DOJ SUES TX OVER REDISTRICTING

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-files-lawsuit-against-state-texas-protect-voting-rights

Good luck with that with a 6/3 CONSERVATIVE Crt without VR

5/4 without Roberts, did they see how the Crt was going in Abortion

[Indy Texas]

Given the timeframe, it's too late for this to have any impact on the 2022 elections. The primary filing period ends next Monday and our primaries are in March.

Best case scenario would be some court-redrawn maps for 2024.

[Schiff for Senate]

I miss when the southern states needed to have their congressional maps pre-approved by the DOJ.

[Suburbia]

Texas will secede by 2023.

Period.

[Yoda]

Texas will secede by 2023.

Period.

That would be a boon for the rest of the country, and would make it very, very unlikely a republican could win the EC.

We're not that lucky.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Texas will secede by 2023.

Period.

I hope so!

Losing Ted Cruz makes it worth it just by itself.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Has this ever happened before?  Reapportionment is very much a "political question" so why is the DOJ involved at all?

[THG]

Garland and the DOJ can and will get righteously screwed in court.

And if you support this bogus lawsuit but are fine with Illinois or Dem gerrymandering, f**k you and any opinions you may hold.

[BoiseBoy]

Garland and the DOJ can get righteously screwed in court.

The maps suck and need to be redrawn. You cannot justify that Dallas configuration in any way. You just can't.

[THG]

Garland and the DOJ can get righteously screwed in court.

The maps suck and need to be redrawn. You cannot justify that Dallas configuration in any way. You just can't.

The maps need to be redrawn to be 27-11 in favor of Republicans. Make the RGV even redder and shore up Republican incumbents more.

Also you can justify the Dallas configuration, and my justification for it is that I don’t hear such sanctimonious whining about Illinois or other Democratic states.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Garland and the DOJ can and will get righteously screwed in court.

And if you support this bogus lawsuit but are fine with Illinois or Dem gerrymandering, f**k you and any opinions you may hold.

Most red avatars here on on record that the Illinois gerrymandering is bad so…..

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

The maps suck. The maps are legal. This is not contradictory.
There's no grounds to strike down the maps. Yet. If any redrawing is to be done, then the place for it is the RGV, where the GOP might take a seat away from the preferred candidate of choice for the Latino community. But elsewhere I'm hard-pressed to find a good enough case.
"The maps suck" is not necessarily grounds to decree it illegal. I personally find the Illinois map wonderful, and the Texas map awful. But both are legal.

[THG]

I really want to witness cope on here when NC passes an 11-3, KY and TN get rid of the Yarmuth/Cooper sinks respectively, and when FL passes a 19-9 or a 20-8. It shall be utterly glorious.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The SCOTUS is the nemesis, they already said that gerrymandering Districts are okay without VR they will affirm the map, Sinema and Manchin are silly to keep the Filibuster

[TheReckoning]

We need to pass some kind of anti-gerrymandering law. I prefer having a computer draw districts based on compactness while following county borders.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I really want to witness cope on here when NC passes an 11-3, KY and TN get rid of the Yarmuth/Cooper sinks respectively, and when FL passes a 19-9 or a 20-8. It shall be utterly glorious.

I don't see 20-8 happening any time soon. Fair Districts Amendment makes it too costly for Rs to go for something that lopsided. And they know that.
If they pass a map in violation of that, then they end up with a court map. John Mica and Illeana-Ros Lehtinen ended up leaving Congress because of that redraw.
GOP Congressman don't want the risk of a court map that could disrupt their seats and leave them in danger in a primary or a general.

[TheReckoning]

The SCOTUS is the nemesis, they already said that gerrymandering Districts are okay without VR they will affirm the map, Sinema and Manchin are silly to keep the Filibuster

Would you ever consider running for political office in order to promote crt PACKING?

[THG]

I really want to witness cope on here when NC passes an 11-3, KY and TN get rid of the Yarmuth/Cooper sinks respectively, and when FL passes a 19-9 or a 20-8. It shall be utterly glorious.

I don't see 20-8 happening any time soon. Fair Districts Amendment makes it too costly for Rs to go for something that lopsided. And they know that.
If they pass a map in violation of that, then they end up with a court map. John Mica and Illeana-Ros Lehtinen ended up leaving Congress because of that redraw.
GOP Congressman don't want the risk of a court map that could disrupt their seats and leave them in danger in a primary or a general.

The FL Supreme Court is now 7-0 Republican in contrast to being a Democratic one back when the horrendous Dem gerrymander of a “court map” was drawn in 2015, so this isn’t as good of an argument as you believe.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I really want to witness cope on here when NC passes an 11-3, KY and TN get rid of the Yarmuth/Cooper sinks respectively, and when FL passes a 19-9 or a 20-8. It shall be utterly glorious.

