Russia-Ukraine war and related tensions Megathread

[bilaps]

You have been criticizing me for citing Deepstate and you’re turning around and citing Suriyak of all people?

Suriyak is highly credible source. You're just blinded by the cheerleading for Ukrainians.

[Hindsight was 2020]

You have been criticizing me for citing Deepstate and you’re turning around and citing Suriyak of all people?

Suriyak is highly credible source. You're just blinded by the cheerleading for Ukrainians.

Lol no he’s not. He treats any Russian reports as fact and has constantly had to walk them back on his maps the next day.
Like this classic from the summer
https://twitter.com/suriyakmaps/status/1685314278381830145?s=12

[bilaps]

You have been criticizing me for citing Deepstate and you’re turning around and citing Suriyak of all people?

Suriyak is highly credible source. You're just blinded by the cheerleading for Ukrainians.

Lol no he’s not. He treats any Russian reports as fact and has constantly had to walk them back on his maps the next day.

So, why he didn't show then capture of Stepove and fighting inside Berdichi? If that's what he does.

[Hindsight was 2020]

You have been criticizing me for citing Deepstate and you’re turning around and citing Suriyak of all people?

Suriyak is highly credible source. You're just blinded by the cheerleading for Ukrainians.

Lol no he’s not. He treats any Russian reports as fact and has constantly had to walk them back on his maps the next day.

So, why he didn't show then capture of Stepove and fighting inside Berdichi? If that's what he does.

Because only Crybar is going that far, he won’t stick his neck out for one report if no other vatnik will say that but his history of jumping over pro-Russian reports is evident as seen above

[bilaps]

You have been criticizing me for citing Deepstate and you’re turning around and citing Suriyak of all people?

Suriyak is highly credible source. You're just blinded by the cheerleading for Ukrainians.

Lol no he’s not. He treats any Russian reports as fact and has constantly had to walk them back on his maps the next day.

So, why he didn't show then capture of Stepove and fighting inside Berdichi? If that's what he does.

Because only Crybar is going that far, he won’t stick his neck out for one report if no other vatnik will say that but his history of jumping over pro-Russian reports is evident as seen above

You said ANY. So obviously it's not any. You're discrediting a person who was right 99% of the time, yet you depend on the likes like Višegrad, Perpetua and defmon who still can't beleive Bakhmut has fallen.

Coping mechanism for failed Ukrainian counter offensive in the south, I know.. But still..

[Hindsight was 2020]

You have been criticizing me for citing Deepstate and you’re turning around and citing Suriyak of all people?

Suriyak is highly credible source. You're just blinded by the cheerleading for Ukrainians.

Lol no he’s not. He treats any Russian reports as fact and has constantly had to walk them back on his maps the next day.

So, why he didn't show then capture of Stepove and fighting inside Berdichi? If that's what he does.

Because only Crybar is going that far, he won’t stick his neck out for one report if no other vatnik will say that but his history of jumping over pro-Russian reports is evident as seen above

You said ANY. So obviously it's not any. You're discrediting a person who was right 99% of the time, yet you depend on the likes like Višegrad, Perpetua and defmon who still can't beleive Bakhmut has fallen.

Suriyak is not right 99% of the time he constantly walks back Russian advances on his maps and worse he never owns up to them. Also Andrew and Defmon were Bakhmut doomers for months so now you’re just making stuff up due to your Russian cheerleading

[bilaps]

You have been criticizing me for citing Deepstate and you’re turning around and citing Suriyak of all people?

Suriyak is highly credible source. You're just blinded by the cheerleading for Ukrainians.

Lol no he’s not. He treats any Russian reports as fact and has constantly had to walk them back on his maps the next day.

So, why he didn't show then capture of Stepove and fighting inside Berdichi? If that's what he does.

Because only Crybar is going that far, he won’t stick his neck out for one report if no other vatnik will say that but his history of jumping over pro-Russian reports is evident as seen above

You said ANY. So obviously it's not any. You're discrediting a person who was right 99% of the time, yet you depend on the likes like Višegrad, Perpetua and defmon who still can't beleive Bakhmut has fallen.

Suriyak is not right 99% of the time he constantly walks back Russian advances on his maps and worse he never owns up to them. Also Andrew and Defmon were Bakhmut doomers for months so now you’re just making stuff up due to your Russian cheerleading

Maybe I mixed Bakhmut and Soledar for Defmon, but he essentially blocked me on twitter for pointing out politely that Soledar has fallen like days ago, and that he'll soon see for himself. So, there's that. Suriyak is pro Russian but moderately when comparing with all these hacks.

[Hindsight was 2020]

You have been criticizing me for citing Deepstate and you’re turning around and citing Suriyak of all people?

