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  After RBG’s death, Moore v Harper might kill American Democracy forever (search mode)
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« on: February 25, 2022, 12:27:05 PM »

If SCOTUS goes completely crazy, will anyone eventually do something about it?

If Democrats eventually do get to ride a backlash into power (or are able to survive until the Republican Party drops the ball some other way), they can always either 1) devolve certain things to the Circuit Courts or 2) ignore their rulings.
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2022, 03:25:02 PM »

If SCOTUS goes completely crazy, will anyone eventually do something about it?

If Democrats eventually do get to ride a backlash into power (or are able to survive until the Republican Party drops the ball some other way), they can always either 1) devolve certain things to the Circuit Courts or 2) ignore their rulings.

Democrats will inevitably return to power. Thing is that simply ignoring rulings once they get there sets a very poor precedent that will come back to bite everyone.
and we wouldn't want a supreme court that ignores its own precedent, right?

     That is what Brown v. Board of Education did and none of us would complain about that. The judiciary and executive branches have different roles to fulfill and are not governed by the same rules.

So there you have it. That's the one thing you do when then the court is illegitimate. You treat it like its illegitimate.
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2022, 08:24:16 AM »

I liken this decades long court battle to effectively two high school/college age girls having a catfight and it never getting resolved. In fact that's how politics has been in this country since maybe the 90s. In the past you would have conflict that would get really nasty - but it would be over quicker.

If the left was to go full spanish republican to the conservative legal movement - is it possible that at that point someone would come in and say "ok we're even" and both sides would come to some sort of agreement. God help us if we're still having these same sort of arguments in the 2040s.

At this rate, the agenda to should be to get the conservative judiciary painted as a fraud on the nation.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2022, 01:06:28 PM »

I liken this decades long court battle to effectively two high school/college age girls having a catfight and it never getting resolved. In fact that's how politics has been in this country since maybe the 90s. In the past you would have conflict that would get really nasty - but it would be over quicker.

If the left was to go full spanish republican to the conservative legal movement - is it possible that at that point someone would come in and say "ok we're even" and both sides would come to some sort of agreement. God help us if we're still having these same sort of arguments in the 2040s.

At this rate, the agenda to should be to get the conservative judiciary painted as a fraud on the nation.
What good would that do if SCOTUS eviscerates the VRA more, overturns Reynolds v. Sims/Wesberry v. Sanders, and implements the independent state legislature law?

well if the biden doj can find a way to indict Thomas wife on something (and given how DC juries are) - I'd like to think it would be a kind of "FA and you will FO" kind of message.

Either everyone plays by the rules or no one does.
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2022, 11:54:36 AM »

Over and over and over, these far right-wing Supreme Court Justices are threatening our democracy.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u-s-supreme-court-allows-counting-of-undated-mail-in-ballots-in-pennsylvania/ar-AAYhemZ?bk=1&ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=26a70bdfa8074d7cbcde917d2e5ef863

Look at that: preventing votes from being counted, just like in Bush v. Gore. Democracy is withering on the vine as we speak.

ERM64man's doomerism is right on target.

At the end of the day we have to ask; Are the perpetrators of this madness even, themselves, prepared for the chaos and suffering they ultimately will inflict?
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2022, 02:43:15 PM »

Over and over and over, these far right-wing Supreme Court Justices are threatening our democracy.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u-s-supreme-court-allows-counting-of-undated-mail-in-ballots-in-pennsylvania/ar-AAYhemZ?bk=1&ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=26a70bdfa8074d7cbcde917d2e5ef863

Look at that: preventing votes from being counted, just like in Bush v. Gore. Democracy is withering on the vine as we speak.

ERM64man's doomerism is right on target.

At the end of the day we have to ask; Are the perpetrators of this madness even, themselves, prepared for the chaos and suffering they ultimately will inflict?

What has happened here? Did my sarcasm go over your head, or do you intend for there to be sarcasm in your statement and it's going over my head?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acI12jO0HSQ

The was a “Yes” meme type of situation.
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2022, 01:43:24 PM »
« Edited: June 19, 2022, 01:49:29 PM by Person Man »



The chance of that is slim, but far from zero. At a certain point, it all becomes pointless.
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2022, 11:55:27 AM »



I think if the Republicans retroactively cancel the election and install themselves, then there is no point of this website any more.
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