I don't see 20-8 happening any time soon. Fair Districts Amendment makes it too costly for Rs to go for something that lopsided. And they know that.
If they pass a map in violation of that, then they end up with a court map. John Mica and Illeana-Ros Lehtinen ended up leaving Congress because of that redraw.
GOP Congressman don't want the risk of a court map that could disrupt their seats and leave them in danger in a primary or a general.

The FL Supreme Court is now 7-0 Republican in contrast to being a Democratic one back when the horrendous Dem gerrymander of a “court map” was drawn in 2015, so this isn’t as good of an argument as you believe.

Well, GOP members of Congress clearly think that not even a 7-0 conservative court would rubberstamp a TX-style gerrymander in the Sunshine State. Even if they weren't of this view, the FL legislature clearly holds to it. Otherwise they would have gone with bolder maps.

[THG]

I really want to witness cope on here when NC passes an 11-3, KY and TN get rid of the Yarmuth/Cooper sinks respectively, and when FL passes a 19-9 or a 20-8. It shall be utterly glorious.

I don't see 20-8 happening any time soon. Fair Districts Amendment makes it too costly for Rs to go for something that lopsided. And they know that.
If they pass a map in violation of that, then they end up with a court map. John Mica and Illeana-Ros Lehtinen ended up leaving Congress because of that redraw.
GOP Congressman don't want the risk of a court map that could disrupt their seats and leave them in danger in a primary or a general.

The FL Supreme Court is now 7-0 Republican in contrast to being a Democratic one back when the horrendous Dem gerrymander of a “court map” was drawn in 2015, so this isn’t as good of an argument as you believe.

Well, GOP members of Congress clearly think that not even a 7-0 conservative court would rubberstamp a TX-style gerrymander in the Sunshine State. Even if they did, the FL legislature clearly doesn't. Otherwise they would have gone with bolder maps.

A 19-9 seems pretty likely, and I wouldn’t take literal staff drawn maps seriously at all.

[emailking]

Garland and the DOJ can and will get righteously screwed in court.

And if you support this bogus lawsuit but are fine with Illinois or Dem gerrymandering, f**k you and any opinions you may hold.

How about no gerrymandering at all? That's what I want.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I really want to witness cope on here when NC passes an 11-3, KY and TN get rid of the Yarmuth/Cooper sinks respectively, and when FL passes a 19-9 or a 20-8. It shall be utterly glorious.

I don't see 20-8 happening any time soon. Fair Districts Amendment makes it too costly for Rs to go for something that lopsided. And they know that.
If they pass a map in violation of that, then they end up with a court map. John Mica and Illeana-Ros Lehtinen ended up leaving Congress because of that redraw.
GOP Congressman don't want the risk of a court map that could disrupt their seats and leave them in danger in a primary or a general.

The FL Supreme Court is now 7-0 Republican in contrast to being a Democratic one back when the horrendous Dem gerrymander of a “court map” was drawn in 2015, so this isn’t as good of an argument as you believe.

Well, GOP members of Congress clearly think that not even a 7-0 conservative court would rubberstamp a TX-style gerrymander in the Sunshine State. Even if they did, the FL legislature clearly doesn't. Otherwise they would have gone with bolder maps.

A 19-9 seems pretty likely, and I wouldn’t take literal staff drawn maps seriously at all.

Well, if FL does get a 19-9 map, I'll eat crow and admit I was wrong.
But everything I've seen so far seems to show they are being cautious about all this. Unless they have some map hidden like some sort of trap card or something, that looks likely to continue. But it's not a certain thing, and I'll be the first to admit things aren't settled yet.

[Hindsight was 2020]

I really want to witness cope on here when NC passes an 11-3, KY and TN get rid of the Yarmuth/Cooper sinks respectively, and when FL passes a 19-9 or a 20-8. It shall be utterly glorious.

Killing democracy to own the libs eh?

[VBM]

Garland and the DOJ can get righteously screwed in court.

The maps suck and need to be redrawn. You cannot justify that Dallas configuration in any way. You just can't.

The maps need to be redrawn to be 27-11 in favor of Republicans. Make the RGV even redder and shore up Republican incumbents more.

Also you can justify the Dallas configuration, and my justification for it is that I don’t hear such sanctimonious whining about Illinois or other Democratic states.

Are you trying to become the worst blue avatar?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Garland and the DOJ can get righteously screwed in court.

The maps suck and need to be redrawn. You cannot justify that Dallas configuration in any way. You just can't.

The maps need to be redrawn to be 27-11 in favor of Republicans. Make the RGV even redder and shore up Republican incumbents more.

Also you can justify the Dallas configuration, and my justification for it is that I don’t hear such sanctimonious whining about Illinois or other Democratic states.

That's a pretty unusual legal argument. But as far as I know the Voting Rights Act has no provision that states that violations of it are OK as long as there isn't as much complaints about maps in different states.