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« Reply #16750 on: October 24, 2022, 03:23:25 AM »

Called it.


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« Reply #16751 on: October 24, 2022, 07:52:48 AM »

https://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-sanctions-turmoil-iran-says-will-provide-russia-with-40-gas-turbines/

"Amid sanctions turmoil, Iran says will provide Russia with 40 gas turbines"
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« Reply #16752 on: October 24, 2022, 08:45:18 AM »

I'm sure a crowdfunding campaign would be able to fund a replacement statue and bust. Then again, I doubt Ukraine would replace statues of Russian war heroes.

Hopefully this means the Russians are actually leaving Kherson.

Edit: The telegram post mentions "evacuating" the remains of Grigory Potemkin. It turns out Potemkin's tomb is indeed in Kherson at Saint Catherine's Cathedral



It is becoming patently clear that Russian actions in Ukraine are increasingly fitting into a deliberate pattern of Genocide.

Russia's latest invasion and occupations of Ukraine, and all of the actions conducted during their latest War Against Ukraine 2.0, appear to be clearly designed to eliminate Ukraine, not only as a sovereign nation, but also to eliminate their very identity as well, from forcing children in their occupied areas to speak Russian, forced relocation of populations, practicing ruthless torture, rape, and murder for those who oppose their rule.

"De-Nazification" of Ukraine in reality is a propaganda smokescreen so that ordinary Russians, not to mention Russian soldiers can justify their brutality, while the reality is the very elimination of Ukrainian cultural identity and being completed absorbed / assimilated into the "Russian Cultural Identity".

This is for real, and all free peoples, and free-minded peoples throughout the world need to recognize this is exactly what "Mother Russia" is attempting and actually performing.

Omg, epic fail. Suvorov, Potemkin, and Ushakov are all Russians who served Imperial Russia lol.
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« Reply #16753 on: October 24, 2022, 09:18:38 AM »

I'm sure a crowdfunding campaign would be able to fund a replacement statue and bust. Then again, I doubt Ukraine would replace statues of Russian war heroes.

Hopefully this means the Russians are actually leaving Kherson.

Edit: The telegram post mentions "evacuating" the remains of Grigory Potemkin. It turns out Potemkin's tomb is indeed in Kherson at Saint Catherine's Cathedral



It is becoming patently clear that Russian actions in Ukraine are increasingly fitting into a deliberate pattern of Genocide.

Russia's latest invasion and occupations of Ukraine, and all of the actions conducted during their latest War Against Ukraine 2.0, appear to be clearly designed to eliminate Ukraine, not only as a sovereign nation, but also to eliminate their very identity as well, from forcing children in their occupied areas to speak Russian, forced relocation of populations, practicing ruthless torture, rape, and murder for those who oppose their rule.

"De-Nazification" of Ukraine in reality is a propaganda smokescreen so that ordinary Russians, not to mention Russian soldiers can justify their brutality, while the reality is the very elimination of Ukrainian cultural identity and being completed absorbed / assimilated into the "Russian Cultural Identity".

This is for real, and all free peoples, and free-minded peoples throughout the world need to recognize this is exactly what "Mother Russia" is attempting and actually performing.

Omg, epic fail. Suvorov, Potemkin, and Ushakov are all Russians who served Imperial Russia lol.
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« Reply #16754 on: October 24, 2022, 09:44:06 AM »

I'm sure a crowdfunding campaign would be able to fund a replacement statue and bust. Then again, I doubt Ukraine would replace statues of Russian war heroes.

Hopefully this means the Russians are actually leaving Kherson.

Edit: The telegram post mentions "evacuating" the remains of Grigory Potemkin. It turns out Potemkin's tomb is indeed in Kherson at Saint Catherine's Cathedral



It is becoming patently clear that Russian actions in Ukraine are increasingly fitting into a deliberate pattern of Genocide.

Russia's latest invasion and occupations of Ukraine, and all of the actions conducted during their latest War Against Ukraine 2.0, appear to be clearly designed to eliminate Ukraine, not only as a sovereign nation, but also to eliminate their very identity as well, from forcing children in their occupied areas to speak Russian, forced relocation of populations, practicing ruthless torture, rape, and murder for those who oppose their rule.

