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  Which of the following leaders could be described as “leftist”?
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#1
Miguel Díaz-Canel (Cuba)
#2
Daniel Ortega (Nicaragua)
#3
Nicolas Maduro (Venezuela)
#4
Xi Jinping (China)
#5
Kim Jong-un (North Korea)
#6
Thongloun Sisoulith (Laos)
#7
Nguyễn Phú Trọng (Vietnam)
#8
Bashar Al-Assad (Syria)
#9
Abdelmadjid Tebboune (Algeria)
#10
João Lourenço (Angola)
#11
Alberto Fernández (Argentina)
#12
Luis Arce (Bolivia)
#13
Filipe Nyusi (Mozambique)
#14
Pedro Castillo (Peru)
#15
Joe Biden (USA)
#16
Jacinda Arden (New Zealand)
#17
Sanna Marin (Finland)
#18
Justin Trudeau (Canada)
#19
Ali Khamanei (Iran)
#20
Abiy Ahmed (Ethiopia)
#21
All of the above but no others
#22
All of the above and others
#23
None of the above but others
#24
None of the above, no leader could currently be called “leftist”
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TheReckoning
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« on: January 18, 2022, 02:14:19 AM »

Are there any genuinely leftist leaders in the world today?
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2022, 02:42:20 AM »

Politicians moving the country into a liberal democratic system, privatizing blairites:
Diaz-Canal
KJU
Bashar Al-Assad until 2011, no idea what internally is happening in Syria now that power has become decentralized between his family, the old deep state, and the militias
Joao Lourenco

Party of power privatizers, basically Democrats before Jimmy Carter:
Daniel Ortega
Luis Arce
Xi Jinping
Current Algerian PM and most African “left” state leadership

Left wing of capital:
Castillo
Euro Social democrats mentioned
Fernandez/Kirchner proxy

Not a leftist nominally, massive privatizer lol:
Khamenei

Yes, I can explain more
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2022, 04:59:07 AM »

I don’t know that I’ve ever heard Kim Jong-un described as a “Blairite”. I don’t know how to react to that at all.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2022, 07:26:52 AM »

I don’t know that I’ve ever heard Kim Jong-un described as a “Blairite”. I don’t know how to react to that at all.

Well the cult of personality is arguably not totally dissimilar Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2022, 07:43:42 AM »

Politicians moving the country into a liberal democratic system, privatizing blairites:

Bashar Al-Assad until 2011, no idea what internally is happening in Syria now that power has become decentralized between his family, the old deep state, and the militias
Ah yes, known Blairite Bashar al-Assad.
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2022, 08:16:32 AM »

holy sh*t, PSOL has been on an absolute roll lately
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2022, 08:22:22 AM »

And as for including one of the most right wing governments in the world (Iran) in this poll Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2022, 09:24:07 AM »

I don’t know that I’ve ever heard Kim Jong-un described as a “Blairite”. I don’t know how to react to that at all.

Well the cult of personality is arguably not totally dissimilar Tongue

To be fair, the assassination of Kim Jong-nam shows that he is 'tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime.' And the continued presence of Kyo-hwa-so camps are in keeping with Kim Jong-Un's slogan 'reeducation, reeducation, reeducation'.
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2022, 11:54:28 AM »

Politicians moving the country into a liberal democratic system, privatizing blairites:

Bashar Al-Assad until 2011, no idea what internally is happening in Syria now that power has become decentralized between his family, the old deep state, and the militias
Ah yes, known Blairite Bashar al-Assad.
Assad was quite literally a media darling in the 2000s in the western press for liberalization of the economy and being a western-minded ruler.

I don’t know that I’ve ever heard Kim Jong-un described as a “Blairite”. I don’t know how to react to that at all.
Privatization schemes and social liberalism that I’ve documented here in the past show that. He and his family stopped being glorified as mystical kings in official documents and he’s expanded the commercial district in North Korea considerably, along with the real shift west until internal politics prevented continued relations.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2022, 12:40:14 PM »

"When I use an ideology," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make ideologies mean so many different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master — that’s all."

Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. "They’ve a temper, some of them — particularly liberalism and conservatism, they’re the proudest — centrism you can do anything with, but not socialism — however, I can manage the whole of them! Fiscal conservatism! Social liberalism! That’s what I say!"
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2022, 07:07:19 PM »

1-3, 5, 9-14, 20 are all leftists, the others aren’t though.
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