Russia-Ukraine war and related tensions Megathread

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

This is embarrassing. Have any American planes have had a FF style incident before?

Several times, but I don’t think they’ve filmed it like this.

[Storr]

This is embarrassing. Have any American planes have had a FF style incident before?

I don't know about the US, but on June 5th there was a Ukrainian friendly fire incident where they shot down their own Su-27 near Orikhiv, Zaporizhia Oblast.

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/279043

[Storr]

I was wondering why Ukraine would have launched a HIMARS attack in the afternoon, when almost all attacks have been at night or early in the morning, especially when Nova Kahkova was already hit last night.

https://twitter.com/KyleJGlen/status/1549060845212430337?s=20&t=Oo5gG5wyKJW-...

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1549052085005561862?s=20&t=jdsDLTtGA0...

This might be the answer:

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1549098444752654338?s=20&t=Oo5gG5wy...

[pppolitics]

Russia State TV Promotes Benefits of Losing Son in War: 'A Nice New Car'

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-state-tv-report-losing-son-war-compensation-new-car-1725680

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1548992984946974720
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1549004735172284416

[Storr]

Reported Russian (missile?) attack on Odesa tonight.

https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1549142176554254342?s=20&t=icHwU5_ww...

https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1549148566005977088?s=20&t=iLIH4iAcR9tA...

[Middle-aged Europe]

Just saw this

https://cobi.pl/en/soldiers-figures/ghost-of-kyiv---pilot-figure,art,12978.html

Ghost of Kyiv action figure toys

Reminds me of Starship Troopers 3 "Its a good time to die" Sky Marshal Anoke accessories with "Its a good day to buy"

https://youtu.be/j3sU8NPCYmc?t=38

More like this, I guess.

[jaichind]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/18/eu-signs-deal-with-azerbaijan-to-double-gas-imports-by-2027

"EU signs deal with Azerbaijan to double gas imports by 2027"

Yes, the EU will dump the evil Russians and instead get its gas from a country that will never invade a neighbor.  

BTW, my understanding is that a lot of the Azerbaijan energy assets are partially owned by the Russians anyway.

[bilaps]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/18/eu-signs-deal-with-azerbaijan-to-double-gas-imports-by-2027

"EU signs deal with Azerbaijan to double gas imports by 2027"

Yes, the EU will dump the evil Russians and instead get its gas from a country that will never invade a neighbor.  

BTW, my understanding is that a lot of the Azerbaijan energy assets are partially owned by the Russians anyway.

It's the same thing as Biden with MBS. When they know they're screwed they'll drop all their democracy and human rights bs and shows us all who they really are.

[CumbrianLefty]

So what actually happened in Odessa?

[nicholas.slaydon]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/18/eu-signs-deal-with-azerbaijan-to-double-gas-imports-by-2027

"EU signs deal with Azerbaijan to double gas imports by 2027"

Yes, the EU will dump the evil Russians and instead get its gas from a country that will never invade a neighbor.  

BTW, my understanding is that a lot of the Azerbaijan energy assets are partially owned by the Russians anyway.

It's the same thing as Biden with MBS. When they know they're screwed they'll drop all their democracy and human rights bs and shows us all who they really are.

Nagorno Karabakh is recognized as a part of Azerbaijan, it is Armenia that was illegally occupying it. Azerbaijan has every right to use force in order to restore its territorial integrity. Doing so, does not constitute invading your neighbor, because Azerbaijan's neighbor has no right to be in Nagorno Karabakh at all. It was Armenia that invaded their neighbor, not Azerbaijan .

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/18/eu-signs-deal-with-azerbaijan-to-double-gas-imports-by-2027

"EU signs deal with Azerbaijan to double gas imports by 2027"

Yes, the EU will dump the evil Russians and instead get its gas from a country that will never invade a neighbor.  

BTW, my understanding is that a lot of the Azerbaijan energy assets are partially owned by the Russians anyway.

Nagorno Karabakh is recognized as a part of Azerbaijan, it is Armenia that was illegally occupying it. Azerbaijan has every right to use force in order to restore its territorial integrity. Doing so, does not constitute invading your neighbor, because Azerbaijan's neighbor has no right to be in Nagorno Karabakh at all. It was Armenia that invaded their neighbor, not Azerbaijan .

