2004 User Predictions - Discussion

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

McCain is a Democrat, dont let the (R) fool you.

No, McCain should have an (E) by his name...for ego.

[© tweed]

McCain is a Democrat, dont let the (R) fool you.

McCain isn't a Democrat.  As Republican Senators go, he is probably in the middle when it comes to ideology.

Well, he is liberal for a Republican.  Lets see:

Chaffee, Snowe, collins, Specter, the guy from Oregon, and then McCaim?

[dunn]

McCain is a Democrat, dont let the (R) fool you.

No, McCain should have an (E) by his name...for ego.

lol

[12th Doctor]

McCain is a Democrat, dont let the (R) fool you.

No, McCain should have an (E) by his name...for ego.

McCain probably does have one of the biggest egos in the Seante, but he is far from the most liberal Republican.

[??????????]

Then why do you see him hanging with so many democrats? just curious.

[opebo]

Then why do you see him hanging with so many democrats? just curious.

I don't think that's because he's liberal - its because he's self serving and not very loyal to his party.

[Ben.]

The only moderate Republican who won't be either spoiled goods (McCain) or too lightweight (Giuliani) who has a shot at the GOP nomination is probably George Pataki...he's been governor of New York since 1994, could be in trouble if Spitzer runs in 06 (at this very early stage Spitzer leads amongst republicans!) so if Pataki doesn’t run in 06 and if Bush has been re-elected goes into the Administration that would place him in a powerful position to go for the GOP nomination....he'd probably be joined by Bill Owens, Bill Frist and Rick Santorum....though Santorum wouldn’t have a prayer outside of the GOP grassroots...if he where nominated which I doubt...

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Pataki is a joke at the national level.  Against Edwards in 2008 he would lose NEW YORK by 20%.

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Pataki v. Edwards is a runaway.



Edwards 426
Pataki 112

[??????????]

How about Colin Powell? I know its been said, but I believe that would be a good chance.

[© tweed]

How about Colin Powell? I know its been said, but I believe that would be a good chance.

He would be a good choice (and he would be a president I could live with), but from what I hear, his wife has full control over him.

[© tweed]

Powell would get trounced in the southern primaries though, which might make it hard for him to win the nomination.

[CTguy]

Colin Powell would never win, especially not in the south as someone else pointed out...

Lets not forget the fact that race is still a huge factor, especially in primaries when more extreme voters turn out.

1/10 voters still believe Interracial marriage should be banned...  (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-03-21-gay-marriage_x.htm)

A higher ratio in the south where most Republican primary delegates come from.  Colin Powell would have no chance of winning a Republican nomination...  and he is too conservative to win a Democratic nomination.

The country is clearly not ready for a black president because there are still too many biggots out there who don't even think interracial marriage is ok... and they tend to be older and they tend to vote more than anyone else, especially in primaries.  

But I don't mind not having Colin Powell as President, he is pathetic.  

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Colin Powell would never win, especially not in the south as someone else pointed out...

Lets not forget the fact that race is still a huge factor, especially in primaries when more extreme voters turn out.

1/10 voters still believe Interracial marriage should be banned...  (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-03-21-gay-marriage_x.htm)

A higher ratio in the south where most Republican primary delegates come from.  Colin Powell would have no chance of winning a Republican nomination...  and he is too conservative to win a Democratic nomination.

The country is clearly not ready for a black president because there are still too many biggots out there who don't even think interracial marriage is ok...  

I don't want to burst your bubble by informing you that the black community (which votes heavily Democratic) is against interracial marriage more than whites...so I won't.  Please pardon the interruption.

[opebo]

Colin Powell would never win, especially not in the south as someone else pointed out...

Lets not forget the fact that race is still a huge factor, especially in primaries when more extreme voters turn out.

1/10 voters still believe Interracial marriage should be banned...  (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-03-21-gay-marriage_x.htm)

A higher ratio in the south where most Republican primary delegates come from.  Colin Powell would have no chance of winning a Republican nomination...  and he is too conservative to win a Democratic nomination.

The country is clearly not ready for a black president because there are still too many biggots out there who don't even think interracial marriage is ok... and they tend to be older and they tend to vote more than anyone else, especially in primaries.  

But I don't mind not having Colin Powell as President, he is pathetic.  

If any Southerners would be against Powell it would have nothing to do with his race, it would be because of his insufficient Conservatism.  Though they might be suspicious of his ideologicaly purity *because* of his race, I don't think they'd mind his race in and of itself.  

[??????????]

Colin Powell would never win, especially not in the south as someone else pointed out...

Lets not forget the fact that race is still a huge factor, especially in primaries when more extreme voters turn out.

1/10 voters still believe Interracial marriage should be banned...  (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-03-21-gay-marriage_x.htm)

A higher ratio in the south where most Republican primary delegates come from.  Colin Powell would have no chance of winning a Republican nomination...  and he is too conservative to win a Democratic nomination.

The country is clearly not ready for a black president because there are still too many biggots out there who don't even think interracial marriage is ok...  

I don't want to burst your bubble by informing you that the black community (which votes heavily Democratic) is against interracial marriage more than whites...so I won't.  Please pardon the interruption.

That is very true, I know a LOT of blacks who are against  interracial marriage.

[Siege40]

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That is very true, I know a LOT of blacks who are against  interracial marriage.

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By that do you mean people who while they support the legal right for races to intermarry, they themselves have no plans to do so, and maybe go as far to not want their friends to do so, or do you mean people that want it illegal, again?

Siege40

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They would definately oppose their family members marrying outside their race. I dont think they really care if its legal or not. It's just not going to happen for them.

[??????????]

According to the Tampa Tribune these are the tossups for 2004 :




Ignore the shadings thats from my prediction map. They say the red are solid democrat and the blue are solid republican.

[dunn]

can't see it

[minionofmidas]

I couldn't ten minutes ago, but now I can.
WV is the only really strange assessment there. There are some more where I'd consider something possible (6 of them, in fact: Pennsylvania, Virginia, Tennessee, Arkansas, Louisiana, Colorado) but none of those is very probable.

[??????????]

It's so early on its very likely to change. If you notice the polls are swinging back to Bush. Kerry is being torn up and I don't think hes ready for the big leagues. The best is yet to come for him.

[© tweed]

NH and ME will trend into solidly Democratic states.
The midwest will trend GOP but will still be in play.
Virginia will trend Dem.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

NH and ME will trend into solidly Democratic states.
The midwest will trend GOP but will still be in play.
Virginia will trend Dem.

Agree's... Basically East v West IS replacing North v South

[Ben.]

NH and ME will trend into solidly Democratic states.
The midwest will trend GOP but will still be in play.
Virginia will trend Dem.

Agree's... Basically East v West IS replacing North v South

I would have thought it will be the center vs the coasts?