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« Reply #20350 on: March 22, 2023, 01:31:18 AM »

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« Reply #20351 on: March 22, 2023, 05:34:18 AM »
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Maybe these T-54s are being moved for other reasons, but the presumption is that Russia is preparing to use them for the war in Ukraine.


It's better than no tank, but the T-54 (first adopted in 1948) would be the oldest tank to serve in this conflict. It's worth noting that most estimates of Russian reserves in recent years either discounted the T-54/55s entirely or estimated that they had ~500, but the latter set of estimates sat within a context of a clear overestimate of ~13,000 tanks total.

I've stated before that Russia will have problems with other kinds of equipment, such as protected mobility, before they have problems fielding their preferred numbers of tanks, and I stand by that. However, if T-54s are deployed, that's definitely a harbinger of problems fielding the preferred number of tanks.
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« Reply #20352 on: March 22, 2023, 07:05:16 AM »



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« Reply #20353 on: March 22, 2023, 07:15:51 AM »

We're going to go into April with Bakhmut *still* not fully captured by Russia, aren't we?
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« Reply #20354 on: March 22, 2023, 07:31:53 AM »

We're going to go into April with Bakhmut *still* not fully captured by Russia, aren't we?
Very likely considering all the recent intelligence rumblings and Wagner openly stating that Russia is on the verge of offensive exhaustion and won’t be able to do any encirclement of the city. But don’t worry Woodbury will still make sure to annoy us all with “it’s going to fall any day. Oh man Ukraine is in trouble” posts
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« Reply #20355 on: March 22, 2023, 12:52:33 PM »

Maybe these T-54s are being moved for other reasons, but the presumption is that Russia is preparing to use them for the war in Ukraine.


It's better than no tank, but the T-54 (first adopted in 1948) would be the oldest tank to serve in this conflict. It's worth noting that most estimates of Russian reserves in recent years either discounted the T-54/55s entirely or estimated that they had ~500, but the latter set of estimates sat within a context of a clear overestimate of ~13,000 tanks total.

I've stated before that Russia will have problems with other kinds of equipment, such as protected mobility, before they have problems fielding their preferred numbers of tanks, and I stand by that. However, if T-54s are deployed, that's definitely a harbinger of problems fielding the preferred number of tanks.

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« Reply #20356 on: March 22, 2023, 01:01:13 PM »

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« Reply #20357 on: March 22, 2023, 03:47:48 PM »


I highly doubt the "it was here where Hitler realized the war was lost" claim. But yeah, pretty much:

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« Reply #20358 on: March 22, 2023, 04:38:19 PM »
« Edited: March 22, 2023, 04:43:14 PM by Virginiá »



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« Reply #20359 on: March 22, 2023, 04:47:08 PM »

Maybe these T-54s are being moved for other reasons, but the presumption is that Russia is preparing to use them for the war in Ukraine.


It's better than no tank, but the T-54 (first adopted in 1948) would be the oldest tank to serve in this conflict. It's worth noting that most estimates of Russian reserves in recent years either discounted the T-54/55s entirely or estimated that they had ~500, but the latter set of estimates sat within a context of a clear overestimate of ~13,000 tanks total.

I've stated before that Russia will have problems with other kinds of equipment, such as protected mobility, before they have problems fielding their preferred numbers of tanks, and I stand by that. However, if T-54s are deployed, that's definitely a harbinger of problems fielding the preferred number of tanks.

Waiting for the inevitable Lazerpig Loop argument from Woodbury on this.



That's not a meme, by the way. That's a real thing
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« Reply #20360 on: March 22, 2023, 05:19:02 PM »

rest of tweet: "...surpass the Germans in recklessness."




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« Reply #20361 on: March 22, 2023, 06:04:04 PM »

Putin drives himself in Mariupol.  I am impressed.


Wow, the dictator in charge of a Chinese-owned gas station with nukes drove a car.

I too am impressed by the extremely rare skill called "driving".  Ukraine is now doomed.
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« Reply #20362 on: March 22, 2023, 07:19:08 PM »

Almost two thirds of the city is under Russian Army control. Bakhmut is going to be Artyomovsk again.


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« Reply #20363 on: March 22, 2023, 08:37:04 PM »
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Maybe these T-54s are being moved for other reasons, but the presumption is that Russia is preparing to use them for the war in Ukraine.


It's better than no tank, but the T-54 (first adopted in 1948) would be the oldest tank to serve in this conflict. It's worth noting that most estimates of Russian reserves in recent years either discounted the T-54/55s entirely or estimated that they had ~500, but the latter set of estimates sat within a context of a clear overestimate of ~13,000 tanks total.

I've stated before that Russia will have problems with other kinds of equipment, such as protected mobility, before they have problems fielding their preferred numbers of tanks, and I stand by that. However, if T-54s are deployed, that's definitely a harbinger of problems fielding the preferred number of tanks.

Russia being desperate enough to bring out a tank from the Korean War era, is deeply humiliating for a 'military superpower'. It would be like if the US lost over half of it's M1A1 Abrams tanks in Iraq and decided to bring out of retirement the Korean War era M48 Patton tank.