"De-Nazification" of Ukraine in reality is a propaganda smokescreen so that ordinary Russians, not to mention Russian soldiers can justify their brutality, while the reality is the very elimination of Ukrainian cultural identity and being completed absorbed / assimilated into the "Russian Cultural Identity".

This is for real, and all free peoples, and free-minded peoples throughout the world need to recognize this is exactly what "Mother Russia" is attempting and actually performing.

Omg, epic fail. Suvorov, Potemkin, and Ushakov are all Russians who served Imperial Russia lol.

So they are doing.......self-owns?
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« Reply #16755 on: October 24, 2022, 10:42:37 AM »

I'm sure a crowdfunding campaign would be able to fund a replacement statue and bust. Then again, I doubt Ukraine would replace statues of Russian war heroes.

Hopefully this means the Russians are actually leaving Kherson.

Edit: The telegram post mentions "evacuating" the remains of Grigory Potemkin. It turns out Potemkin's tomb is indeed in Kherson at Saint Catherine's Cathedral



It is becoming patently clear that Russian actions in Ukraine are increasingly fitting into a deliberate pattern of Genocide.

Russia's latest invasion and occupations of Ukraine, and all of the actions conducted during their latest War Against Ukraine 2.0, appear to be clearly designed to eliminate Ukraine, not only as a sovereign nation, but also to eliminate their very identity as well, from forcing children in their occupied areas to speak Russian, forced relocation of populations, practicing ruthless torture, rape, and murder for those who oppose their rule.

"De-Nazification" of Ukraine in reality is a propaganda smokescreen so that ordinary Russians, not to mention Russian soldiers can justify their brutality, while the reality is the very elimination of Ukrainian cultural identity and being completed absorbed / assimilated into the "Russian Cultural Identity".

This is for real, and all free peoples, and free-minded peoples throughout the world need to recognize this is exactly what "Mother Russia" is attempting and actually performing.

Omg, epic fail. Suvorov, Potemkin, and Ushakov are all Russians who served Imperial Russia lol.

So they are doing.......self-owns?
And cutting the communications cables because they definitely aren't preparing to leave.



Hmm....


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« Reply #16756 on: October 24, 2022, 10:47:52 AM »
« Edited: October 24, 2022, 11:01:36 AM by Storr »



Seems legit:






Russia must be feeling desperate if they're playing the nuclear card this obviously.
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« Reply #16757 on: October 24, 2022, 10:53:21 AM »



Seems legit:




Russia must be feeling desperate if they're playing the nuclear card this obviously.

Russia might be spreading clickbait idiotic nonsense because on the actual battlefield:

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« Reply #16758 on: October 24, 2022, 11:18:03 AM »

I'm sure a crowdfunding campaign would be able to fund a replacement statue and bust. Then again, I doubt Ukraine would replace statues of Russian war heroes.

Hopefully this means the Russians are actually leaving Kherson.

Edit: The telegram post mentions "evacuating" the remains of Grigory Potemkin. It turns out Potemkin's tomb is indeed in Kherson at Saint Catherine's Cathedral



It is becoming patently clear that Russian actions in Ukraine are increasingly fitting into a deliberate pattern of Genocide.

Russia's latest invasion and occupations of Ukraine, and all of the actions conducted during their latest War Against Ukraine 2.0, appear to be clearly designed to eliminate Ukraine, not only as a sovereign nation, but also to eliminate their very identity as well, from forcing children in their occupied areas to speak Russian, forced relocation of populations, practicing ruthless torture, rape, and murder for those who oppose their rule.

"De-Nazification" of Ukraine in reality is a propaganda smokescreen so that ordinary Russians, not to mention Russian soldiers can justify their brutality, while the reality is the very elimination of Ukrainian cultural identity and being completed absorbed / assimilated into the "Russian Cultural Identity".

This is for real, and all free peoples, and free-minded peoples throughout the world need to recognize this is exactly what "Mother Russia" is attempting and actually performing.

Omg, epic fail. Suvorov, Potemkin, and Ushakov are all Russians who served Imperial Russia lol.
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They are probably trying to prevent what the Vandals did in 455 to Rome. The stealing the minorah from the temple. Once Ukraine falls, they will lose those symbols forever.
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« Reply #16759 on: October 24, 2022, 11:23:47 AM »

Remember when Medvedev was considered a "reformer" by the west?



