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« Reply #21700 on: May 12, 2023, 09:47:54 AM »


Lol the dude is like a day away from saying “Russia has fallen, billions must die”
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« Reply #21701 on: May 12, 2023, 10:17:29 AM »

What glorious news to wake up to.
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« Reply #21702 on: May 12, 2023, 10:59:25 AM »

Again guys, still very early on. Prigozhin dooming as always. This attack was expected. I'll believe Russians are in serious danger when Klischiivka falls in the south and Berkhivka settlement in the north falls. As for now, any actual talk of encirclement of the city is inappropriate. For now there has not been any major breakthroughs.
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« Reply #21703 on: May 12, 2023, 11:14:01 AM »

Something I haven't seen discussed much about Wagner is that all the surviving prisonor troops who signed up in September, October, and November have had their 6 month terms all end. Survival rates weren't high but those who did survive had to have been fairly elite troops.
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« Reply #21704 on: May 12, 2023, 11:15:44 AM »

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« Reply #21705 on: May 12, 2023, 11:36:36 AM »

Again guys, still very early on. Prigozhin dooming as always. This attack was expected. I'll believe Russians are in serious danger when Klischiivka falls in the south and Berkhivka settlement in the north falls. As for now, any actual talk of encirclement of the city is inappropriate. For now there has not been any major breakthroughs.

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« Reply #21706 on: May 12, 2023, 12:38:46 PM »

Again guys, still very early on. Prigozhin dooming as always. This attack was expected. I'll believe Russians are in serious danger when Klischiivka falls in the south and Berkhivka settlement in the north falls. As for now, any actual talk of encirclement of the city is inappropriate. For now there has not been any major breakthroughs.

I have good news for you.

Russia is planning a village for people just like you.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-may-build-village-american-conservatives-1799809
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« Reply #21707 on: May 12, 2023, 12:46:00 PM »

Prigozhin may indeed be "dooming", but the mere fact he is doing so is surely an indicator that not everything is going Russia's way.
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« Reply #21708 on: May 12, 2023, 12:48:05 PM »

He was fighting since 2014. He was one of those captured in Azovstal, and managed to be exchanged back.

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« Reply #21709 on: May 12, 2023, 01:07:44 PM »

Again guys, still very early on. Prigozhin dooming as always. This attack was expected. I'll believe Russians are in serious danger when Klischiivka falls in the south and Berkhivka settlement in the north falls. As for now, any actual talk of encirclement of the city is inappropriate. For now there has not been any major breakthroughs.

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« Reply #21710 on: May 12, 2023, 01:51:05 PM »

Again guys, still very early on. Prigozhin dooming as always. This attack was expected. I'll believe Russians are in serious danger when Klischiivka falls in the south and Berkhivka settlement in the north falls. As for now, any actual talk of encirclement of the city is inappropriate. For now there has not been any major breakthroughs.

Yesterday you were calling this a "Twitter offensive" (eg a nothingburger):

Yeah, no, this is a Twitter offensive. Seems like cope because I have found literally nothing. They entered some positions in a gray area west of the water channels and that's pretty much it. Meanwhile Wagner still advancing in city itself.

..when, sure, it isn't some Autumn-esque Thunder run through Kharkiv Oblast, but it's clearly more than what you thought the other day. You are so eager to tell everyone here that they are wrong and overdosing on copium that you are tripping over your own incorrect conclusions.
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« Reply #21711 on: May 12, 2023, 02:20:40 PM »

Prigozhin looks like an angry gnome. Anyway I thought Bakhmut was supposed to fall in February what gives??? The Sons of Kovpak are much better at war than Yevgeny and Vlad.
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« Reply #21712 on: May 12, 2023, 02:26:45 PM »

Something I haven't seen discussed much about Wagner is that all the surviving prisonor troops who signed up in September, October, and November have had their 6 month terms all end. Survival rates weren't high but those who did survive had to have been fairly elite troops.
I guess that's one positive thing for Wagner admist a lot of bad news.
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« Reply #21713 on: May 12, 2023, 02:37:19 PM »

Inertia in mud season can be overcame, but perhaps it has been sorely underestimated.
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« Reply #21714 on: May 12, 2023, 03:58:35 PM »

I don't see Klischiivka and Berkhivka having much to do about anything. The danger to Ukraine was the cutting off of the access road. With the Russians now having fled to behind the two water barriers, the access road appears to be safe. In fact, it is now more "protected" by the two bodies of water. So if Wagner etc want to throw more bodies for slaughter against the Ukraine defensive line, they can keep doing so. The idea I suspect is to get Russia to have as many forces as possible committed to the Bahkmut meat grinder. Best of all would be to have Putin himself go down there and lead the charge.


