2004 User Predictions - Discussion

[California Dreamer]

Dean has thw second most delegates, somehow.

Dean's second place showing in delegates is mostly due to 'superdelegates' (party leaders and elected officials) who can change their mind. Most of them jumped on the Dean bandwagon before Iowa. In fact Tom Harkin (Iowa Senator who was standing behind Dean as he imploded during the 'I have a Scream' speach in Iowa) is reportedly thinking of pulling his support.

It is highly likely that Edwards will surpass him by Super Tuesday even if his super deleagates dont abandon him by then.

[California Dreamer]

The EC is as fair and balanced as Fox news.

the EC system has ensured that America IS NOT one man one vote. it is clear that the bigger the state the less your vote counts, as a Californian my vote counts for a fraction of a Wyomingan, North Dakotan or Vermonter

and due to the politics of the day, the Republicans are more popular in the smaller states (so therefore they couldnt be more pleased by this system)

If we changed to a popular vote, or changed so that each state got ECs equivelent to the number of congressional disticts (but not add two for the senators) then it would be 'fair and balanced'

[California Dreamer]

do you have to ask why he doesnt want the urban areas to have an equal vote to the rural areas?

think back to the platform for the 'States Rights' party


The fact is the current system is 'rigged' in favor of rural and smaller states. Although the framers of the constitution wanted some kind of system to ensure larger states dont dominate smaller states, they couldnt envision an America with the number of smaller states we have and the size disparirty we have today. The bottom line is that the system that was built to ensure the bigger states dont dominate the smaller states has instead created a situtation where the smaller states dominate the bigger ones.

so for 2004, just like 2000, it means the Dems have to work that much harder to get the win.