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« Reply #22200 on: May 26, 2023, 06:41:01 AM »

Ivan Khurs undamaged.

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« Reply #22201 on: May 26, 2023, 07:24:11 AM »

It really takes years to train a pilot from scratch, but if you transfer a pilot experienced enough to fly a Soviet aircraft with its terrible almost completely manual interface to a Western aircraft, you simply make it easier for the specialist to do his job.
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« Reply #22202 on: May 26, 2023, 07:34:20 AM »

There is a viral video circulating around various telegrams. A Ukrainian soldier shot and killed his battalion commander, because he disagreed with his orders. In their words (his friends?): "They wanted us to be meat, so Ehor did it for us. The fellow decided for us"

Not going to post it because TOS
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« Reply #22203 on: May 26, 2023, 08:07:47 AM »

And?
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« Reply #22204 on: May 26, 2023, 08:09:13 AM »


And Ukraine's government currently denies they hey are behind such an attack.  So what the US intelligence says seems to be at odds with what Ukraine's government says.  Of course, this is a pretty standard. All sides lie during war.
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« Reply #22205 on: May 26, 2023, 08:12:16 AM »

It really takes years to train a pilot from scratch, but if you transfer a pilot experienced enough to fly a Soviet aircraft with its terrible almost completely manual interface to a Western aircraft, you simply make it easier for the specialist to do his job.

Not sure it is that simple. The doctrines of a USSR fighter and a F-16 are very different.  Also, the entire runway system that supports a USSR-style plane is very different from that of the F-16 so there are a bunch of work Ukraine has to do to change their runways.
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« Reply #22206 on: May 26, 2023, 08:49:41 AM »


The same author wrote:

Ukraineís Long-Expected Offensive: Why It Wonít Beat Putin

Bad News: NATO Tanks, Planes, And Artillery Unlikely To Win Ukraine War

America Canít Give Ukraine So Many Weapons A Nuclear War Starts

Why Is Europe Paying So Little To Defend Ukraine Against Russia?

Putin Could Launch A Big Winter Offensive In Ukraine To Cut Off Weapons

Putinís Coming Winter Offensive Is A Clear Threat To Ukraine
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« Reply #22207 on: May 26, 2023, 09:31:47 AM »


The same author wrote:

Ukraineís Long-Expected Offensive: Why It Wonít Beat Putin

Bad News: NATO Tanks, Planes, And Artillery Unlikely To Win Ukraine War

America Canít Give Ukraine So Many Weapons A Nuclear War Starts

Why Is Europe Paying So Little To Defend Ukraine Against Russia?

Putin Could Launch A Big Winter Offensive In Ukraine To Cut Off Weapons

Putinís Coming Winter Offensive Is A Clear Threat To Ukraine

Ah, you surprise me.
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« Reply #22208 on: May 26, 2023, 09:55:19 AM »


The same author wrote:

Ukraineís Long-Expected Offensive: Why It Wonít Beat Putin

Bad News: NATO Tanks, Planes, And Artillery Unlikely To Win Ukraine War

America Canít Give Ukraine So Many Weapons A Nuclear War Starts

Why Is Europe Paying So Little To Defend Ukraine Against Russia?

Putin Could Launch A Big Winter Offensive In Ukraine To Cut Off Weapons

Putinís Coming Winter Offensive Is A Clear Threat To Ukraine

Iím curious. Does the ďComing Winter OffensiveĒ he wrote about refer to the Battle of Bakhmut which started in August, or Vuhledar where the Russian assaults on fortified positions failed to move the line at all? Those were the only Russian attacks I can even remember going back more than half a year.
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« Reply #22209 on: May 26, 2023, 10:34:06 AM »


Or the projection of Russian nationalists, when they turn the fact of the territories annexed from China in the Far East into a story about the sale of Russian territories to the PRC, became true and Putin really sells forests to the PRC  Confused
I doubt China actually has designs on Siberia or the Russian Far East: it's much cheaper and easier for them to just buy the resources at fire-sale prices and not have to pay the cost of garrisoning and administering the territories.
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« Reply #22210 on: May 26, 2023, 10:45:05 AM »



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« Reply #22211 on: May 26, 2023, 10:57:44 AM »
« Edited: May 26, 2023, 11:10:21 AM by Storr »

My opinion:

Merkel isn't to blame for the war. Any other German leader would have pursued the same policy. It was /is a more systemic issue within Germany, assuming closer economic ties with Russia (and other authoritarian nations) would avoid conflict.

Putin views the Germans as US puppets anyway, I doubt they were a major factor in his thought process when deciding to invade Ukraine. He views bringing Ukraine back into the "Russian world" as his historical mission. Maybe a militarily strong Germany would have discouraged him from invading Ukraine, but I don't see a scenario where Germany rearms post-1989. 

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« Reply #22212 on: May 26, 2023, 11:57:13 AM »

There is a viral video circulating around various telegrams. A Ukrainian soldier shot and killed his battalion commander, because he disagreed with his orders. In their words (his friends?): "They wanted us to be meat, so Ehor did it for us. The fellow decided for us"

Not going to post it because TOS

FWIW I have seen it as well and yeah its pretty gorey.
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« Reply #22213 on: May 26, 2023, 12:55:44 PM »


The same author wrote:

Ukraineís Long-Expected Offensive: Why It Wonít Beat Putin

Bad News: NATO Tanks, Planes, And Artillery Unlikely To Win Ukraine War

America Canít Give Ukraine So Many Weapons A Nuclear War Starts

Why Is Europe Paying So Little To Defend Ukraine Against Russia?

Putin Could Launch A Big Winter Offensive In Ukraine To Cut Off Weapons

Putinís Coming Winter Offensive Is A Clear Threat To Ukraine

Iím curious. Does the ďComing Winter OffensiveĒ he wrote about refer to the Battle of Bakhmut which started in August, or Vuhledar where the Russian assaults on fortified positions failed to move the line at all? Those were the only Russian attacks I can even remember going back more than half a year.

The consensus among people who study the war seriously is that Vulehdar was the Russian Winter Offensive.
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« Reply #22214 on: May 26, 2023, 01:07:26 PM »

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« Reply #22215 on: May 26, 2023, 05:04:23 PM »

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« Reply #22216 on: May 26, 2023, 05:06:00 PM »

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« Reply #22217 on: May 27, 2023, 03:46:02 AM »

This is like, the 20th time we hear about this.
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« Reply #22218 on: May 27, 2023, 03:46:29 AM »

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« Reply #22219 on: May 27, 2023, 03:51:41 AM »

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« Reply #22220 on: May 27, 2023, 05:02:24 AM »

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« Reply #22221 on: May 27, 2023, 05:08:01 AM »

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« Reply #22222 on: May 27, 2023, 08:11:30 AM »


Looks like what happened in Belgorod is the start of continuing raids by the Free Russia Legion
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« Reply #22223 on: May 27, 2023, 10:40:46 AM »

This thread has now passed 22,222 posts - is it the longest in forum history?
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« Reply #22224 on: May 27, 2023, 10:41:52 AM »


Looks like itís going down soon. Kick Ruzzian butt Ukraine 🫡
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