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« Reply #19875 on: March 05, 2023, 11:41:10 PM »
Ironically, Krasnodar Krai encompasses the Kuban. The latter of which is a region that was mostly settled by Ukrainian Cossacks from 1792 onward after Catherine the Great granted lands to them. If you look at local news articles from there, you'll probably see at least one person mentioned having a surname ending with the Ukrainian -enko suffix.



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« Reply #19876 on: March 06, 2023, 03:03:43 AM »
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« Reply #19877 on: March 06, 2023, 03:16:44 AM »

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« Reply #19878 on: March 06, 2023, 03:17:41 AM »
Another Donbass person liberated by Russia:
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« Reply #19879 on: March 06, 2023, 03:23:01 AM »
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« Reply #19880 on: March 06, 2023, 03:42:24 AM »

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« Reply #19881 on: March 06, 2023, 04:52:13 AM »
https://www.hindustantimes.com/videos/worldview/ukraine-slams-louis-vuitton-for-pro-putin-ad-luxury-smells-better-when-drenched-in-blood-101678085470908.html

"Ukraine slams Louis Vuitton for 'pro-Putin’ ad | 'Luxury Smells Better When Drenched In Blood'"

The latest Louis Vuitton ads/logo caught Ukraine's anger.
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« Reply #19882 on: March 06, 2023, 04:52:40 AM »
« Edited: March 06, 2023, 04:56:13 AM by Woody »
Muddy fields and roads west of Bakhmut. Under artillery and fire control from Wagner.
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« Reply #19883 on: March 06, 2023, 05:14:05 AM »
Kramatorsk School No. 1: "liberated"
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« Reply #19884 on: March 06, 2023, 06:35:27 AM »


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« Reply #19885 on: March 06, 2023, 06:39:40 AM »
My understanding is that after Tuesday the mud situation in Bakhmut will get worse since even nighttime temperature will be above freezing which will make any movement outside of roads very difficult, especially when bringing equipment.
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« Reply #19886 on: March 06, 2023, 07:51:22 AM »
« Edited: March 06, 2023, 07:56:33 AM by Woody »

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« Reply #19887 on: March 06, 2023, 08:05:07 AM »

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"The members of the Headquarters considered the situation in Bakhmut in particular detail. Assessing the course of the defensive operation, the President asked the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzny and the commander of the operational-strategic group of troops" Khortytsya "Alexander Syrsky regarding further actions in the Bakhmut direction. They spoke in favor of continuing the defensive operation and further strengthening our positions in Bakhmut,"
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« Reply #19888 on: March 06, 2023, 08:28:29 AM »
Bild reports conflict between Zelensky and Zaluzhny due to difference on opinion on strategy for Bakhmut
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« Reply #19889 on: March 06, 2023, 10:52:40 AM »
« Edited: March 06, 2023, 10:58:58 AM by Torie »
Sorry to interrupt the narrative here of gloom and doom, and the good guys dying in the mud as they struggle unsuccessfully to escape from the pincer noose and are cut down, but:

After months of epic struggle, the fight over the Ukrainian city of Bakhmut had seemed in recent days to be reaching a climax, with Russian forces close to encircling the city and some Ukrainian units pulling out.

Then, early Saturday, Ukrainian assault brigades went on the attack. Over the weekend, hundreds of troops joined the counteroffensive, mounting assaults from the ground and pounding Russian positions with artillery from the surrounding hills.

Even before Ukraine stepped up its attack on Russians in Bakhmut on the weekend, its forces had moved to beat Russian troops back from the last main highway into the city. That preserved both a supply line that has helped Ukrainian soldiers tie down the Russian offensive for months and an exit route for them should they decide to retreat.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/06/world/europe/ukraine-bakhmut-battle.html

And this is why those who want the West to cut Ukraine loose will be sorely disappointed. These guys have courage and guts, no matter the personal cost, no matter that it is leaving their country in ruins as Putin focuses on destroying its infrastructure, the stuff that makes a place habitable by humans.

That is inspirational, and inspiration is the most valued coin of the realm – it’s priceless. It is not subject to being a line item on a balance sheet or income statement.
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« Reply #19890 on: March 06, 2023, 11:33:24 AM »




link to said video [GRAPHIC]: https://twitter.com/igorlachenkov/status/1632731944038412288?s=20
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« Reply #19891 on: March 06, 2023, 12:05:43 PM »
« Edited: March 06, 2023, 12:09:35 PM by Storr »
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« Reply #19892 on: March 06, 2023, 12:30:00 PM »
Ah well, Twitter currently being out of action means this page loads more quickly than usual Wink
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« Reply #19893 on: March 06, 2023, 12:33:24 PM »
How did that video get into Ukrainian hands?
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« Reply #19894 on: March 06, 2023, 12:38:47 PM »
Quote from: Torie on March 06, 2023, 12:33:24 PM
How did that video get into Ukrainian hands?

Sorry, what video?
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« Reply #19895 on: March 06, 2023, 01:11:13 PM »
You don’t want to know let’s put it like that
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« Reply #19896 on: March 06, 2023, 01:24:43 PM »

Censored version & thread below (pro Ru source)

His face is clearly on the video, so the victim will be identified soon. That being said, I am already 90% of the opinion this is a genuine war crime, and not a UA psyop.
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« Reply #19897 on: March 06, 2023, 01:28:03 PM »
Quote from: Storr on March 06, 2023, 11:33:24 AM




link to said video [GRAPHIC]: https://twitter.com/igorlachenkov/status/1632731944038412288?s=20

Those people are animals!
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« Reply #19898 on: March 06, 2023, 01:34:24 PM »
« Edited: March 06, 2023, 01:40:31 PM by Atlasian AG Punxsutawney Phil »
There's a reason they jokingly call the Geneva Conventions the "Geneva Suggestions".
If Russia wants Ukraine to respect POWs on their side well, they would be well advised to do the same.
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« Reply #19899 on: March 06, 2023, 01:45:08 PM »
« Edited: March 06, 2023, 01:51:03 PM by Omega21 »
More extremely concerning footage coming in from Bakhmut.

Video shows UA dugout positions completely annihilated, at least 20+ KIA visible on the spot. Unknown POW & wounded.

It seems they came under very heavy fire & sought shelters in the trenches and a large dugout room before falling to artillery & maybe encirclement.

Video is uncensored & paired with very unfitting music, so I won't post it here.

Quote from: Atlasian AG Punxsutawney Phil on March 06, 2023, 01:34:24 PM
There's a reason they jokingly call the Geneva Conventions the "Geneva Suggestions".
If Russia wants Ukraine to respect POWs on their side well, they would be well advised to do the same.

To be fair, war has become somewhat more "humane", since for example, we haven't really seen widespread use of chemical weapons in the past decades.

Also, POW exchange lines seem open between RU & UA, and there is little to suggest either side is top-down ordering executions of POWs. This is obviously in stark contrast to Germany vs SSSR.

We have had a few UA (mostly the groups who like right hand stretching exercises, not regulars) kneecappings & executions & also a few similar videos from RU units, but so far, thankfully these have been exceptions & isolated cases.
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