Under international law, Azerbaijan’s war was probably justified. This doesn’t change that the way it was prosecuted was morally reprehensible, and beheading/ethnically cleansing its own citizens afterwards wasn’t even legally excused by “but they were ethnic Armenians and their leaders committed ethnic cleansing 30 years ago”.

The EU becoming dependent on multiple corrupt petrostates means individual suppliers have less bargaining power unless they all launch wars at the same time, but it’s obviously better to find less comically evil alternatives to the governments of Azerbaijan and Russia.

This should be a short-term backstop at most, but Europe cares about Armenia even less than Ukraine, so I fear it’s likely to last.

[nicholas.slaydon]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/18/eu-signs-deal-with-azerbaijan-to-double-gas-imports-by-2027

"EU signs deal with Azerbaijan to double gas imports by 2027"

Yes, the EU will dump the evil Russians and instead get its gas from a country that will never invade a neighbor.  

BTW, my understanding is that a lot of the Azerbaijan energy assets are partially owned by the Russians anyway.

Nagorno Karabakh is recognized as a part of Azerbaijan, it is Armenia that was illegally occupying it. Azerbaijan has every right to use force in order to restore its territorial integrity. Doing so, does not constitute invading your neighbor, because Azerbaijan's neighbor has no right to be in Nagorno Karabakh at all. It was Armenia that invaded their neighbor, not Azerbaijan .

Under international law, Azerbaijan’s war was probably justified. This doesn’t change that the way it was prosecuted was morally reprehensible, and beheading/ethnically cleansing its own citizens afterwards wasn’t even legally excused by “but they were ethnic Armenians and their leaders committed ethnic cleansing 30 years ago”.

The EU becoming dependent on multiple corrupt petrostates means individual suppliers have less bargaining power unless they all launch wars at the same time, but it’s obviously better to find less comically evil alternatives to the governments of Azerbaijan and Russia.

This should be a short-term backstop at most, but Europe cares about Armenia even less than Ukraine, so I fear it’s likely to last.

I am not trying to dismiss the inappropriate actions of the Azerbaijani military during the war, lest anyone think that I was. Many of their actions along with the actions of the Armenian military were reprehensible. However, there is still no moral equivalency between the Nagorno Karabakh war and the Russian invasion Ukraine. Russian stooges like bilaps might not see the difference, but Armenia was the one who invaded Azerbaijan, and not the other way around like bilaps and jaichind want to make it seem. There is absolutely no moral equivalency between a country restoring its territorial integrity, and one that denies the right of its neighbors to exist, and engages in an imperialist invasion meant to eradicate an entire nation.

[bilaps]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/18/eu-signs-deal-with-azerbaijan-to-double-gas-imports-by-2027

"EU signs deal with Azerbaijan to double gas imports by 2027"

Yes, the EU will dump the evil Russians and instead get its gas from a country that will never invade a neighbor.  

BTW, my understanding is that a lot of the Azerbaijan energy assets are partially owned by the Russians anyway.

Nagorno Karabakh is recognized as a part of Azerbaijan, it is Armenia that was illegally occupying it. Azerbaijan has every right to use force in order to restore its territorial integrity. Doing so, does not constitute invading your neighbor, because Azerbaijan's neighbor has no right to be in Nagorno Karabakh at all. It was Armenia that invaded their neighbor, not Azerbaijan .

Under international law, Azerbaijan’s war was probably justified. This doesn’t change that the way it was prosecuted was morally reprehensible, and beheading/ethnically cleansing its own citizens afterwards wasn’t even legally excused by “but they were ethnic Armenians and their leaders committed ethnic cleansing 30 years ago”.

The EU becoming dependent on multiple corrupt petrostates means individual suppliers have less bargaining power unless they all launch wars at the same time, but it’s obviously better to find less comically evil alternatives to the governments of Azerbaijan and Russia.

This should be a short-term backstop at most, but Europe cares about Armenia even less than Ukraine, so I fear it’s likely to last.