In the 1990 Gulf War, Iraq used the T-54/T-55 tanks which were annihilated by Western tanks without one Western tank lost in combat.
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« Reply #20364 on: March 23, 2023, 12:24:59 PM »


More and more positive assessments of the situation in Bakmut. This might actually be the Stalingrad of this war. If Ukraine can somehow actually win this battle, Putin might actually start purging his high command
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« Reply #20365 on: March 23, 2023, 12:44:09 PM »

A few hundred pages back Torie said that he could measure how well the war was going for each side by seeing who was posting the most in this thread. By that measure the past week must have been especially dire for the Russians.
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« Reply #20366 on: March 23, 2023, 02:13:54 PM »

There really isn't much to say as it is mud season. Just like WWII, combat is mostly paused from mid March to early April as the logistics do not allow it.
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« Reply #20367 on: March 23, 2023, 02:15:12 PM »


More and more positive assessments of the situation in Bakmut. This might actually be the Stalingrad of this war. If Ukraine can somehow actually win this battle, Putin might actually start purging his high command
I doubt he will purge his incompetent pals Shoigu and Gerasimov.

Putin and his government did nothing after their historic defeats in March of 2022, did nothing after they lost their fleet , did nothing after they lost their airforce, only did a partial mobilization after another historic defeat in Septermber of 2022, did nothing after their defeat in Khershon, did nothing after they started bombing Russia.

So even if the Ukrainian army captures the Kremlin it's likely that Putin will still do nothing.

Never in recorded history has a leader been seen to be so apathetic and lazy.
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« Reply #20368 on: March 23, 2023, 02:30:49 PM »


More and more positive assessments of the situation in Bakmut. This might actually be the Stalingrad of this war. If Ukraine can somehow actually win this battle, Putin might actually start purging his high command
I doubt he will purge his incompetent pals Shoigu and Gerasimov.

Putin and his government did nothing after their historic defeats in March of 2022, did nothing after they lost their fleet , did nothing after they lost their airforce, only did a partial mobilization after another historic defeat in Septermber of 2022, did nothing after their defeat in Khershon, did nothing after they started bombing Russia.

So even if the Ukrainian army captures the Kremlin it's likely that Putin will still do nothing.

Never in recorded history has a leader been seen to be so apathetic and lazy.
Yeah his two doofus lapdogs might get a pass but generals below them might be on the chopping block and with the way things have gone with Wagner I wouldn’t be shocked if Prigozhin gets blown up in a mysterious car bombing that Putin will try to pin on Ukraine
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« Reply #20369 on: March 23, 2023, 02:34:35 PM »

A few hundred pages back Torie said that he could measure how well the war was going for each side by seeing who was posting the most in this thread. By that measure the past week must have been especially dire for the Russians.
Sounds like cope. Ukraine hasn't won any territory since mobilization.
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« Reply #20370 on: March 23, 2023, 02:41:35 PM »

A few hundred pages back Torie said that he could measure how well the war was going for each side by seeing who was posting the most in this thread. By that measure the past week must have been especially dire for the Russians.
Sounds like cope. Ukraine hasn't won any territory since mobilization.
Ukraine retook Kherson after Putin ordered the first round and the second happened during winter and Ukraine has been waiting for spring weather to take advantage of the western tanks they got 🤷‍♂️
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« Reply #20371 on: March 23, 2023, 03:09:44 PM »

A few hundred pages back Torie said that he could measure how well the war was going for each side by seeing who was posting the most in this thread. By that measure the past week must have been especially dire for the Russians.
Sounds like cope. Ukraine hasn't won any territory since mobilization.
They drove Russia from all of Kharkiv oblast and
In the same timeframe that your glorious Russian masturbatory aide has failed to take a minor city 2.5km from the front.

Someone’s coping alright
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« Reply #20372 on: March 23, 2023, 03:44:29 PM »

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« Reply #20373 on: March 23, 2023, 03:47:56 PM »

The Global South is much more united than previously anticipated. While a few Euro dumbf@cks on Twitter have been hoping for less aid to Ukraine, those in the Global South are investigating if Russian PMCs murdered Chinese workers in an African country they exploited:

L for GLOBAL SOUTH enjoyers
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« Reply #20374 on: March 23, 2023, 04:09:26 PM »

A few hundred pages back Torie said that he could measure how well the war was going for each side by seeing who was posting the most in this thread. By that measure the past week must have been especially dire for the Russians.
Sounds like cope. Ukraine hasn't won any territory since mobilization.
They drove Russia from all of Kharkiv oblast and
In the same timeframe that your glorious Russian masturbatory aide has failed to take a minor city 2.5km from the front.

Someone’s coping alright
Kharkiv was before mobilization. And during Kherson the mobiks were still in training fields.

It's a 100% fact that Ukrainians have never had a successful offensive against Russian forces with the same or more ratio of troops (Kharkiv/North/Kherson) has either been unmanned or withdrawned. Mobilization has addressed these issues, and that's precisely why Ukrainians will never push Russia out of the country.
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