Russia-Ukraine war and related tensions Megathread

[Storr]

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1700996350429868067?s=20

[jaichind]

https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/09/10/donald-trump-will-never-support-putin-says-volodymyr-zelensky

"Donald Trump will “never” support Putin, says Volodymyr Zelensky"

Zelensky makes veiled threat to the collective West on what the Ukraiainas refugees in the collective West might do if they abandoned Ukraine

Ukrainians have generally “behaved well” and are “very grateful” to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity.   But it would not be a “good story” for Europe if it were to “drive these people into a corner”.

[pppolitics]

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1701330997055238544

After seeing the success of cluster munitions delivered in 155 mm artillery rounds in recent months, the U.S. is considering shipping either or both Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS) that can fly up to 190 miles (306 km), or Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) missiles with a 45-mile range packed with cluster bombs, three U.S. officials said.

If approved, either option would be available for rapid shipment to Kyiv.

Ukraine is currently equipped with 155 mm artillery with a maximum range of 18 miles carrying up to 48 bomblets. The ATACMS under consideration would propel around 300 or more bomblets. The GMLRS rocket system, a version of which Ukraine has had in its arsenal for months, would be able to disperse up to 404 cluster munitions.

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https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/09/10/donald-trump-will-never-support-putin-says-volodymyr-zelensky

"Donald Trump will “never” support Putin, says Volodymyr Zelensky"

Zelensky makes veiled threat to the collective West on what the Ukraiainas refugees in the collective West might do if they abandoned Ukraine

Ukrainians have generally “behaved well” and are “very grateful” to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity.   But it would not be a “good story” for Europe if it were to “drive these people into a corner”.

Well, that's an unexpected defense of Trump.

[jaichind]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-12/putin-calls-trump-s-legal-woes-persecution-that-benefits-russia

"Putin Calls Trump’s Legal Woes Persecution That Benefits Russia"

President Vladimir Putin called the legal cases facing former US President Donald Trump “political persecution,” and said it’s beneficial for Russia.
No matter who is elected US president next year, there won’t be any fundamental change in the country’s foreign policy toward Russia, Putin said, while denying allegations that Russian connections helped Trump to the White House in 2016.  

[jaichind]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-place-is-eu-says-german-foreign-minister-kyiv-2023-09-11/

"German minister says Ukraine's place is in EU, hears calls for arms during Kyiv visit"

Following talks with Baerbock, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said he had called for Taurus cruise missiles to be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible.

"You will do it anyway, its just a matter of time, and I don't understand why we are wasting time," Kuleba said in response to a question at a press conference.

Pretty funny how Kuleba is calling Germany's bluff and says directly "The imperative of the situation means you will give us the Taurus missile eventually anyway so just get on with it."

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1701557530797687098?s=20
If they are complaining about UA aviation now…
https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1701545678671941684?s=20

[jaichind]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1701246932557943004

https://www.ft.com/content/1e70ff72-52d8-46b6-a8f4-fcc86fb88a6d

"EU imports record volumes of liquefied natural gas from Russia'

EU is still getting a lot of Russian gas but a lot more of it is in LNG format which is a lot more expensive from both an exporter and importer point of view.  It also puts Russian gas costs on a more equal footing as USA gas costs since all USA exports of gas to the EU are in LNG format.

So the really cheap Russia -> EU gas trade has been significantly disrupted with the result of Russia shifting its gas exports toward the PRC while the USA expands its market share of the EU energy market.   The net effect has been for EU to burn some of its cash in order for Russia to burn some of their cash with USA and PRC being the winners.

[pppolitics]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1701594641215488510

[kelestian]

https://thepressunited.com/updates/80-of-ukrainian-refugees-in-germany-jobless-die-welt/

"80% of Ukrainian refugees in Germany jobless – Die Welt"

That is to be expected if the German government is going to give  Ukrainian refugees food and shelter for free.  Sounds like one solution to this situation is for Germany to work with Ukraine to deport them back to Ukraine so they can be mobilized.  That is what Ukraine is asking for anyway.

