There's NEVER a COVID pandemic. What changes, in US and world?
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« on: December 28, 2021, 02:53:44 AM »

There's NEVER a COVID pandemic. What changes, in US and world?
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2022, 02:29:06 PM »

Never EVER?

Broken record here, but the likelihood for war with Iran increases.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2022, 12:13:07 PM »

There wouldn't have been a recession in 2020, meaning that we'd likely be experiencing a record 12 years of straight growth after the GFC.

George Floyd is maybe never murdered, and if he is it captures way less attention and doesn't spark as many riots/protests as IRL.

2020 election turnout is still historically high, although lower than observed IRL because of less mail-in voting.

Obviously there are thousands upon thousands of other differences between ours and a pandemic-free world, but that's what jumps out at me immediately.

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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2022, 07:40:11 AM »

There wouldn't have been a recession in 2020, meaning that we'd likely be experiencing a record 12 years of straight growth after the GFC.

George Floyd is maybe never murdered, and if he is it captures way less attention and doesn't spark as many riots/protests as IRL.

2020 election turnout is still historically high, although lower than observed IRL because of less mail-in voting.

Obviously there are thousands upon thousands of other differences between ours and a pandemic-free world, but that's what jumps out at me immediately.


Is Trump still President?
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2022, 12:14:00 PM »

There wouldn't have been a recession in 2020, meaning that we'd likely be experiencing a record 12 years of straight growth after the GFC.

George Floyd is maybe never murdered, and if he is it captures way less attention and doesn't spark as many riots/protests as IRL.

2020 election turnout is still historically high, although lower than observed IRL because of less mail-in voting.

Obviously there are thousands upon thousands of other differences between ours and a pandemic-free world, but that's what jumps out at me immediately.


Is Trump still President?

Almost surely.  Given recent polling error, he was headed for a narrow PV win before COVID.
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2022, 08:57:42 PM »

Trump is probably still President of the United States.
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2022, 06:49:08 PM »

Agree with those who say Trump may still be in the White House. A lot of major differences if this happened, of course.
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2022, 12:48:12 AM »

Biden probably isn't the Democratic nominee.

I actually think COVID helped Trump just as much as it hurt him, quite frankly. He was hurt by being completely incompetent, but being an incumbent probably netted him votes he wouldn't have otherwise won.

My guess is one of Klobuchar/Warren/Buttigeig/Sanders wins the nomination and narrowly defeats Trump, however Republicans flip the House and hold the Senate, and in fact gain a seat or two.
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2022, 05:53:41 AM »

Trump is probably still President of the United States.
How would the polls look for 2022?
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2022, 05:28:45 PM »

Trump is probably still President of the United States.
How would the polls look for 2022?

The Democrats would likely be heading toward a blue wave win across the board which ends up being their biggest since 1974.
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2022, 09:53:23 PM »

It would be interesting if COVID and Monkeypox were switched, with Monkeypox occurring in early 2020 and COVID being delayed until May of 2022.
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2022, 03:39:58 AM »

Biden probably isn't the Democratic nominee.

I actually think COVID helped Trump just as much as it hurt him, quite frankly. He was hurt by being completely incompetent, but being an incumbent probably netted him votes he wouldn't have otherwise won.

My guess is one of Klobuchar/Warren/Buttigeig/Sanders wins the nomination and narrowly defeats Trump, however Republicans flip the House and hold the Senate, and in fact gain a seat or two.

Most people vote based on the economy. Although Trump was pushing bad economics through his high tariffs and large budget deficits, we got a good look with Covid at just how much the deficit could increase before it started to become inflationary.

The United States was beginning to benefit at all levels of the good economic times prior to Covid, as even the people in the lowest quintile were getting jobs and wage increases. The last time that happened was in the mid/late 1990s and Clinton was reelected in a semi landslide. 

Trump would have campaigned on 'whatever you think of my behavior, I've brought peace and prosperity' and likely would have been comfortably reelected.
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