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« on: November 23, 2021, 07:30:47 AM »
« edited: November 23, 2021, 07:36:45 AM by Forumlurker »

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-release-50-mln-barrels-oil-emergency-reserve-white-house-2021-11-23/

https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/biden-orders-release-of-u-s-oil-reserves-in-challenge-to-opec

Interesting move here. I don’t honestly support it, but I get why it is being done. Also it is at least good we are doing it in coordination with other powerful countries. That at least helps us a bit against OPEC.
Will be an interesting show off, even if I personally think it will fail for us badly.

Biden basically had to push for more domestic production now, we can’t just rely on reserves in a non-crisis, that would be a terrible idea.
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2021, 07:44:49 AM »

Good bye world 😡
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2021, 07:46:09 AM »

Let's burn the Earth down!

AMERICA FIRST!
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2021, 07:46:52 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2021, 08:27:31 AM »

Correct decision.
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2021, 08:34:15 AM »

lmao
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2021, 09:20:56 AM »

It's a smart decision.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2021, 09:25:57 AM »

South Korea and Japan literally have no oil, lol.

If you actually care about the environment more than you care about politics, you would embrace high gas prices.
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2021, 09:31:38 AM »

South Korea and Japan literally have no oil, lol.

If you actually care about the environment more than you care about politics, you would embrace high gas prices.
You know which one I care about more.
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2021, 09:48:57 AM »


If it helps to keep oil prices considerably down, you mean. Otherwise, he accomplishes nothing, but getting progressives even less enthusiastic.
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2021, 11:00:18 AM »

I miss the cheap gas prices from the Orange Man presidency.
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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2021, 11:47:46 AM »


How is this a smart decision? Americans use about 20 million barrels a day. Tapping 50M of oil out of the reserves is barely going to do anything past a few weeks. All this is doing is making us less prepared for a black swan event or a similar emergency. All Joe Biden is doing this for is political gain and will do nothing to reduce long-term costs.

This is easily one of the worst moves the Biden administration has done.
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2021, 11:50:05 AM »

Tapping the oil reserves for political reasons is a really bad move. Get gas prices down, yeah, but I don’t think this is the best way to do that.
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2021, 11:51:56 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2021, 11:51:59 AM »

I miss the cheap gas prices from the Orange Man presidency.
Trump should embrace Orange Man like Obama embraced Obamacare.
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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2021, 11:52:18 AM »

The only permanent way out of this is energy nationalization.
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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2021, 11:57:22 AM »

Hmmm, where have I heard this before?
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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2021, 12:55:34 PM »

South Korea and Japan literally have no oil, lol.

If you actually care about the environment more than you care about politics, you would embrace high gas prices.

During a pandemic? No. People need help right now.
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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2021, 12:56:37 PM »


If it helps to keep oil prices considerably down, you mean. Otherwise, he accomplishes nothing, but getting progressives even less enthusiastic.

The optics are good for the people who are already disenchanted with Biden.
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« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2021, 01:02:48 PM »


How is this a smart decision? Americans use about 20 million barrels a day. Tapping 50M of oil out of the reserves is barely going to do anything past a few weeks. All this is doing is making us less prepared for a black swan event or a similar emergency. All Joe Biden is doing this for is political gain and will do nothing to reduce long-term costs.

This is easily one of the worst moves the Biden administration has done.
It at least shows he is willing to do something. I would not have done this so early, but I get the temptation. I do think we should rescue restrictions on domestic producers temporarily, but that won’t solve the issue as much as you blue avatars seem to believe. A ton of this is on OPEC, and this is a deliberate political move by OPEC. I’m glad Biden had the balls to stand up to these f**kers, but he does need to boost domestic production as well in the short term.
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« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2021, 01:12:27 PM »

I miss the cheap gas prices from the Orange Man presidency.
Trump should embrace Orange Man like Obama embraced Obamacare.
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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2021, 03:44:35 PM »



It's either Orange Man or Donald Trump. Orange Man Donald Trump sounds really lame and low-energy.
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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2021, 03:52:03 PM »


How is this a smart decision? Americans use about 20 million barrels a day. Tapping 50M of oil out of the reserves is barely going to do anything past a few weeks. All this is doing is making us less prepared for a black swan event or a similar emergency. All Joe Biden is doing this for is political gain and will do nothing to reduce long-term costs.

