Russia-Ukraine war and related tensions Megathread

[jojoju1998]

And we have an update on who’s supporting Russia! To the surprise of exactly no one, in addition to Syria, Belarus, Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela have come out in support of Russia. Gee, there’s a shining example of stalwart anti-imperialist states opposed to violations of national sovereignty. And they’re such paragons of human rights as well! Truly they’re exactly the type of company one should keep for those champions of revolution worldwide.

China has stayed mute.

So is Vietnam.

[StateBoiler]

It would not surprise me if you dug into their finances you see some funds coming from Russia.

There is a political party presently in power in a large European country that has been dragging its feet on sanctions and which, yes, has received significant financial contributions from Putin-associated Russian oligarchs over the past decade, but it is not the German Green Party.

I didn't say the German Green Party were pro-Russian. I said the German Green Party had positions that were very beneficial to Russian power by making Germany dependent on Russia, and I'm sure Russia has encouraged those positions financially. It's called "useful idiots". And the Greens unlike Die Linke or AfD have actually held and used power in the country.

[Splash]

https://twitter.com/KatieBoLillis/status/1496527145325240324

Newsweek reported that US intelligence informed the Ukrainian government that an invasion could occur within the next 48 hours.

[Bismarck]

And we have an update on who’s supporting Russia! To the surprise of exactly no one, in addition to Syria, Belarus, Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela have come out in support of Russia. Gee, there’s a shining example of stalwart anti-imperialist states opposed to violations of national sovereignty. And they’re such paragons of human rights as well! Truly they’re exactly the type of company one should keep for those champions of revolution worldwide.

China has stayed mute.

So is Vietnam.

Vietnam will stay neutral. They want America’s friendship for economic and security reasons but they are very pro Russia. A huge portion of the Vietnamese elite was educated there during Soviet times.

[Storr]

And we have an update on who’s supporting Russia! To the surprise of exactly no one, in addition to Syria, Belarus, Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela have come out in support of Russia. Gee, there’s a shining example of stalwart anti-imperialist states opposed to violations of national sovereignty. And they’re such paragons of human rights as well! Truly they’re exactly the type of company one should keep for those champions of revolution worldwide.

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China has stayed mute.

So is Vietnam.

Vietnam will stay neutral. They want America’s friendship for economic and security reasons but they are very pro Russia. A huge portion of the Vietnamese elite was educated there during Soviet times.

Exactly, they want strong friends to keep help the Chinese at bay. Vietnam was ruled by imperial China for several centuries and the two countries even fought a brief war in 1979.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

It makes zero sense for Vietnam to pick either side. They may as well be Switzerland here.

[emailking]

The Secretary General is right. Peacekeeping troops have no business being in another country unless they are authorized by the UN or by that country's government.

[jaichind]

"No comment" from India

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/escalation-of-tension-along-russia-ukraine-border-matter-of-deep-concern-india-at-un/article65073117.ece

"Deeply concerned over tensions, says India, but no comment on Russia’s recognition of Ukraine states"

Which wins praises from Russia

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/independent-and-balanced-russia-welcomes-indian-stand-on-ukraine-crisis-101645631388175.html

"‘Independent and balanced’: Russia welcomes Indian stand on Ukraine crisis"

[Person Man]

"No comment" from India

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/escalation-of-tension-along-russia-ukraine-border-matter-of-deep-concern-india-at-un/article65073117.ece

"Deeply concerned over tensions, says India, but no comment on Russia’s recognition of Ukraine states"

Which wins praises from Russia

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/independent-and-balanced-russia-welcomes-indian-stand-on-ukraine-crisis-101645631388175.html

"‘Independent and balanced’: Russia welcomes Indian stand on Ukraine crisis"

That's either a nothingburger of the harbinger of further breaking of economic and diplomatic ties into the future. Potentially great for the romantics that want a 1913 world with nuclear weapons.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

https://twitter.com/KatieBoLillis/status/1496527145325240324

Newsweek reported that US intelligence informed the Ukrainian government that an invasion could occur within the next 48 hours.

NothingBurger 2.0 with extra sauce.

[President Johnson]

https://twitter.com/KatieBoLillis/status/1496527145325240324

Newsweek reported that US intelligence informed the Ukrainian government that an invasion could occur within the next 48 hours.

If that indeed happens, it's time for North Korea level sanctions.

Putin would also expose himself with such a move that the argument about NATO borders and distance or bufferzone was always a bunch of nonsense. Ukraine has borders to NATO members Poland and Romina, so Russia would actually move closer to NATO by occupying Ukraine as a whole.