Please, educate yourself before posting. Almost all of Ukrainian refugees are women, children and old people. And none of them know German language, so it's practically impossible to find a job in Germany for them. No need to bash these poor people even further, they have already suffered enough.

All things consider, 20% employment rate is actually quite impressive, my estimation was closer to 10%

[jaichind]

https://thepressunited.com/updates/80-of-ukrainian-refugees-in-germany-jobless-die-welt/

"80% of Ukrainian refugees in Germany jobless – Die Welt"

That is to be expected if the German government is going to give  Ukrainian refugees food and shelter for free.  Sounds like one solution to this situation is for Germany to work with Ukraine to deport them back to Ukraine so they can be mobilized.  That is what Ukraine is asking for anyway.

Please, educate yourself before posting. Almost all of Ukrainian refugees are women, children and old people. And none of them know German language, so it's practically impossible to find a job in Germany for them. No need to bash these poor people even further, they have already suffered enough.

All things consider, 20% employment rate is actually quite impressive, my estimation was closer to 10%

It is totally possible in Germany the demographics of Ukrainian refugees skew toward women/children/older people

A comparison of Ukraine's demographics between 2021 and 2023 seems to indicate that a lot of refugees are younger men.  Now, a bunch of them were most likely KIA but still, the difference between the two years is very stark and would imply that a good number of Ukrainian refugees overall are younger men.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Vid of Russian shellings this morning on tg indicate that UA is entering Verbove 👀

[jaichind]

https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/russland-sanktionen-warum-der-preisdeckel-fuer-putins-oel-nicht-funktioniert-a-6118de2c-bcce-4975-9ade-9bc8aa29b89b

"Why the price cap for Putin's oil is flopping"

Der Spiegel blames the Global South like India and Saudia Arabia for the Russian oil cap not working

[Red Velvet]

78% of Ukrainians blame Zelenskyy for corruption

According to a recent poll published by the Ilko Kucheriv Democratic Initiatives Foundation, 78% of surveyed Ukrainians believe that the president bears direct responsibility for corruption in the government and regional administrations. Only 18% of respondents disagreed with this statement.

Older Ukrainians seem more demanding of the head of state than the young people, reads the report. The share of respondents who think the president is responsible for corruption ranges from 70% to 81% among people aged 18-29 and those over 60, respectively.

[Alben Barkley]

78% of Ukrainians blame Zelenskyy for corruption

According to a recent poll published by the Ilko Kucheriv Democratic Initiatives Foundation, 78% of surveyed Ukrainians believe that the president bears direct responsibility for corruption in the government and regional administrations. Only 18% of respondents disagreed with this statement.

Older Ukrainians seem more demanding of the head of state than the young people, reads the report. The share of respondents who think the president is responsible for corruption ranges from 70% to 81% among people aged 18-29 and those over 60, respectively.

And yet he still has a 91% approval rating, with overwhelming approval of his wartime leadership.

Almost like Ukrainians are smart enough to realize their government is not perfect, but also do not want to become the puppets of an even worse Russian government that is brutalizing them.

[Landslide Lyndon]

78% of Ukrainians blame Zelenskyy for corruption

According to a recent poll published by the Ilko Kucheriv Democratic Initiatives Foundation, 78% of surveyed Ukrainians believe that the president bears direct responsibility for corruption in the government and regional administrations. Only 18% of respondents disagreed with this statement.

Older Ukrainians seem more demanding of the head of state than the young people, reads the report. The share of respondents who think the president is responsible for corruption ranges from 70% to 81% among people aged 18-29 and those over 60, respectively.

British people overwhelmingly approved Churchill's wartime leadership and yet when the first post-war elections were held he lost in a landslide.

[pppolitics]

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1701614414292512832

[2952-0-0]

https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/russland-sanktionen-warum-der-preisdeckel-fuer-putins-oel-nicht-funktioniert-a-6118de2c-bcce-4975-9ade-9bc8aa29b89b

"Why the price cap for Putin's oil is flopping"

Der Spiegel blames the Global South like India and Saudia Arabia for the Russian oil cap not working

https://www.wionews.com/business-economy/india-to-offer-russia-to-invest-trapped-rupees-serei-lavrov-634749

Meanwhile, the Russians are realizing that India has taken them for a ride.

