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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2022, 02:35:22 PM »
« edited: April 24, 2022, 02:40:08 PM by Storr »

65% counted - 21:30

GS:   33.24% -  41 seats
SDS: 24.90 % - 31 seats
NSi:  7.11 % -   8 seats
SD:  6.66% -     8 seats

Levice:  3.90 %
LMŠ:     3.67 %
PoS:      3.48 %
Resnica: 2.90 %
SAB:      2.46 %
ND:       1.72 %
SNS:     1.65 %
Vesna:   1.26 %
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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2022, 02:55:34 PM »

What's Robert Golob's stance on giving tanks to Ukraine in exchange for German Marder infantry fighting vehicles? Kind of relevant question because the prospective deal was only previously discussed with the Jansa government, I suppose.
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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2022, 02:55:57 PM »

What's Golob's position on Ukraine? As detestable a character as Jansa is, he was one of Ukraine's fiercest ally (one of the first three leaders to visit Kyiv back when Russian soldiers were still a few kilometers away). I hope Golob will continue that policy.


What's Robert Golob's stance on giving tanks to Ukraine in exchange for German Marder infantry fighting vehicles? Kind of relevant question because the prospective deal was only previously discussed with the Jansa government, I suppose.

Edit: lol, I made this post before I saw yours, but I see it's a common question. Cheesy
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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2022, 02:56:27 PM »

Levica reaches the 4% threshold.
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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2022, 02:58:04 PM »

Threshold electoral massacre, approaching  Poland 1993 if Levica doesn't make it in. At least it looks like the parties that won't win seats aren't just from one side of the spectrum.
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« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2022, 03:04:11 PM »


When you lose behind tru.th. That's not a party that's a website scam!
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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2022, 04:07:37 PM »
« Edited: April 24, 2022, 04:22:28 PM by Storr »

98.47% counted - 23:20

2018 turnout: 901,454 votes -    52.63%
2022 turnout: 1,143,091 votes - 68.40%

GS:      34.37% -  40 seats
SDS:    23.80 % - 28 seats
NSi:     6.91 % -   8 seats
SD:      6.65% -    7 seats
Levica: 4.22 % -   5 seats

LMŠ:     3.72 %
PoS:      3.46 %
Resnica: 2.89 %
SAB:      2.58 %
Pirati:    1.61%
ND:       1.52 %
SNS:     1.51 %
Vesna:   1.32 %
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« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2022, 04:43:56 PM »

Why did turnout increase so much?
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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2022, 06:19:49 PM »
« Edited: April 24, 2022, 06:26:06 PM by Storr »

98.47% counted - 23:20

2018 turnout: 901,454 votes -    52.63%
2022 turnout: 1,143,091 votes - 68.40%

GS:      34.37% -  40 seats
SDS:    23.80 % - 28 seats
NSi:     6.91 % -   8 seats
SD:      6.65% -    7 seats
Levica: 4.22 % -   5 seats

LMŠ:     3.72 %
PoS:      3.46 %
Resnica: 2.89 %
SAB:      2.58 %
Pirati:    1.61%
ND:       1.52 %
SNS:     1.51 %
Vesna:   1.32 %

GS snagged one more seat from SDS, nice:

99.68% counted - 00:15

2018 turnout: 901,454 votes -    52.63%
2022 turnout: 1,179,292 votes - 69.71%

GS:      34.54% -  403,663 votes - 41 seats
SDS:    23.53 % - 274,934 votes - 27 seats
NSi:     6.85 % -   80,089 votes  -  8 seats
SD:      6.65% -    77,741 votes  -  7 seats
Levica: 4.38 % -   51,202 votes  -  5 seats

threshold: 4.00% - 47,172 votes

LMŠ:        3.72 % - 43,463 votes
PoS:         3.42 % - 40,006 votes
Resnica:   2.87 % - 33,524 votes
SAB:        2.60 % - 30,428 votes
ZD:         1.76% -  20,610 votes
DD:         1.70% -  19,832 votes
Pirati:      1.64% -  19,107 votes
ND:         1.51 % - 17,616 votes
SNS:       1.50 % - 17,481 votes
Vesna:    1.33 % - 15,531 votes
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« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2022, 06:39:37 PM »

Why did turnout increase so much?

I'm not much in tune with Slovenian politics, but from what I've read, Janša has become a toxic and authoritarian figure in the country and a large portion of the electorate just can't stand him anymore. So, many voters maybe decided to cast a ballot in order to oust him for good and concentrated their votes in GS.

