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« on: January 27, 2022, 11:33:18 PM »

Karl Malone is accused of being a pedophile, John Stockton is an anti-vaxxer, and Jeff Hornacek and his daughter are rightwingers. His daughter, Abby Hornacek is a MAGAite on Fox News.

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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2022, 11:50:47 PM »

Karl Malone is also a Republican and big NRA enthusiast.
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2022, 06:37:28 AM »

Yes, as like any 90s kid in Chicagoland.
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2022, 09:59:31 AM »

Yes, as like any 90s kid in Chicagoland.

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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2022, 12:15:06 AM »

Karl Malone is accused of being a pedophile,
Not accused. Malone is a child rapist. He's only accused if you think his son born to a 13 year old girl (12 years old during conception) is an optical illusion.

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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2022, 01:55:10 AM »

Yes, because as I've said in another thread I base what sports teams to support on how the areas they are on vote. Now granted they'd be fine if they were the Salt Lake City Jazz...but they're the Utah Jazz and thus need to be judged on how the state of Utah votes.
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2022, 02:21:34 AM »

Yes, because as I've said in another thread I base what sports teams to support on how the areas they are on vote. Now granted they'd be fine if they were the Salt Lake City Jazz...but they're the Utah Jazz and thus need to be judged on how the state of Utah votes.

Doesn't that state vs. city mindset make your local favorites (all of whom go by Minnesota... and not Minneapolis...) less rootable?
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2022, 02:28:44 AM »

Yes, because as I've said in another thread I base what sports teams to support on how the areas they are on vote. Now granted they'd be fine if they were the Salt Lake City Jazz...but they're the Utah Jazz and thus need to be judged on how the state of Utah votes.

Doesn't that state vs. city mindset make your local favorites (all of whom go by Minnesota... and not Minneapolis...) less rootable?
No because that's a superceding factor, except for the University of Minnesota who I'd support Brigham Young University over. Similarly all NFL teams are ahead of the Green Bay Packers.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2022, 11:25:20 AM »

The fact that the Jazz go by that "misnomer" makes them an HP. 

At their peak, losing twice to the Bulls, a ridiculous amount of the team value was made up by those three players.  Byron Russel was a fine 4th player, but the bench was awful and while Jerry Sloan was a fine coach, his desire to play "My Fair Lady" with Ostertag  was their great failure.  It's the fact that the Bulls had a better team, not just MJ, that they won both times.

As for the players at hand, you can't undo what Malone did, maybe Stockton can get some mental health expert to make him not crazy, Hornacek probably won't get a shot to HC again, though I feel bad he felt he had to coach the Knicks for awhile.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2022, 05:56:42 PM »
« Edited: January 29, 2022, 07:45:16 PM by 7,052,770 »

Yes, because as I've said in another thread I base what sports teams to support on how the areas they are on vote. Now granted they'd be fine if they were the Salt Lake City Jazz...but they're the Utah Jazz and thus need to be judged on how the state of Utah votes.

Doesn't that state vs. city mindset make your local favorites (all of whom go by Minnesota... and not Minneapolis...) less rootable?
No because that's a superceding factor, except for the University of Minnesota who I'd support Brigham Young University over. Similarly all NFL teams are ahead of the Green Bay Packers.

Why do you hate the Gophers? Are they hockey rivals with Minnesota State? (Do they ever even play in other sports?)
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2022, 08:21:17 PM »

The fact that the Jazz go by that "misnomer" makes them an HP. 

At their peak, losing twice to the Bulls, a ridiculous amount of the team value was made up by those three players.  Byron Russel was a fine 4th player, but the bench was awful and while Jerry Sloan was a fine coach, his desire to play "My Fair Lady" with Ostertag  was their great failure.  It's the fact that the Bulls had a better team, not just MJ, that they won both times.

As for the players at hand, you can't undo what Malone did, maybe Stockton can get some mental health expert to make him not crazy, Hornacek probably won't get a shot to HC again, though I feel bad he felt he had to coach the Knicks for awhile.

They could have won it in 1999 with a Jordan-less league.
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2022, 10:06:48 PM »

The fact that the Jazz go by that "misnomer" makes them an HP. 