I am not trying to dismiss the inappropriate actions of the Azerbaijani military during the war, lest anyone think that I was. Many of their actions along with the actions of the Armenian military were reprehensible. However, there is still no moral equivalency between the Nagorno Karabakh war and the Russian invasion Ukraine. Russian stooges like bilaps might not see the difference, but Armenia was the one who invaded Azerbaijan, and not the other way around like bilaps and jaichind want to make it seem. There is absolutely no moral equivalency between a country restoring its territorial integrity, and one that denies the right of its neighbors to exist, and engages in an imperialist invasion meant to eradicate an entire nation.

I honestly didn't see something more hypocritic than this post in a long time.

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1549381189336711169

[Storr]

I was wondering why Ukraine would have launched a HIMARS attack in the afternoon, when almost all attacks have been at night or early in the morning, especially when Nova Kahkova was already hit last night.

https://twitter.com/KyleJGlen/status/1549060845212430337?s=20&t=Oo5gG5wyKJW-...

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1549052085005561862?s=20&t=jdsDLTtGA0...

This might be the answer:

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1549098444752654338?s=20&t=Oo5gG5wy...

Answer:

https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1549389941033107456?s=20&t=3qmuaLu3wYE_e...

[Storr]

The Antonovsky Bridge in Kherson was targeted. It's the only crossing of the Dnieper River from its mouth to the Nova Kahkova Dam, a distance as the crow flies of 90km. In video released by the Russian TASS news agency, the damage appears limited to leaving one moderately sized hole in the bridge deck and superstructure:

https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1549353608046682118?s=20&t=3qmuaLu3w...

https://twitter.com/tinso_ww/status/1549364620741300224?s=20&t=pkir9u4HP3FBA...

[nicholas.slaydon]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1549381189336711169

Stage one: Classification (check)
Stage two: Symbolization (check)
Stage three: Dehumanization (check)
Stage four: Organization (check)
Stage five: Polarization (check)
Stage six: Preparation (check)

[The Dowager Mod]

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1549465609896923137

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

The biolabs talking points have returned: https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-says-losing-because-ukraine-104546288.html

Duma MPs have released a report claiming Ukrainian soldiers were subjected to secret experiments in which they were infected with diseases such as tuberculosis and gangrene, then given American drugs, so that they could lose independent consciousness and become hyper-aggressive.

To its credit, the Kommersant article cites a Russian scientist who  is brave enough to claim it’s exaggerated, but the MPs go onto suggest the US could be behind bird flu, swine flu, coronavirus and monkeypox.

[rc18]

EU backsliding on sanctions continues.

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1549405282568110081

[Middle-aged Europe]

The biolabs talking points have returned: https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-says-losing-because-ukraine-104546288.html

Duma MPs have released a report claiming Ukrainian soldiers were subjected to secret experiments in which they were infected with diseases such as tuberculosis and gangrene, then given American drugs, so that they could lose independent consciousness and become hyper-aggressive.

To its credit, the Kommersant article cites a Russian scientist who  is brave enough to claim it’s exaggerated, but the MPs go onto suggest the US could be behind bird flu, swine flu, coronavirus and monkeypox.

HUNTER BIDEN'S BIOLABS ARE CREATING UKRAINIAN SUPER-SOLDIERS

[Storr]

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1549465609896923137

The Ukrainian Air Force claims it was a Russian Su-35 they shot down with AA missiles:

https://twitter.com/KpsZSU/status/1549490183187447808?s=20&t=q_foTgB7m5r0jZW...

[Storr]

Lazurne is quite far from the front lines, 69km from the nearest town under Ukrainian control Oleksandrivka, Kherson Oblast.

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1549470246259548162?s=20&t=sw-dnl...

[Person Man]

The biolabs talking points have returned: https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-says-losing-because-ukraine-104546288.html

Duma MPs have released a report claiming Ukrainian soldiers were subjected to secret experiments in which they were infected with diseases such as tuberculosis and gangrene, then given American drugs, so that they could lose independent consciousness and become hyper-aggressive.

To its credit, the Kommersant article cites a Russian scientist who  is brave enough to claim it’s exaggerated, but the MPs go onto suggest the US could be behind bird flu, swine flu, coronavirus and monkeypox.

HUNTER BIDEN'S BIOLABS ARE CREATING UKRAINIAN SUPER-SOLDIERS

Since they are on “the same side “, I am quite disappointed they weren’t able to work in abortion clinics in someway. They are lazy, so what do you expect?

[Storr]

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1549446109365411845?s=20&t=RieIM-P...