That's my take. But, someone with more knowledge in Slovenia could also comment.
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« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2022, 07:14:58 PM »

Why did turnout increase so much?

I'm not much in tune with Slovenian politics, but from what I've read, Janša has become a toxic and authoritarian figure in the country and a large portion of the electorate just can't stand him anymore. So, many voters maybe decided to cast a ballot in order to oust him for good and concentrated their votes in GS.

That's my take. But, someone with more knowledge in Slovenia could also comment.
Thank you, that's what I suspected as well. Very US 2020.
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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2022, 08:10:57 PM »

Who votes for SDS, given how strangely stable their support base is? (or for some of the longer-lived parties like SD or NSi, or the centrist blob du jour)
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« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2022, 08:09:29 AM »

What's Golob's position on Ukraine? As detestable a character as Jansa is, he was one of Ukraine's fiercest ally (one of the first three leaders to visit Kyiv back when Russian soldiers were still a few kilometers away). I hope Golob will continue that policy.


What's Robert Golob's stance on giving tanks to Ukraine in exchange for German Marder infantry fighting vehicles? Kind of relevant question because the prospective deal was only previously discussed with the Jansa government, I suppose.

Edit: lol, I made this post before I saw yours, but I see it's a common question. Cheesy

Still looking for an answer to this.
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« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2022, 02:08:49 PM »

What's Golob's position on Ukraine? As detestable a character as Jansa is, he was one of Ukraine's fiercest ally (one of the first three leaders to visit Kyiv back when Russian soldiers were still a few kilometers away). I hope Golob will continue that policy.


What's Robert Golob's stance on giving tanks to Ukraine in exchange for German Marder infantry fighting vehicles? Kind of relevant question because the prospective deal was only previously discussed with the Jansa government, I suppose.

Edit: lol, I made this post before I saw yours, but I see it's a common question. Cheesy

Still looking for an answer to this.
The whole political spectrum condemned the Russian aggression in Ukraine, while NSi has always had very strong pro-Western stances, Janša's move to visit Kyiv might have just been political opportunism to gain some political points. The opposition's position on Ukraine seemed less enthusiastically in favor, although it doesn't seem like they have a strong "Russia problem". SD's more about yugo-nostalgia. From what I was told Golob's election might mean that Ukraine might not receive any more heavy weapons, but a lot is unpredictable since Golob is an absolute newcomer and - albeit a centerish to center-left - populist.

Golob also stated he intends to form a coalition with SD and might let Levica join, although I doubt they'll have appetite to join a government after this result. He also announced that he might invite LMŠ and SAB members to the cabinet (perhaps in Undersecretary positions, Janša did so as well with SLS and NSLS in the last government).
Fun fact btw: Slovenian cabinet members have to get confirmed by their respective committees, similarly to the US Senate committees confirming nominations of Cabinet members. Wikipedia has a good overview over the nomination process of the outgoing cabinet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Government_of_Slovenia
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« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2022, 05:03:46 PM »

Based.
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« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2022, 09:14:36 AM »
« Edited: May 01, 2022, 11:59:26 AM by Storr »

More or less final results:

99.98% counted - 09:20 26/04/2022

2018 turnout: 901,454 votes -    52.63%
2022 turnout: 1,188,764 votes - 70.05% !!

GS:      34.53% -  406,761 votes - 41 seats
SDS:    23.52 % - 277,094 votes - 27 seats
NSi:     6.86 % -   80,757 votes  -  8 seats
SD:      6.66% -    78,393 votes  -  7 seats
Levica: 4.39 % -   51,662 votes  -  5 seats

threshold: 4.00% - 47,551 votes

LMŠ:        3.73 % - 43,885 votes
PoS:         3.42 % - 40,270 votes
Resnica:   2.86 % - 33,680 votes
SAB:        2.61 % - 30,773 votes
ZD:         1.76% -  20,784 votes
DD:         1.70% -  19,978 votes
Pirati:      1.63% -  19,196 votes
ND:         1.50 % - 17,724 votes
SNS:       1.49 % - 17,606 votes
Vesna:     1.33 % - 15,661 votes
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« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2022, 09:31:26 PM »

I’m getting word that even with Levice entering into an unstable government and moderating their tone to get rid of demands for workplace democracy a la a modified Tito-style economy, they also pushed aside more radical components and turned it into a clique surrounded by the dumb twink.

