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« on: December 20, 2021, 07:03:31 PM »

I have no problem with atheism although I do not consider myself as such. People who are actively anti-religion are pretty annoying though. Even Richard Dawkins who is a quite intelligent and interesting thinker can get pretty lazy and cringe when it comes to critiquing religion.
Not to mention he has become a grumpy reactionary these days with a unhealthy obsession with Muslims migrants and Trans people

I would not call Dawkins reactionary, the man is just not a fan of the crazed SJW movement. It's a thing with many rational people right now, where they're seeing the religious cult being replaced with the secular cult of cancel culture effecting even sensible liberals. If you think this is being made up read Jeremy Coyne blog post which address the strangle hold the Regressive Left has done to diminish any dissenting viewpoint that is not popular with the woke crowd.

https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2021/02/11/cancel-culture-alive-and-well/
https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2020/12/02/is-cancel-culture-coming-for-you/
You mean the “sensible liberal” position of “Muslims should be banned from entering Europe because the concept of democracy is impossible to comprehend and thus they are a fundamental threat to our way of life”?

Not to take away the Muslims away from their religion, what I feel Dawkins is doing justifiable is not backing down on the backward nature of the Islam religion, because liberals/leftists should ought to be more aggressive about the problematic tenants than acting it's just hick Christians who have it wrong. Women and gay people are far more oppressed in the Islamic faith that it would make Pat Robinson seem like a bleeding heart liberal. The way of Islam is different from the moderate West,  which one can see in how technological advance our nations are compared to the Middle East, which most of the region is straight out of the 1930s.  What we need to see is not banned the religion outright or make it inaccessible for Muslims of entering the country, but we do need a mandate on the extremist who are a national threat to the well-being of all citizens of the world. Our government should let the sensible Muslims into the nation if they want to escape. What we don't need are a group of radicals who are threatening the humanist way of living.

As I have said here before, there is no real fundamental difference between Muslim-bashing over "islamogauchisme" fearmongering and this warmed-over Pim Fortuyn-type Muslim-bashing. Both are expressions of a sort of bigotry that people like you vociferously deny in your aim to appear Supremely Rational (when we are not fundamentally rational beings) but cannot escape. You surely must also recognize how much of the "backwards" nature of the Islamic world that you deplore, insofar as it actually exists outside of the mind of those with agendas to push, is the result of a long tradition of the Enlightened Rational Secular Western Powers meddling there.

Anyway, the Freedom from Religion Foundation represents exactly the sort of smug sophistry that we should've left in the Bush era. The evangelical right wing in this country is not an singular institution that can be neutralized through litigious assholery and one-liners. Atheists, contrary to their belief, are not a virulently oppressed people in this part of the world and should not claim the victim mentality, especially compared to the religious minorities that you were justifying bigotry against above.

And yeah, as a trans person that sours my opinion on Dawkins and much of his cohort as well.
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