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« Reply #16760 on: October 24, 2022, 12:20:08 PM »
« Edited: October 24, 2022, 12:25:05 PM by Storr »

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« Reply #16761 on: October 24, 2022, 01:59:43 PM »

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« Reply #16762 on: October 24, 2022, 02:15:45 PM »

I'm sure a crowdfunding campaign would be able to fund a replacement statue and bust. Then again, I doubt Ukraine would replace statues of Russian war heroes.

Hopefully this means the Russians are actually leaving Kherson.

Edit: The telegram post mentions "evacuating" the remains of Grigory Potemkin. It turns out Potemkin's tomb is indeed in Kherson at Saint Catherine's Cathedral



It is becoming patently clear that Russian actions in Ukraine are increasingly fitting into a deliberate pattern of Genocide.

Russia's latest invasion and occupations of Ukraine, and all of the actions conducted during their latest War Against Ukraine 2.0, appear to be clearly designed to eliminate Ukraine, not only as a sovereign nation, but also to eliminate their very identity as well, from forcing children in their occupied areas to speak Russian, forced relocation of populations, practicing ruthless torture, rape, and murder for those who oppose their rule.

"De-Nazification" of Ukraine in reality is a propaganda smokescreen so that ordinary Russians, not to mention Russian soldiers can justify their brutality, while the reality is the very elimination of Ukrainian cultural identity and being completed absorbed / assimilated into the "Russian Cultural Identity".

This is for real, and all free peoples, and free-minded peoples throughout the world need to recognize this is exactly what "Mother Russia" is attempting and actually performing.

Omg, epic fail. Suvorov, Potemkin, and Ushakov are all Russians who served Imperial Russia lol.
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They are probably trying to prevent what the Vandals did in 455 to Rome. The stealing the minorah from the temple. Once Ukraine falls, they will lose those symbols forever.
But what's the motivation for looting the valuables from the puppet theater?
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« Reply #16763 on: October 24, 2022, 03:28:37 PM »

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« Reply #16764 on: October 24, 2022, 03:43:16 PM »


In a just world all these people would be sent to the Hague
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« Reply #16765 on: October 24, 2022, 04:08:04 PM »


In a just world all these people would be sent to the Hague

In a just world, they would be studied.
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« Reply #16766 on: October 24, 2022, 04:09:26 PM »

I'm sure a crowdfunding campaign would be able to fund a replacement statue and bust. Then again, I doubt Ukraine would replace statues of Russian war heroes.

Hopefully this means the Russians are actually leaving Kherson.

Edit: The telegram post mentions "evacuating" the remains of Grigory Potemkin. It turns out Potemkin's tomb is indeed in Kherson at Saint Catherine's Cathedral



It is becoming patently clear that Russian actions in Ukraine are increasingly fitting into a deliberate pattern of Genocide.

Russia's latest invasion and occupations of Ukraine, and all of the actions conducted during their latest War Against Ukraine 2.0, appear to be clearly designed to eliminate Ukraine, not only as a sovereign nation, but also to eliminate their very identity as well, from forcing children in their occupied areas to speak Russian, forced relocation of populations, practicing ruthless torture, rape, and murder for those who oppose their rule.

"De-Nazification" of Ukraine in reality is a propaganda smokescreen so that ordinary Russians, not to mention Russian soldiers can justify their brutality, while the reality is the very elimination of Ukrainian cultural identity and being completed absorbed / assimilated into the "Russian Cultural Identity".

This is for real, and all free peoples, and free-minded peoples throughout the world need to recognize this is exactly what "Mother Russia" is attempting and actually performing.

Omg, epic fail. Suvorov, Potemkin, and Ushakov are all Russians who served Imperial Russia lol.
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They are probably trying to prevent what the Vandals did in 455 to Rome. The stealing the minorah from the temple. Once Ukraine falls, they will lose those symbols forever.
But what's the motivation for looting the valuables from the puppet theater?

Trust me. Knowing them, it could be for many many reasons. Some of them are less safe for work than others.
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« Reply #16767 on: October 24, 2022, 05:20:14 PM »

Based on Russian propaganda you get that impression.

Though it's more of an imperialism cult, imo. Russia has to be a world power, Russia has to have its sphere of influence, Russia must take back what is rightfully hers, etc.



