Russia-Ukraine war and related tensions Megathread

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Ok this is pretty worrying.

https://twitter.com/JoshNBCNews/status/1560278407954321416?t=WVOtNB_X5bztdZKOEfy...

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1561222353694216193?s=20&t=kfw3sn...

The thing is nuclear power plants aren't something you can just turn off. An immediate disconnect from the grid could bring the cooling towers offline...very not good.

[DINGO Joe]

Alexander Dugin's daughter has died in an apparent car bomb. The bomb might have been meant for Dugin, as they had been at the same event prior to it. In any case, the daughter seems to have shared his father's ideology.

According to preliminary reports the target was Dugin himself but he had left the car with an associate when it blew up. Dugin's daughter was a fascist who relentlessly promoted her father's fascist and genocidal ideology so no tears will be shed here.

She’s been in hell for a day now. An eternity minus one day is still an eternity!

If we want to believe the Russian narrative, this is a huge embarrassment for the Russian security services. This happened in Moscow, not in the Donbass like the 2018 cafe bombing assassination of "DPR" leader and "Prime Minister" Oleksandr Zarchenko.

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1561137226838417408?s=20&t=VbLvdmnf...

"What's currently known about the death of Alexander Dugin's daughter, Daria Dugina:

▪️ The head of the "DNR" has already blamed "terrorists of the Ukrainian regime."

▪️ Dugina was returning from a literary and musical festival in her father's car, but he took a different car at the last minute for some reason.

▪️ Born in 1992, Dugina worked as her dad's press secretary, wrote about politics under a pseudonym for the pro-Kremlin outlets RT and Tsargrad, coauthored an upcoming book called "Z Books," and was added to the UK's sanctions list in July."

I'm cool with promoting the idea that the all powerful Ukrainian underground is able to do something like this, but I wonder who really did this as Dugin is supposedly extremely tight with Putin.

[CumbrianLefty]

Personally, it seems like the war is out of the news cycle, and people are growing numb to it. This is a very bad sign for Western unity, and it shows that World War III is getting more likely (since Russia is now more likely to win the war and then start invading other countries.)

Wow, this post manages to be wrong in pretty much every detail. Almost impressive in its own way.

[Woody]

DefMon3 has been suspended from Twitter.

In Mykolaiv oblast, Russians have partially siezed Blahodatne (according to general staff), to the north of Kherson City, in the direction from Snihurivka to Mykolaiv City.

Find it weird that Russians can at all do offensive actions here, especially far away from Kherson.

https://twitter.com/mhmck/status/1561210339718561792

[Person Man]

Alexander Dugin's daughter has died in an apparent car bomb. The bomb might have been meant for Dugin, as they had been at the same event prior to it. In any case, the daughter seems to have shared his father's ideology.

According to preliminary reports the target was Dugin himself but he had left the car with an associate when it blew up. Dugin's daughter was a fascist who relentlessly promoted her father's fascist and genocidal ideology so no tears will be shed here.

She’s been in hell for a day now. An eternity minus one day is still an eternity!

If we want to believe the Russian narrative, this is a huge embarrassment for the Russian security services. This happened in Moscow, not in the Donbass like the 2018 cafe bombing assassination of "DPR" leader and "Prime Minister" Oleksandr Zarchenko.

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1561137226838417408?s=20&t=VbLvdmnf...

"What's currently known about the death of Alexander Dugin's daughter, Daria Dugina:

▪️ The head of the "DNR" has already blamed "terrorists of the Ukrainian regime."

▪️ Dugina was returning from a literary and musical festival in her father's car, but he took a different car at the last minute for some reason.

▪️ Born in 1992, Dugina worked as her dad's press secretary, wrote about politics under a pseudonym for the pro-Kremlin outlets RT and Tsargrad, coauthored an upcoming book called "Z Books," and was added to the UK's sanctions list in July."

I'm cool with promoting the idea that the all powerful Ukrainian underground is able to do something like this, but I wonder who really did this as Dugin is supposedly extremely tight with Putin.

Putin said he wanted denazification.

[Person Man]

Ok this is pretty worrying.

https://twitter.com/JoshNBCNews/status/1560278407954321416?t=WVOtNB_X5bztdZKOEfy...

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1561222353694216193?s=20&t=kfw3sn...

The thing is nuclear power plants aren't something you can just turn off. An immediate disconnect from the grid could bring the cooling towers offline...very not good.

The saving grace is that it is August and latitude 45 North. Prime westerlies real estate. If there is a meltdown, guess who gets to glow in the dark?

[DINGO Joe]

Alexander Dugin's daughter has died in an apparent car bomb. The bomb might have been meant for Dugin, as they had been at the same event prior to it. In any case, the daughter seems to have shared his father's ideology.