[Velasco]

Why do self-declared “anti-imperialists” somehow only mean what they perceive as U.S. imperialism to be bad and that it certainly doesn’t refer to the actions of those who are hostile to the U.S.?

LMAO

Two questions:

1) Where did you read I call myself "anti-imperialist"?

2) Where did you read I endorse powers hostile to the US as my default option?

I recall having stated my opposition to an invasion of Ukraine by Russian troops, but anyway let me tell you I can't stand hysterical dumbs.

Ah, not addressing my main point and adding a personal attack on top of it! Classy! I base my comment on your overall posting history, and your repeating the Russian lies over NATO expansion as fact. But anyway let me tell you I can’t stand arrogant, hypocritical, left-wing f***wits.

What's your main point, genius? Didn't you attack me in first place? Don't you know bold letters sound vociferously in the internet?

The NATO extension is one of the main pretexts cited by Putin to justify a possible aggression to Ukraine, yes. Said this, arguing that I'm repeating "Putin's lies" because I think such thing was a mistake reveals ignorance, lack of reading comprehension and bad faith.

My criticism on the quick extension of the NATO and the EU, as well as the attitude of the West towards the fotmer USSR after its collapse, is not aimed at justifying reactionary autocrats like Vladimir Putin

The collapse of the USSR and the subsequent chaos caused a serious impact that affected the psychology and self-esteem of the Russian people. Many Russians felt they were humiliated by the West and are longing a comeback of Russia as a global superpower. Putin takes advantage of these feelings, not unlike German nationalists took advantage of the feelings of humiliation caused by the defeat in WWI and especially by the Treaty of Versailles

As I outlined in a previous post, the best way to prevent the rise of certain brand of nationalism in Russia was not expanding the NATO to the east. The end of the Cold War opened a window of opportunity to build a different international order. I'm not speaking about "spheres of influence " or "buffer zones", but rather about some sort of Marshall plan. What was the point in preservIng the NATO once the Cold War was over? In the beginning Mikhail Gorbachev had the intent to transform the crumnbling USSR, following the socialdemocratic path of the Nordic countries. Why the West didn't help him and opted to isolate Russia instead? Either ideological arrogance or blindness prevented the West from realizing of the dangers. Putin's nationalism is in good part a consequence of that.

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/1496575365137022985

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

It makes zero sense for Vietnam to pick either side. They may as well be Switzerland here.

Speaking about Switzerland:

https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1496559219214069760

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

It makes zero sense for Vietnam to pick either side. They may as well be Switzerland here.

Speaking about Switzerland:

https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1496559219214069760

₽500 (500 rubles) says that Putin and Co have a significant amount of money parked in Swiss banks.

[Torie]

No doubt this word vomit from the sociopath has already been reported here. Just when you think the man can't sink any lower, he does.

"Complicating the response from the GOP, Trump this week hailed Putin’s tactics in Ukraine as “genius,” saying the Russian president’s characterization of invading troops as “peacekeepers” was a move both “smart” and “savvy.” 

'The praise drew the immediate condemnation from members of both parties, including Cheney, who said the 45th president’s “adulation” of Putin “aids our enemies.” 

https://thehill.com/policy/international/595485-divided-gop-unites-around-blaming-biden-for-ukraine-crisis

[jojoju1998]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXC-jJhFaUI


I just have to share this...

[Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️]

Possible major false flag incoming

https://twitter.com/MarQs__/status/1496584567779696643

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1496578668411428864

[Santander]

As a federal subject of Russia, yes.

[Amanda Huggenkiss]

Ukraine is and has always been the rightful property of Russia.

Then Kaliningrad is and has always been the rightful property of Germany. /s

[Splash]

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1496587959881113600

[It’s so Joever]

Dear gosh, the major world war was supposed to happen before the pandemic that kicks off the ‘20s. Do the scriptwriters not know anything about worldbuilding?

[NYSforKennedy2024]

https://twitter.com/Faaytuks/status/1496601501539651584

[Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️]

There is a lot of stuff on twitter now, moving too fast to really re-post all here coherently. A lot of stuff regarding possible electronic warfare also, so if you read this message, take a minute to make sure you have up to date anti-virus installed and turned on, and turn on a VPN if you have one to help make sure you don't become collateral damage somehow.

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1496604202147143683

https://twitter.com/Faaytuks/status/1496601501539651584

https://twitter.com/Blake_Allen13/status/1496604829904420865

https://twitter.com/ignis_fatum/status/1496605035685363712