This is easily one of the worst moves the Biden administration has done.
It at least shows he is willing to do something. I would not have done this so early, but I get the temptation. I do think we should rescue restrictions on domestic producers temporarily, but that won’t solve the issue as much as you blue avatars seem to believe. A ton of this is on OPEC, and this is a deliberate political move by OPEC. I’m glad Biden had the balls to stand up to these f**kers, but he does need to boost domestic production as well in the short term.


Had he the balls, he'd screw with Saudis by cancelling some contracts or something.
Or... get along with Russia  Kiki

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-several-other-countries-to-tap-strategic-oil-reserve-11637669762
U.S. Joins With China, Other Nations in Tapping Oil Reserves
Bid to tame high gas prices may not yield lasting results, analysts say
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WASHINGTON—The U.S. and five other countries including China will tap their national strategic petroleum reserves in an attempt to bring down gasoline prices that have become a sore spot with motorists and a big contributor to inflation, the White House said.

The release had been anticipated for weeks as the White House grappled with how to address rising prices for gasoline, groceries and other consumer products that have clouded prospects for President Biden’s agenda.

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Wholesale crude prices on financial markets, however, rose instead of falling after Tuesday’s announcement. Mr. Biden predicted that the added supply will lead to lower prices, but analysts questioned whether government releases are big enough to cover surging demand and lead to price drops at the pump.

Even if crude prices do fall, relief for consumers may be short-lived as demand is expected to keep rising into next year as the global economy continues its recovery from the Covid-19 pandemic.

“For drivers wondering if gasoline prices will get lower … the reality is that this may not happen at all, or only with a significant lag time,” Bjørnar Tonhaugen, head of oil market research at consulting firm Rystad Energy, said in a research note.

That China works along is interesting, though. They do have the balls, actually.
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« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2021, 04:00:58 PM »


How is this a smart decision? Americans use about 20 million barrels a day. Tapping 50M of oil out of the reserves is barely going to do anything past a few weeks. All this is doing is making us less prepared for a black swan event or a similar emergency. All Joe Biden is doing this for is political gain and will do nothing to reduce long-term costs.

This is easily one of the worst moves the Biden administration has done.
It at least shows he is willing to do something. I would not have done this so early, but I get the temptation. I do think we should rescue restrictions on domestic producers temporarily, but that won’t solve the issue as much as you blue avatars seem to believe. A ton of this is on OPEC, and this is a deliberate political move by OPEC. I’m glad Biden had the balls to stand up to these f**kers, but he does need to boost domestic production as well in the short term.


Had he the balls, he'd screw with Saudis by cancelling some contracts or something.
Or... get along with Russia  Kiki

Efficacy:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-several-other-countries-to-tap-strategic-oil-reserve-11637669762
U.S. Joins With China, Other Nations in Tapping Oil Reserves
Bid to tame high gas prices may not yield lasting results, analysts say
Quote
WASHINGTON—The U.S. and five other countries including China will tap their national strategic petroleum reserves in an attempt to bring down gasoline prices that have become a sore spot with motorists and a big contributor to inflation, the White House said.

The release had been anticipated for weeks as the White House grappled with how to address rising prices for gasoline, groceries and other consumer products that have clouded prospects for President Biden’s agenda.

Quote
Wholesale crude prices on financial markets, however, rose instead of falling after Tuesday’s announcement. Mr. Biden predicted that the added supply will lead to lower prices, but analysts questioned whether government releases are big enough to cover surging demand and lead to price drops at the pump.

Even if crude prices do fall, relief for consumers may be short-lived as demand is expected to keep rising into next year as the global economy continues its recovery from the Covid-19 pandemic.

“For drivers wondering if gasoline prices will get lower … the reality is that this may not happen at all, or only with a significant lag time,” Bjørnar Tonhaugen, head of oil market research at consulting firm Rystad Energy, said in a research note.

That China works along is interesting, though. They do have the balls, actually.
China is an oil importing nation, they also probably are p**sed about OPECs games.
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« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2021, 05:20:54 PM »

The only permanent way out of this is energy nationalization.
out of what?
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