According to preliminary reports the target was Dugin himself but he had left the car with an associate when it blew up. Dugin's daughter was a fascist who relentlessly promoted her father's fascist and genocidal ideology so no tears will be shed here.

She’s been in hell for a day now. An eternity minus one day is still an eternity!

If we want to believe the Russian narrative, this is a huge embarrassment for the Russian security services. This happened in Moscow, not in the Donbass like the 2018 cafe bombing assassination of "DPR" leader and "Prime Minister" Oleksandr Zarchenko.

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1561137226838417408?s=20&t=VbLvdmnf...

"What's currently known about the death of Alexander Dugin's daughter, Daria Dugina:

▪️ The head of the "DNR" has already blamed "terrorists of the Ukrainian regime."

▪️ Dugina was returning from a literary and musical festival in her father's car, but he took a different car at the last minute for some reason.

▪️ Born in 1992, Dugina worked as her dad's press secretary, wrote about politics under a pseudonym for the pro-Kremlin outlets RT and Tsargrad, coauthored an upcoming book called "Z Books," and was added to the UK's sanctions list in July."

I'm cool with promoting the idea that the all powerful Ukrainian underground is able to do something like this, but I wonder who really did this as Dugin is supposedly extremely tight with Putin.

Putin said he wanted denazification.

And I guess it's wrong to say Dugin is tight with Putin, when he's useful he's useful, when he's not he's not.  Darya did like to travel to Western Europe and supposedly was used to funnel money to Euronazis and maybe too little got there.  Russian government mafia is always rather violent.

[Logical]

The plot thickens.....
https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1561384191040065536

[Storr]

The plot thickens.....
https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1561384191040065536

Meanwhile the usual suspects are blaming:

https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1561385711323987968?s=20&t=J9qIpEa9...

[AZdude]

The scary part about the Dugina barbecue is how many Russian/pro-Russian Twitter accounts are now saying things like "It's time to take off the gloves."  I don't know what's more delusional, somehow ignoring what Russia has been doing to Ukrainian children for months, or thinking that Russia would stand a chance in any sort of confrontation with NATO.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

The scary part about the Dugina barbecue is how many Russian/pro-Russian Twitter accounts are now saying things like "It's time to take off the gloves."  I don't know what's more delusional, somehow ignoring what Russia has been doing to Ukrainian children for months, or thinking that Russia would stand a chance in any sort of confrontation with NATO.

The delusion isn't just scary; it's one reason why the Russian state might want Dugin dead. If you're preparing to sue for peace and don't want to face a coup, you need the people who will cry "Betrayal!" to be silenced.

Strelkov's been allowed to say all sorts of inflammatory things about Putin on Telegram, but if I were him, I'd shut up now.

[Person Man]

The scary part about the Dugina barbecue is how many Russian/pro-Russian Twitter accounts are now saying things like "It's time to take off the gloves."  I don't know what's more delusional, somehow ignoring what Russia has been doing to Ukrainian children for months, or thinking that Russia would stand a chance in any sort of confrontation with NATO.

Oh, I’m sure they have much more to live for than they think.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

https://twitter.com/NewVoiceUkraine/status/1558454072973430786?t=4rjzAm1986OospD...

[Storr]

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1561463453012971522?s=20&t=UDuJHy...

[Storr]

https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1561412390524256257?s=20&t=UDuJHy...

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1561463453012971522?s=20&t=UDuJHy...

They'll need to be careful not to hit the actual dam, I'd imagine. Could a GMLRS salvo cause it to burst - and if so, how many would any resultant flood endanger?

[DINGO Joe]

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1561463453012971522?s=20&t=UDuJHy...

They'll need to be careful not to hit the actual dam, I'd imagine. Could a GMLRS salvo cause it to burst - and if so, how many would any resultant flood endanger?

Well, they're close to the Black Sea and the river in question is historically shallow with several rapids, so the dam is really about keeping the river navigable for some distance upstream.  So, it's probably not a threat to inhabited areas but maybe to some industrial wharf type areas.

[DINGO Joe]

A never before heard of group of Russian dissidents calling themselves the "National Republican Army" has claimed credit for the Dugin assassination.  This seems to have convinced everyone that it was a FSB hit.

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1561554812797345792

[NOVA Green]

https://twitter.com/NewVoiceUkraine/status/1558454072973430786?t=4rjzAm1986OospD...

Collaborators come and collaborators go...

Life expectancy for Ukrainian Pro-Moscow puppet senior officials within Russian Occupied Ukraine will continue to drop the longer the Russian Occupation Continues.

Even under NAZI occupied Vichy France was not unusual to see Partisans undertaking "spectacular opps" to take out the key collaborators who sided with the occupiers.

