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« on: January 25, 2004, 12:14:59 pm »
« edited: September 18, 2005, 06:34:24 pm by Boss Tweed »

I left Reagan out, of course.

I say Roosevelt, he was a socially-oriented progressive.  In other words, a border-line socialist.
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2004, 12:41:21 pm »

I guess TR was the most liberal *for his time*.  Nixon was the most liberal ever, though not all that liberal for his time.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2004, 01:41:48 pm »

I guess TR was the most liberal *for his time*.  Nixon was the most liberal ever, though not all that liberal for his time.
Nixon was fairly liberal, but not to the level that TR was, in my mind.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2004, 01:45:50 pm »

It has to be Teddy Wink
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2004, 06:40:46 pm »

Yes, Teddy. Definitely.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2004, 06:42:29 pm »

80% think it's teddy so far.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2004, 08:28:06 am »

Nobody mentions Eisenhower.
(I voted Roosevelt too, but Ike would be second.)
Hoover and Taft might also be mentioned as at least not purely conservative.

Reagan isn't the only one you left out btw. Not that I'd advocate Harding or Coolidge as liberal.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2004, 09:56:24 am »

But liberal in a good way, in that circumstance!

Teddy, he put thousands of acres of land under protection of the Federal Government.  More so than any other President ever did.  He would definantly be the most liberal imho.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2004, 04:21:03 pm »

TR- a great environmentalist, which I like.  Plus like truman he was boss, buck stopped with him too.

Got some great TR books, I should dig them out and get you guys the titles, very very good ones.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2004, 05:19:27 pm »

TR- a great environmentalist, which I like.  Plus like truman he was boss, buck stopped with him too.

Got some great TR books, I should dig them out and get you guys the titles, very very good ones.

Are you an environmentalist, JR? Shocked
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2004, 05:58:02 pm »

TR- a great environmentalist, which I like.  Plus like truman he was boss, buck stopped with him too.

Got some great TR books, I should dig them out and get you guys the titles, very very good ones.

Are you an environmentalist, JR? Shocked
I'm in agreement with Gustaf....completely flabbergasted.

I love the word flabberghasted, it's just so cool... Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2004, 06:33:14 pm »

Would have been better if I had spelt it right, lol. Tongue

Yes, that's the case with most words... Wink
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2004, 12:51:22 pm »

Would have been better if I had spelt it right, lol. Tongue

Yes, that's the case with most words... Wink
NEWMAN!!!
I was right the first time!
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/flabbergasted.html

I did spell it right!

Ehhh...no comment... Sad
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2004, 05:59:35 pm »

I don't think Gustaf watch Seinfeld, Mr. Fresh
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2004, 06:32:32 pm »

I don't think Gustaf watch Seinfeld, Mr. Fresh

Not regularly, no. I would like to, but it's seldom on at a good time.
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2004, 06:32:35 pm »

I voted for Nixon. How in the hell can anyone vote for Teddy Roosevelt as a liberal??? His foreign policy was wayyyy to the right wing which more than offset his fascination with the environment and his anti-big business credentials. Teddy as a liberal??? Not with that expansionist foreign policy.
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2004, 06:36:42 pm »

I voted for Nixon. How in the hell can anyone vote for Teddy Roosevelt as a liberal??? His foreign policy was wayyyy to the right wing which more than offset his fascination with the environment and his anti-big business credentials. Teddy as a liberal??? Not with that expansionist foreign policy.

You do now that Republicans were anti-interventionist and isolationists for great parts of hte last century, and that the whole aggressive neo-conservatism is largly a product of 9/11?
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2004, 06:56:07 pm »

I don't think Gustaf watch Seinfeld, Mr. Fresh

Ya, sometimes I don't even realize I say or type Newman.

I'm kind of lost...
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2004, 06:57:12 pm »

Gustaf,

I am using the modern definition of "Liberal" which is very different than the historical defintion of the word. And under the modern definition, TR is not a liberal.

As for the "isolationist" statement you made, you are partially correct. The Republican Party was isolationist from the post-Teddy Roosevelt era into World War II.

However, if you think an aggressive foreign policy is strictly a post 9/11 invention of neo-conservatives, then I guess you missed Ronald Reagan's 8 years in office or the Presidency of the first George Bush. Or I guess you missed dedicated Cold Warriors like Eisenhower, Nixon and Ford...not to mention Kennedy who may as well have been a Republican and probably would be if he were alive today.
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2004, 07:02:04 pm »

Gustaf,

I am using the modern definition of "Liberal" which is very different than the historical defintion of the word. And under the modern definition, TR is not a liberal.

As for the "isolationist" statement you made, you are partially correct. The Republican Party was isolationist from the post-Teddy Roosevelt era into World War II.

However, if you think an aggressive foreign policy is strictly a post 9/11 invention of neo-conservatives, then I guess you missed Ronald Reagan's 8 years in office or the Presidency of the first George Bush. Or I guess you missed dedicated Cold Warriors like Eisenhower, Nixon and Ford...not to mention Kennedy who may as well have been a Republican and probably would be if he were alive today.

I doubt a Kennedy would ever be a Republican...

On the issue at hand, I said for great parts, not constantly. Most American wars have been started by Democratic presidents, unless I'm mistaken. Nixon made friends with the Chinese, so I wouldn't call him aggressive. That every Cold War president worked against the Soviets is a natural fact and doesn't have much to do with aggressiveness. Bush did lead the First Gulf War, that's true, but it was a limited war, fought to protect American oil interests, not a sign of a coherent foreign policy. GWB took a clear stand against nation building before 9/11.
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2004, 07:25:50 pm »

Kennedy would still be a democrat to this day.
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2004, 08:37:28 pm »

Hello Jerry..
Hello....newman...
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2004, 03:46:59 am »

I have nothing to add...besides,  should probably start to watch Seinfeld... Wink
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2004, 07:32:23 am »

I have nothing to add...besides,  should probably start to watch Seinfeld... Wink
Yes, you should.  Seinfeld is the undisputed number one sitcom in TV history.  Here are my top five:

1. Seinfeld
2. I Love Lucy
3. All in the Family
4. Sanford + Son
5. The Honeymooners

Sanford and Son is up there not because of the quality of the show, but because how groundbreaking it was for black television.
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2004, 09:40:42 am »

I wasn't going on my opinion, I was going with a combination of public opinion and the impact of the show.
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