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« Reply #16768 on: October 24, 2022, 05:21:48 PM »

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/10/24/wave-of-lng-tankers-overwhelms-europe-and-hits-natural-gas-prices.html

"Wave of LNG tankers is overwhelming Europe in energy crisis and hitting natural gas prices"

EU ability to process LNG has been exceeded
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« Reply #16769 on: October 24, 2022, 05:33:39 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/24/biden-ukraine-liberals/

"Liberal lawmakers urge Biden to shift Ukraine strategy"

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A group of 30 House liberals is urging President Biden to dramatically shift his strategy on the Ukraine war and pursue direct negotiations with Russia, the first time prominent members of his own party have pushed him to change his approach to Ukraine. 
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« Reply #16770 on: October 24, 2022, 05:44:22 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/24/biden-ukraine-liberals/

"Liberal lawmakers urge Biden to shift Ukraine strategy"

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A group of 30 House liberals is urging President Biden to dramatically shift his strategy on the Ukraine war and pursue direct negotiations with Russia, the first time prominent members of his own party have pushed him to change his approach to Ukraine. 
This out of touch and egomaniacal viewpoint that we can somehow negotiate the end of this war on Ukraine’s behalf like it isn’t a sovereign nation with its own agency has been something to behold play out during this conflict 
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« Reply #16771 on: October 24, 2022, 06:47:54 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/24/biden-ukraine-liberals/

"Liberal lawmakers urge Biden to shift Ukraine strategy"

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A group of 30 House liberals is urging President Biden to dramatically shift his strategy on the Ukraine war and pursue direct negotiations with Russia, the first time prominent members of his own party have pushed him to change his approach to Ukraine. 

Gee, let me guess. Cori Bush? Bowman? Ocasio-Cortez?
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« Reply #16772 on: October 24, 2022, 07:52:10 PM »

WSJ article today on how Winter might impact the War in Ukraine:

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Winter is approaching on the Ukrainian steppe. As temperatures fall, waves of chilling rain follow, dissolving roads and fields, turning them to mud that mires men and equipment. Then comes the deep freeze and snow, hardening the ground but making it tougher to fight.

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Western officials said Ukraine will likely be better equipped than the Russians, thanks to Western supplies, and its soldiers are better motivated. But any Ukrainian advances are likely to be slowed by winter conditions. Russia, which Western analysts say has little chance of advancing, has the easier job of defending territory. 

On the battlefield, the commander of a Ukrainian unit in the country’s east said winter will make it much harder for his soldiers to conceal themselves.

The war in eastern Ukraine is in large part an artillery war. Ukrainian troops fire then move quickly to another location, knowing that Russia is likely to strike at the location the shells were fired from. On snow, the tracks of the Ukrainians’ vehicles will be visible to Russian drones and can be used to pinpoint the place the soldiers moved to. If the soldiers light a fire to warm themselves, they will be even more visible and the lack of leaves on trees will expose them further.

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Yury Bereza, commander of the Dnipro-1 battalion of Ukraine’s National Guard, says each of the 1,500 men under his command are being equipped with spare pairs of boots and warm blankets as winter sets in. “Winter first and foremost means wet boots and socks,” he said. “We have to prepare for that.”

In the network of trenches his men have dug on the outskirts of Slovyansk in eastern Ukraine, they have large reserves of wood and camp stoves, he said.

Mr. Bereza, who has fought the war against Russia since 2014, noted the difference between winter in eastern Ukraine, where temperatures can plummet to minus-20 degrees Celsius (minus-4 Fahrenheit), and the south where they tend to be milder.

He said both sides will struggle once temperatures fall and the ground freezes, but believes the Russians will suffer more. “It’s only in commercials that Russian equipment works in minus-20 degrees,” he said. “Ours functions better, but in reality everything slows down, and we need extra fuel and oil to make sure our equipment doesn’t break down.”



https://www.wsj.com/articles/winters-onset-will-change-russias-war-in-ukraine-11666608971?mod=hp_lead_pos7
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« Reply #16773 on: October 24, 2022, 07:58:23 PM »

Assuming this is a true video, it once again reinforces not only the brutality of Russian Military culture from hazing, etc... but also again demonstrates how rife and widespread racial, ethnic, and religious intolerance is within the Russian Military (and likely from the dominant ethnic Russian majority population).

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« Reply #16774 on: October 24, 2022, 08:00:04 PM »

Meanwhile Chechen Mobniks received a warm Ukrainian welcome in Kherson Oblast...

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