Suriyak is highly credible source. You're just blinded by the cheerleading for Ukrainians.

Lol no he’s not. He treats any Russian reports as fact and has constantly had to walk them back on his maps the next day.

So, why he didn't show then capture of Stepove and fighting inside Berdichi? If that's what he does.

Because only Crybar is going that far, he won’t stick his neck out for one report if no other vatnik will say that but his history of jumping over pro-Russian reports is evident as seen above

You said ANY. So obviously it's not any. You're discrediting a person who was right 99% of the time, yet you depend on the likes like Višegrad, Perpetua and defmon who still can't beleive Bakhmut has fallen.

Suriyak is not right 99% of the time he constantly walks back Russian advances on his maps and worse he never owns up to them. Also Andrew and Defmon were Bakhmut doomers for months so now you’re just making stuff up due to your Russian cheerleading

Maybe I mixed Bakhmut and Soledar for Defmon, but he essentially blocked me on twitter for pointing out politely that Soledar has fallen like days ago, and that he'll soon see for himself. So, there's that. Suriyak is pro Russian but moderately when comparing with all these hacks.

Lol classic 😂

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1712016615070470275

Seems like they're preparing for this to be an endless war.

This isn’t really intentional; Belgium moves at a glacial pace on almost all matters international. This is why much of the military aid from Belgium was bought by other countries, which became fed up with waiting for the Belgian government several months into the invasion.

In any case, these will be helpful for after the war even if it is over by 2025.

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://twitter.com/pstyle0ne1/status/1712528991951749529?s=12
Man Bakhmut really was a massive waste of time for the orcs.

[pppolitics]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1712468854453187023
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1712541100286816387

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1712716729363661148?t=4Y9b70tQ_XcZdUpyKys-...
Now Russians are reporting that Ukraine retook the garbage hill aka Russia never actually took control just like DS reported and this was a telegram capture that they now want to write off as UA "took it back"

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1712716729363661148?t=4Y9b70tQ_XcZdUpyKys-...
Now Russians are reporting that Ukraine retook the garbage hill aka Russia never actually took control just like DS reported and this was a telegram capture that they now want to write off as UA "took it back"

It’s important to remember that a lot of the Telegram channels act as influencers/engagement farms first. Rybar will occasionally overestimate Ukrainian gains, as well, so that they can later say the ground was recaptured. The driving factor here is the incentive to overstate movements.

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1712716729363661148?t=4Y9b70tQ_XcZdUpyKys-...
Now Russians are reporting that Ukraine retook the garbage hill aka Russia never actually took control just like DS reported and this was a telegram capture that they now want to write off as UA "took it back"

It’s important to remember that a lot of the Telegram channels act as influencers/engagement farms first. Rybar will occasionally overestimate Ukrainian gains, as well, so that they can later say the ground was recaptured. The driving factor here is the incentive to overstate movements.

Oh of course but DS is probably the best of the group as it’s clear they actually try to put out the most accurate reports

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1712755347155272040
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1712800441245835677
Day 3 of the Avdiivka attack: “all is lost and we’re out of body bags for our killed”. This is so transparently a political campaign over a military one

[CumbrianLefty]

B-but.....Vatniks told us just yesterday that Russia was on the verge of a glorious victory there!

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

The US has finally released some substantiation for their claims about North Korean military aid to Russia:

https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/1712870315619967304
NK may or may not have the world's largest stockpile of ammunition, although it is extremely poor quality and production rates may be low. The extent of their support to Russia will probably be decided by whether they're allowed to backfill from China.

Edit: I'm not expecting an SK response to this, but it's at least possible they respond to international pressure as a result of the NK transfers.

[Storr]

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1712830457383956989?s=20

[Storr]

When helping to plan a surprise invasion, you might as well get rich while you're at it:

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1712889284464689656?s=20

[Storr]

If you needed a reminder that Ukrainians are some of the toughest people on the planet:

https://twitter.com/irgarner/status/1712780695087481243?s=20

[Hindsight was 2020]

Boy sure is weird coming into the thread in the morning and not seeing 6-7 jaichind spam posts in a row

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://twitter.com/reevesity/status/1713236643316912180?s=12
https://twitter.com/tendar/status/1713222424584417291?s=12
More of more evidence of Russia having lost an insane amount of men and equipment in just 3 days

[Logical]

I love how batsh**t Russian folk Orthodoxy is sometimes.
https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1712902972718424175

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://twitter.com/squiredigital/status/1713343688561054069
Lol. No more talking about Avdiivka vatniks

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://twitter.com/tendar/status/1713520368151941558?s=12
A really good read on what went down in Avdiivka this week