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« Reply #21715 on: May 12, 2023, 04:09:39 PM »
« Edited: May 12, 2023, 04:12:48 PM by Devout Centrist »

Again guys, still very early on. Prigozhin dooming as always. This attack was expected. I'll believe Russians are in serious danger when Klischiivka falls in the south and Berkhivka settlement in the north falls. As for now, any actual talk of encirclement of the city is inappropriate. For now there has not been any major breakthroughs.
No, it's just that the Ukrainian probing attacks have melted the Russian lines like butter. Is this the fabled spring counteroffensive? Probably not, but this is a truly pathetic result after the whole Wagner-Bakhmut fiasco.
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« Reply #21716 on: May 12, 2023, 04:13:34 PM »
« Edited: May 12, 2023, 04:21:08 PM by Storr »

A sitting member of the Russian Duma injured (looks to be lightly, if at all) by an AFU attack on Luhansk city. And yes, his English wikipedia profile picture makes him look like a Star Wars villain:




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« Reply #21717 on: May 12, 2023, 04:20:12 PM »

A sitting member of the Russian Duma injured (looks to be lightly) by an AFU attack on Luhansk city. And yes, his wikipedia profile picture makes him look like a Star Wars villain:




This is the Russian wikipedia article about him
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He was made a "Hero of the Lug-ansk People's Republic (2022)".
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« Reply #21718 on: May 12, 2023, 04:30:49 PM »

Something I haven't seen discussed much about Wagner is that all the surviving prisonor troops who signed up in September, October, and November have had their 6 month terms all end. Survival rates weren't high but those who did survive had to have been fairly elite troops.
I guess that's one positive thing for Wagner admist a lot of bad news.

No its bad news for Wagner because they are no longer serving. The MOD also stopped the Wagner recruitment process.
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« Reply #21719 on: May 12, 2023, 04:42:26 PM »

Prigozhin looks like an angry gnome. Anyway I thought Bakhmut was supposed to fall in February what gives??? The Sons of Kovpak are much better at war than Yevgeny and Vlad.

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« Reply #21720 on: May 12, 2023, 04:53:46 PM »

Again guys, still very early on. Prigozhin dooming as always. This attack was expected. I'll believe Russians are in serious danger when Klischiivka falls in the south and Berkhivka settlement in the north falls. As for now, any actual talk of encirclement of the city is inappropriate. For now there has not been any major breakthroughs.



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« Reply #21721 on: May 12, 2023, 05:00:57 PM »

Merrick Garland has OK’d the transfer of frozen Russian assets to Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-attorney-general-oks-transfer-forfeited-funds-russia-oligarch-use-ukraine-2023-05-10/
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« Reply #21722 on: May 12, 2023, 05:01:52 PM »

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Russia tried to destroy a US-made Patriot air defense system in Ukraine last week with a hypersonic missile, two US officials told CNN.

The attack failed, and the Ukrainian military instead intercepted the missile using the Patriot system, the officials said, marking their first known successful Ukrainian use of the advanced air defense system only weeks after it arrived in country.


https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/12/politics/russia-patriot-missiles-ukraine/index.html


It's seems that Woody's hypersonic missiles failed.
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« Reply #21723 on: May 12, 2023, 05:07:21 PM »

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Russia tried to destroy US-made Patriot system in Ukraine.

Russia tried to destroy a US-made Patriot air defense system in Ukraine last week with a hypersonic missile, two US officials told CNN.

The attack failed, and the Ukrainian military instead intercepted the missile using the Patriot system, the officials said, marking their first known successful Ukrainian use of the advanced air defense system only weeks after it arrived in country.


https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/12/politics/russia-patriot-missiles-ukraine/index.html


It's seems that Woody's hypersonic missiles failed.
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Russian wonderweapons/marketing stunts failed to have any noticeable impact? I’m shocked, shocked,
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« Reply #21724 on: May 12, 2023, 05:09:13 PM »



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