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Question: Is Communism a type of liberalism?
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« on: January 18, 2022, 02:25:16 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2022, 02:25:55 PM »

Your poll options are messed up.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2022, 02:32:41 PM »

Your poll options are messed up.

Thanks for the catch. Meant to write no, not yes for D.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2022, 04:09:35 PM »

It is not liberal, but it is on the left. 
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2022, 04:13:44 PM »

No, its a type of mental disorder.
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2022, 04:23:23 PM »

Of course, just as Nazism is a form of conservatism, according to many of our enlightened posters.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2022, 05:17:17 PM »

Communism is a horrific crap ideology, and there were many liberals that worked to defeat it during the Cold War.
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2022, 05:18:53 PM »

Of course, just as Nazism is a form of conservatism, according to many of our enlightened posters.

I concur.

Nazism is in a whole different world.  It has nothing to do with anything else, which is why nobody should ever make any comparisons to the Nazi state.

Nazism is Satanism or Pure Evil on a much more despicable scale.
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2022, 09:47:36 PM »

I guess in the sense that it is more liberal, at least in theory, from feudalism?
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2022, 12:08:12 PM »

No (I know what words mean)
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2022, 12:51:10 PM »

Marx was strongly influenced by the liberal tradition (much more so than both his detractors and the people who claim to speak for him today would like to admit), but calling it "a part of liberalism" obviously makes no sense in light with how these currents have developed, no.
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2022, 03:28:22 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2022, 05:18:04 PM »

Marx was strongly influenced by the liberal tradition (much more so than both his detractors and the people who claim to speak for him today would like to admit), but calling it "a part of liberalism" obviously makes no sense in light with how these currents have developed, no.
No one denies Marx was a man influenced heavily by the enlightenment, and Marxism is merely an outgrowth of these ideas, but that was only due to the heavy selling out of the mainstream establishment who had a monopoly over the marker of “liberal” in Marx’s time. Similar to how social democracy’s name and meaning shifted.

This was a more recent shift than people realize, as the anarchists in the Liberal Party of Mexico can attest to.
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2022, 05:23:06 PM »

Liberalism isn't leftist.
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2022, 04:45:59 AM »

Communism is definitionally opposed to liberalism, so no.

You could argue that the "fully automated luxury space communism" people are actually advocating for an extremely weird version of neoliberalism, but that certainly doesn't represent any historical or present communist theory or practice and I'm honestly not convinced that those people exist outside of Twitter.
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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2022, 03:43:44 AM »

You need to first define liberalism.

There is classical liberalism, which emphases on individual liberty. The opposite is collectivism. Communism is almost the polar opposite to classical liberalism.

There is social liberalism. This is (unfortunately) what "liberal" usually means nowadays. This ideology is basically to achieve social equality/justice via collectivism.
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