Great, just like Portugal’s and Chile’s communists getting thrashed when they had the momentum, moderation and opportunism from the right cliques ruined the chances for another goddamn gain for the workers movement.
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« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2022, 06:58:16 AM »

I’m getting word that even with Levice entering into an unstable government and moderating their tone to get rid of demands for workplace democracy a la a modified Tito-style economy, they also pushed aside more radical components and turned it into a clique surrounded by the dumb twink.

Great, just like Portugal’s and Chile’s communists getting thrashed when they had the momentum, moderation and opportunism from the right cliques ruined the chances for another goddamn gain for the workers movement.

Yes, if only a party with 5 seats that aren't even necessary for a parliamentary majority hadn't abandoned its maximalist platform, I'm sure Slovenia would have become a glorious socialist republic in no time. Roll Eyes

Tbh I'd rather Levica play hardball and refuse to participate, but that's because their foreign policy is awful and we need a government that stands strongly with Ukraine.
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« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2022, 12:35:18 PM »

Some good analysis here.
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« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2022, 01:10:28 PM »

What's Golob's position on Ukraine? As detestable a character as Jansa is, he was one of Ukraine's fiercest ally (one of the first three leaders to visit Kyiv back when Russian soldiers were still a few kilometers away). I hope Golob will continue that policy.


What's Robert Golob's stance on giving tanks to Ukraine in exchange for German Marder infantry fighting vehicles? Kind of relevant question because the prospective deal was only previously discussed with the Jansa government, I suppose.

Edit: lol, I made this post before I saw yours, but I see it's a common question. Cheesy

Still looking for an answer to this.
I read a German interview with a PolSci professor who stated the following about Janša & Ukraine btw (paywalled):

"Janša was praised for being one of the first heads of governments to visit Ukraine. Will the new government also stand behind Ukraine as vocally?

I wouldn't expect many differences. Public opinion is quite unanimous in Slovenia when it comes to Ukraine. Janša's step to visit Kyiv was mostly seen as publicity stunt in Slovenia in order to campaign. One should take note of the fact that Milorad Dodik, Serb Member of the Bosnian Presidency and one of the most pro-Russian politicians in the region, clearly endorsed Janša before the election. You might ask yourself: What does the pro-Ukraine stance of Janša actually mean, if he is praised by Dodik and has a good relationship with him?!"

Source: https://www.cicero.de/aussenpolitik/golob-parlamentswahl-slowenen-premierminister-jansa-bieber-interview
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« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2022, 01:22:49 PM »

Also, jinxed, lmao:

Slovenia's incumbent government, led by right-wing nationalist conservative PM (the one who congratulated Trump) Janez Janša, lost its majority and might face a no-confidence vote.

All the government changes in the last 15 years (Parties: SDS - national conservative, SD - social democratic, NSi - christian democrat, LDS - liberal, Zares - liberal, GVL - liberal, PS - liberal, SMC - liberal, SAB - liberal, LMŠ - liberal, DeSUS - Pensioners' interests, SLS - conservative, SNS - nationalist, Levica - left). 
Why?

Late, but most of those are personalist parties based around a single person, at least the ones that ran in 2018. The parties that contested the 2018 election of those include:

SMC: Modern Centre Party; but formerly called "Party of Milo Cerar"
SAB: Party of Alenka Bratušek, formerly the Alliance of Alenka Bratušek
LMS: List of Marjan Šarec

Yeah, same goes for Positive Slovenia (PS), that was a personality cult around Ljubljana Mayor Zoran Janković and GVL (Gregor Virant's List).

Most of those parties usually get slaughtered after one or two parliamentary terms (Zares, GVL, PS were wiped out after one term in Parliament, SMC is set to disappear after two), we'll yet have to see what happens to LMS and SAB.
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« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2022, 04:39:08 PM »

Who votes for SDS, given how strangely stable their support base is? (or for some of the longer-lived parties like SD or NSi, or the centrist blob du jour)

I'd still be interested in an answer to this Wink
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« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2022, 08:55:09 AM »

So how is the Presidential race looking???
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« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2022, 09:36:23 AM »

New government:

GS (41), SD (7), Levica (5)
53/90 seats in parliament





The two liberal party leaders that have not made it to parliament, Alenka Bratušek and Marjan Šarec, both former prime ministers, will get cabinet posts as well, respectively serving as ministers of infrastructure and defence.
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/short_news/incoming-slovenian-government-finalises-coalition-agreement-cabinet-line-up/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15th_Government_of_Slovenia
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« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2022, 02:49:02 PM »

You can't keep down the mighty Alenka Bratusek.
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