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« on: March 16, 2023, 04:32:54 AM »

What is this new party? The "BBB"?
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2023, 09:53:44 PM »

Ipsos poll:

Vote share % and seats: (compared with the previous poll)

17.9% BBB, 28 seats (+14)
17.2% VVD, 27 (-2)
  7.8% PPV, 12 (-4)
  7.7% D66, 12 (-3)
  7.4% PvdA, 12 (+2)
  7.0% GL, 11 (+1)
  5.1% PvdD, 8 (-1)
  4.9% SP, 7 (-1)
  4.6% CDA, 7 (-2)
  4.3% JA21, 6 (-3)
  3.0% FvD, 4 (nc)
  2.9% Volt, 4 (nc)
  2.5% CU, 4 (-1)
  2.4% DENK, 3 (nc)
  2.3% SGP, 3 (nc)
  0.9% 50+, 1 (nc)
  0.8% BIJ1, 1 (nc)
  1.3% Others, 0 (nc)

Rutte government: 50 seats (-8)

Poll conducted between 24 and 27 March 2023. Polled 1,005 voters.

IIRC one needs 76 seats, so not good for Rutte. If his government falls below that can he make another deal or does this poll show someone else with a viable path to government?
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2023, 04:33:59 AM »

It would be kinda funny if the first time PVV wins an election is this utter trainwreck (although with such vote divisions perhaps it makes sense)
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2023, 05:04:24 PM »

what the f@ck Netherlands
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2023, 03:45:26 PM »

Question for those who know more about Dutch politics, but image in English speaking world is Netherlands is a fairly progressive country yet seems in almost every election, far more vote for right leaning parties than left leaning even though right wing quite diverse.  What is reason for that and is Netherlands really that progressive or is that more an image some have from just visiting Amsterdam which is quite progressive?

I get cross country comparisons bad idea but seems right in Netherlands gets more than right does in Australia, Canada, UK & US even though US has image of being a fairly right leaning country while other three mixed but generally seen by outsiders as more conservative than Netherlands.  So is image of country false, or is right different than Anglosphere thus bad comparison?

It's because the Netherlands being progressive is kinda a myth. Its even to the right of belgium. Maybe flemish voters are more right wing but the systems are more right wing.

Sure in terms of economical issues, they're far to the left of the USA. But the point is, everyone in Europe and everyone in the world is, aside of maybe Israel.

Even the far right supports universal healthcare. It's consensus. It's commonly accepted. No-one questions that. It's not even a political issue.

Universal healthcare is like slavery here. The debate is settled.

What the hell? How is Israel to the right of the US on economic issues?
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2023, 09:18:39 PM »

I know I'm a dumb American, but don't big-tent anti- (insert party here) coalitions generally seem to result in said party gaining ground? Like I know part of the reason FdI surged so much between 2018 and 2022 was because they were the only party always in the opposition.

I could easily see an anti-PVV coalition collapsing and Wilders getting 50 seats in the next election.
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2023, 07:11:32 AM »

Is it possible that a decent chunk of the larger DENK vote among young people is from pro-Palestinian white leftists?
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2023, 01:09:58 PM »



Yes!
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