1) India pays for Russian oil imports in Rupees.
2) The Russians realize that the Rupees were paid into bank accounts in India, and that the Rupee isn't freely convertible.
3) India doesn't permit the exchange of the Rupees into foreign currencies, and Russian importers can't find enough Indian products to buy with the Rupees.
4) The bank accounts in India are overflowing with Rupees, with nowhere to go.
5) The Indians are offering to invest the excess Rupees in infrastructure projects in India.

So the Indians have driven a hard bargain for Russian oil, saved themselves from outflows of foreign currency, and found themselves a free source of capital for infrastructure investment. That's a win-win-win!

[kelestian]

https://thepressunited.com/updates/80-of-ukrainian-refugees-in-germany-jobless-die-welt/

"80% of Ukrainian refugees in Germany jobless – Die Welt"

That is to be expected if the German government is going to give  Ukrainian refugees food and shelter for free.  Sounds like one solution to this situation is for Germany to work with Ukraine to deport them back to Ukraine so they can be mobilized.  That is what Ukraine is asking for anyway.

Please, educate yourself before posting. Almost all of Ukrainian refugees are women, children and old people. And none of them know German language, so it's practically impossible to find a job in Germany for them. No need to bash these poor people even further, they have already suffered enough.

All things consider, 20% employment rate is actually quite impressive, my estimation was closer to 10%

It is totally possible in Germany the demographics of Ukrainian refugees skew toward women/children/older people

A comparison of Ukraine's demographics between 2021 and 2023 seems to indicate that a lot of refugees are younger men.  Now, a bunch of them were most likely KIA but still, the difference between the two years is very stark and would imply that a good number of Ukrainian refugees overall are younger men.

I don't believe any demographic surveys from Ukraine right now. They were terrible even before the war.

No, not a good number for sure, since exit from Ukraine was prohibited for almost all men over 18 since the beginning of the war.  I have seen some young men - mostly Roma people with dual Moldovan/Ukrainian citizenship, but overall men between 18-60 are like 5-10% of refugees.

[Storr]

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1701687648069251103?s=20

[pppolitics]

...perhaps it's because Israel has more in common with Russia than the United States and other Western democracies.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1701732985631109468

[It’s so Joever]

...perhaps it's because Israel has more in common with Russia than the United States and other Western democracies.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1701732985631109468

Can you blame them? They need those military supplies to terrorize the Palestinian people.

[Hindsight was 2020]

...perhaps it's because Israel has more in common with Russia than the United States and other Western democracies.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1701732985631109468

It really is something that the nation born out of vow of “Never forget” is sitting on the sidelines while a war being waged in the country that saw some of the worst of the Nazis atrocities involving a neighbor justifying the war with blood and soil rhetoric. Along with said invading nation having its domestic and foreign agents invoke antisemitic dog whistles on the Jewish leader of the invaded nation oh and their most effective fighting unit is a terrorist organization that named itself after a German composer because one of its cofounders was a literal neonazi

[oldtimer]

78% of Ukrainians blame Zelenskyy for corruption

According to a recent poll published by the Ilko Kucheriv Democratic Initiatives Foundation, 78% of surveyed Ukrainians believe that the president bears direct responsibility for corruption in the government and regional administrations. Only 18% of respondents disagreed with this statement.

Older Ukrainians seem more demanding of the head of state than the young people, reads the report. The share of respondents who think the president is responsible for corruption ranges from 70% to 81% among people aged 18-29 and those over 60, respectively.

British people overwhelmingly approved Churchill's wartime leadership and yet when the first post-war elections were held he lost in a landslide.

Churchill was the Boris Johnson of his day.

In the good and the bad way, which is why he was tossed out on the first opportunity.

However Churchill's second stint as PM in the 1950's was far far better, and created the myth of Churchill.

Best PM the UK had in the 20th century, but not in the period most people associate today.

[pppolitics]

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1701768975548399766https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1701764738936443287
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1701764543775490364
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1701763691262464185
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1701765467738644810
https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1701761899216429451