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« on: December 03, 2021, 10:40:11 PM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/02/world/americas/marci-submarine-espionage.html

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A judge in Argentina has charged the former president, Mauricio Macri, with ordering illegal surveillance on relatives of sailors who died in a 2017 submarine accident.

In a 171-page indictment issued on Wednesday, Judge Martín Bava wrote that there was enough evidence to put Mr. Macri, 62, on trial, arguing that he was ultimately responsible for espionage targeting family members of the 44 crew members who died aboard the Navy submarine, the San Juan.

Mr. Bava also barred Mr. Macri from leaving Argentina and ordered that assets of Mr. Macri that are worth nearly $1 million be frozen. If convicted, Mr. Macri could face up to 10 years in prison.
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2021, 11:12:59 AM »

More fun and games in the world's biggest failed state (the US and Russia aren't quite there yet)
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2021, 01:14:29 PM »
« Edited: December 04, 2021, 01:21:15 PM by Lord Halifax »

More fun and games in the world's biggest failed state (the US and Russia aren't quite there yet)

Surely DRC is the world's biggest failed state, or arguably Ethiopia. Or do you only go by territory? That would be a bit odd.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2021, 07:53:23 AM »

I was thinking more of developed countries tbh.

Argentina isn't actually a failed state in reality, but its certainly a bit close for comfort.

Can't be many places that have more underachieved in the past century, given their potential.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2021, 09:44:35 AM »

Almost 40 years ago they tried to steal land that the people living there didn’t want them to take. See also the whinging by the Comoros over Mayotte.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2021, 11:47:47 AM »

Macri has only 1m in assets???
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2021, 05:45:13 PM »
« Edited: December 05, 2021, 06:16:14 PM by Alex »


Pretty much all politicians in Argentina severely underestimate their total wealth, largely for tax reasons, through legal and not-so-legal ways, which is "assisted" by the country's unstable economy (as high inflation and sudden currency devaluations can make it quite hard to accurately estimate how much your wealth rose or decreased over time)

Common tactics include using the "tax value" for real estate and vehicles, which is often ridiculously low compared to the market value, to shadier ways like pretend donations and using shell societies and front men (a favorite of the Kirchners)

And Macri's latest (afaik) declaración jurada is from less than a year after Franco Macri's death, which means that Mauricio likely hasn't yet legally inherited his portion of his father's wealth, which was estimated as a whole at around 500M USD, and as it was very shortly after leaving the presidency it doesn't disclose how much Macri had in his blind trust

As an example of how ridiculous this kind of underestimation can go, Macri's fairly high (but definitely a lot lower than you'd expect for the son of the owner of a pretty large holding company) 4.7 M dollar wealth (as taken in Jan 2020 dollars) was higher than Alberto and Cristina Fernandez's and their whole cabinet combined. As Cristina's own wealth is officially of only 12.4 million pesos (or around 150,000 dollars (lol) according to her own declaración jurada, despite unofficially owning at least one 1-million-dollar apartment and like 5 hotels, owned legally by front men or shell societies , as she "donated" 26 properties (officially valued at around 5M dollars, or 75M pesos) or  to her children all the way back in 2016
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2021, 06:04:46 PM »

Do you mean shell companies?
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2021, 06:16:53 PM »

yes
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2021, 06:25:31 PM »

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If convicted, Mr. Macri could face up to 10 years in prison.

Assuming he does actually end up getting convicted (which is a big if, given how weak the case is), it'll be many years before that happens, and then he'll probably get the Amado Boudou treatment and just do a couple years of house arrest.
Politicians don't go to jail in this country.
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