of name recognition issues, but the fact that Trump (the man who was president just a year ago) is only getting 33% from one of Wisconsin's few relatively trustworthy polls is downright embarrassing. Biden should be horrified too, polling only 43% as an incumbent president.

But it is not a WI poll, but a Nat poll, and so far has been one of most rosy for Biden's approvals. Moreover, the results are among Adults, not even RV. Their Nat poll showed Biden +10 among Likely Voters, now it's Biden +10 among Adults.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2022, 02:41:14 PM »

Garbage poll with so many undecided. Only confirms that American's aren't hot about either candidate now, with DeSantis not having universal name rec.

Trump and DeSantis would get at least 45% no matter what, Biden gets >48% no matter what.

On the contrary, I think this poll is very helpful. DeSantis is low likely because of name recognition issues, but the fact that Trump (the man who was president just a year ago) is only getting 33% from one of Wisconsin's few relatively trustworthy polls is downright embarrassing. Biden should be horrified too, polling only 43% as an incumbent president.

But it is not a WI poll, but a Nat poll, and so far has been one of most rosy for Biden's approvals. Moreover, the results are among Adults, not even RV. Their Nat poll showed Biden +10 among Likely Voters, now it's Biden +10 among Adults.


Ah, I didn't realize Marquette did national polls. That's a little different but still, I trust them a lot more than most, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now. Even if we're incredibly generous to him, this is not positive data for Trump. There is no name recognition for him. He's arguably the most identifiable political figure in the country, even more than Biden, and for him to get 33% of voters in what seems like a fairly credible poll is terrible.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2022, 03:30:06 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2022, 05:48:12 PM »

lol

Biden is in the worst position a Democrat has been in since Jimmy Carter in the late 70's. But somehow he's polling just as well or better than he did pre-election and getting more crossover appeal than Trump is.

At this point, it's nearly time to discredit Marquette. Their Wisconsin polls are likely going to be trash in 2022 too. If you believe this, I feel bad for you.
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2022, 07:23:32 PM »

lol

Biden is in the worst position a Democrat has been in since Jimmy Carter in the late 70's. But somehow he's polling just as well or better than he did pre-election and getting more crossover appeal than Trump is.

At this point, it's nearly time to discredit Marquette. Their Wisconsin polls are likely going to be trash in 2022 too. If you believe this, I feel bad for you.


Yup.  Based Harvard/Harris vs. Soyboy Marquette. 
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2022, 08:23:06 PM »

lol

Biden is in the worst position a Democrat has been in since Jimmy Carter in the late 70's. But somehow he's polling just as well or better than he did pre-election and getting more crossover appeal than Trump is.

At this point, it's nearly time to discredit Marquette. Their Wisconsin polls are likely going to be trash in 2022 too. If you believe this, I feel bad for you.

This isn't a reflection on Marquette in particular but the entire polling industry releasing polls this far out, with this many undecideds.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2022, 09:06:10 PM »
« Edited: January 27, 2022, 09:15:51 PM by Obama-Biden Democrat »

Garbage poll with so many undecided. Only confirms that American's aren't hot about either candidate now, with DeSantis not having universal name rec.

Trump and DeSantis would get at least 45% no matter what, Biden gets >48% no matter what.

Pretty much. In a totally neutral year, the Democrat would beat the Republican in the NPV by 51-48. I think Michigan would be won relatively easily, Georgia and Arizona would narrowly flip, and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania would decide it. At this rate, maybe it would be the other way around or stay that way if Trump isn't up there and the new guy isn't that compelling. OTOH, Romney showed that even with someone who has zero charisma with non-traditional Republicans and ultimately lost by about double the margin he was expected to, he still did very well with Clinton-Bush and Kerry-McCain voters. Charisma can start trends but the lack thereof can't slow them down.




The Democratic trend in AZ and GA would lead those states to voting Democratic in a 51-48 win. AZ  and GA will vote to the left of WI and PA in 2024.
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