The longer Russia continues to maintain the illusion that they can simply subject a population to accept their will using massive force, while meanwhile the entire premise was decades of lies and domestic brainwashing, the harder it will be for Russia to perhaps eventually maintain anything resembling a "normal relationship" with the Ukrainian people, after all the evil that has been done.

Every collaborator has a target on their head, although the partisans have made exceptions for school teachers, utility workers, and certain others within Russian occupied Ukraine.

Still, Russia is effectively a "Fascist Government", by practically any political-science definition of the word, despite the Atlas apologists who attempt to claim the contrary...

I have 0% sympathy for Ukrainian collaborators with the Russian Occupying forces, and if they happen to turn on the keys to the car and it goes "up in smoke", I for one will not shed any tears even for the loss to the wife and family.

Sometimes you reap what you sow...

[Virginiá]

https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1561412390524256257?s=20&t=UDuJHy4JwpC6b5kJA8YTjw

Re: tweet - I don't find it too weird. He is basically just saying Ukraine is so successful with existing weapons now that they don't need it (from America's perspective). In other words, they are doing well enough that the Biden admin. doesn't feel whatever risks they perceive here are worth taking given other weapons and tactics are accomplishing most of the same goals.

But yes, technically yea it's still a non-answer.

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

A never before heard of group of Russian dissidents calling themselves the "National Republican Army" has claimed credit for the Dugin assassination.  This seems to have convinced everyone that it was a FSB hit.

Car bombs are way more typical of actual partisans or terrorists than of the FSB. There are a million ways the FSB could have vanished Dugin or Dugina that wouldn't have made them and the entire regime look totally inept.  Putin is trying to act like everything under control, his supporters getting blown to smitheroons in Moscow completely undermines his appearance of strength.

Most likely it's a lone wolf or small cell looking for attention (since Dugin is both well known to the West and Ukrainians while being far enough from power to be unprotected), possibly with some sort of support from the SBU. Another possibility is that the "NRA" is an SBU front entirely.

[DINGO Joe]

A never before heard of group of Russian dissidents calling themselves the "National Republican Army" has claimed credit for the Dugin assassination.  This seems to have convinced everyone that it was a FSB hit.

Car bombs are way more typical of actual partisans or terrorists than of the FSB. There are a million ways the FSB could have vanished Dugin or Dugina that wouldn't have made them and the entire regime look totally inept.  Putin is trying to act like everything under control, his supporters getting blown to smitheroons in Moscow completely undermines his appearance of strength.

Most likely it's a lone wolf or small cell looking for attention (since Dugin is both well known to the West and Ukrainians while being far enough from power to be unprotected), possibly with some sort of support from the SBU. Another possibility is that the "NRA" is an SBU front entirely.

Based on what I've read today, the odds of who killed Dugina

70% FSB
20% Dugin himself
5% NRA
4.95% Ukraine
0.05% Inhuman Transhumanists

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

A never before heard of group of Russian dissidents calling themselves the "National Republican Army" has claimed credit for the Dugin assassination.  This seems to have convinced everyone that it was a FSB hit.

Car bombs are way more typical of actual partisans or terrorists than of the FSB. There are a million ways the FSB could have vanished Dugin or Dugina that wouldn't have made them and the entire regime look totally inept.  Putin is trying to act like everything under control, his supporters getting blown to smitheroons in Moscow completely undermines his appearance of strength.

Most likely it's a lone wolf or small cell looking for attention (since Dugin is both well known to the West and Ukrainians while being far enough from power to be unprotected), possibly with some sort of support from the SBU. Another possibility is that the "NRA" is an SBU front entirely.

Based on what I've read today, the odds of who killed Dugina

70% FSB
20% Dugin himself
5% NRA
4.95% Ukraine
0.05% Inhuman Transhumanists

So Dugin might have in fact actually sought to arrange a martyrdom for himself?

[DINGO Joe]

A never before heard of group of Russian dissidents calling themselves the "National Republican Army" has claimed credit for the Dugin assassination.  This seems to have convinced everyone that it was a FSB hit.

Car bombs are way more typical of actual partisans or terrorists than of the FSB. There are a million ways the FSB could have vanished Dugin or Dugina that wouldn't have made them and the entire regime look totally inept.  Putin is trying to act like everything under control, his supporters getting blown to smitheroons in Moscow completely undermines his appearance of strength.

Most likely it's a lone wolf or small cell looking for attention (since Dugin is both well known to the West and Ukrainians while being far enough from power to be unprotected), possibly with some sort of support from the SBU. Another possibility is that the "NRA" is an SBU front entirely.

Based on what I've read today, the odds of who killed Dugina

70% FSB
20% Dugin himself
5% NRA
4.95% Ukraine
0.05% Inhuman Transhumanists

So Dugin might have in fact actually sought to arrange a martyrdom for himself?

No, for his daughter

https://mobile.twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1561334515490082817