At their peak, losing twice to the Bulls, a ridiculous amount of the team value was made up by those three players.  Byron Russel was a fine 4th player, but the bench was awful and while Jerry Sloan was a fine coach, his desire to play "My Fair Lady" with Ostertag  was their great failure.  It's the fact that the Bulls had a better team, not just MJ, that they won both times.

As for the players at hand, you can't undo what Malone did, maybe Stockton can get some mental health expert to make him not crazy, Hornacek probably won't get a shot to HC again, though I feel bad he felt he had to coach the Knicks for awhile.

They could have won it in 1999 with a Jordan-less league.

Jazz got older while the Spurs and Lakers got better
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2022, 10:08:16 PM »

The fact that the Jazz go by that "misnomer" makes them an HP. 

At their peak, losing twice to the Bulls, a ridiculous amount of the team value was made up by those three players.  Byron Russel was a fine 4th player, but the bench was awful and while Jerry Sloan was a fine coach, his desire to play "My Fair Lady" with Ostertag  was their great failure.  It's the fact that the Bulls had a better team, not just MJ, that they won both times.

As for the players at hand, you can't undo what Malone did, maybe Stockton can get some mental health expert to make him not crazy, Hornacek probably won't get a shot to HC again, though I feel bad he felt he had to coach the Knicks for awhile.

They could have won it in 1999 with a Jordan-less league.

Jazz got older while the Spurs and Lakers got better

So when was their last chance? 1994-95 before the 72-win Bulls?
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2022, 10:19:55 PM »

Yes, because as I've said in another thread I base what sports teams to support on how the areas they are on vote. Now granted they'd be fine if they were the Salt Lake City Jazz...but they're the Utah Jazz and thus need to be judged on how the state of Utah votes.

Doesn't that state vs. city mindset make your local favorites (all of whom go by Minnesota... and not Minneapolis...) less rootable?
No because that's a superceding factor, except for the University of Minnesota who I'd support Brigham Young University over. Similarly all NFL teams are ahead of the Green Bay Packers.

Why do you hate the Gophers? Are they hockey rivals with Minnesota State? (Do they ever even play in other sports?)
Yes, along with the University of North Dakota, my brother's school, so not big on them either.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2022, 02:44:09 PM »

The fact that the Jazz go by that "misnomer" makes them an HP. 

At their peak, losing twice to the Bulls, a ridiculous amount of the team value was made up by those three players.  Byron Russel was a fine 4th player, but the bench was awful and while Jerry Sloan was a fine coach, his desire to play "My Fair Lady" with Ostertag  was their great failure.  It's the fact that the Bulls had a better team, not just MJ, that they won both times.

As for the players at hand, you can't undo what Malone did, maybe Stockton can get some mental health expert to make him not crazy, Hornacek probably won't get a shot to HC again, though I feel bad he felt he had to coach the Knicks for awhile.

They could have won it in 1999 with a Jordan-less league.

Jazz got older while the Spurs and Lakers got better

So when was their last chance? 1994-95 before the 72-win Bulls?

Can't say I followed them that closely to say, but obviously their best chances were the two years they made the finals.
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2022, 03:33:39 PM »

The fact that the Jazz go by that "misnomer" makes them an HP. 

At their peak, losing twice to the Bulls, a ridiculous amount of the team value was made up by those three players.  Byron Russel was a fine 4th player, but the bench was awful and while Jerry Sloan was a fine coach, his desire to play "My Fair Lady" with Ostertag  was their great failure.  It's the fact that the Bulls had a better team, not just MJ, that they won both times.

As for the players at hand, you can't undo what Malone did, maybe Stockton can get some mental health expert to make him not crazy, Hornacek probably won't get a shot to HC again, though I feel bad he felt he had to coach the Knicks for awhile.

They could have won it in 1999 with a Jordan-less league.

Jazz got older while the Spurs and Lakers got better

So when was their last chance? 1994-95 before the 72-win Bulls?


It would be crazy to say they didnt have a chance in 97 and 98 given how close both series were(especially 97). In 1997 3 of the 4 games they lost were all within 5 points , and in 1998 if MJ didnt make that steal and that last shot that series would have gone to a game 7 which the Bulls would have to play in Utah and with an injured Pippen .


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