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Just Passion Through
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« on: November 05, 2021, 04:48:33 PM »

What's interesting is that you're running more or less on the same things I did, without embracing Trump or Trumpism. I wrote the inaugural address a week ago and it's about as Trumpy (in terms of rhetoric) a modern leftist can go and somewhere in the avenue of the OP. So an attempt to reclaim the electoral hold Labor has on the working-class by running on the same message but without any of the accomplishments in office (or an actual band of corporate elites to run against) to prove you've fought for those issues should be... interesting.
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2021, 06:16:36 PM »

You cannot use executive orders to repeal laws.

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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2021, 02:40:02 PM »

I think it's a long-accepted tradition, just generally speaking, that executive orders should be used sparingly. For a time I considered an executive order granting licensed hunters the right to weapons prohibited by the AWB, but that would also be a massive reach from the executive branch and I'm not confident enough in that move's constitutionality to do it. Even though I maintain my opposition to the AWB.

This is one of many things fantasy government gets right over real government: a common understanding of the separation of powers and a limit on executive power, which has grown substantially over the last 20 years OTL.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2021, 04:00:00 PM »
« Edited: November 17, 2021, 04:16:58 PM by President Scott☀️ »

The streets are peaceful. What "social justice madness"? All three regions and the federal government have passed police reform and that is why people like George Floyd and Jacob Blake are both alive and well, and because we acted to solve problems early on, both the police-civilian relationship as well as COVID cases are a remarkable improvement over OTL unless the GM decides otherwise. And although we're currently awaiting a news dump (mostly for FoPo stuff), there's nothing yet to suggest that Atlasia is headed for a negative turn on either those things.

Also, not that I would ever expect either of our justices to sign off on a president repealing laws with executive orders, but what you are advocating for is tyranny and lawlessness. And that will backfire when the next person takes office and chooses to unilaterally change or repeal other laws to suit their own whims. Maybe an executive repeal of free expression or the right to own all firearms is next on the chopping block?

Chaos does generate activity I suppose. Just keep in mind that Trumpism and Trump-like behavior will not help the right win any elections and refusing, as a new player, to learn how the game works doesn't earn you any friends or supporters. If your sole reason for being here is to cosplay as Trump, well knock yourself out I guess.

I would consider listening to Yankee, though. He's seen this movie before.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2021, 08:29:16 PM »

The streets are peaceful. What "social justice madness"?

The communist party got 17% of the vote in the October elections.  Anarchist groups and secessionists like Wulfric wish to disrupt the nation's social order, regardless of your acknowledgement.

That's all very different from unrest in the streets.

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Also, not that I would ever expect either of our justices to sign off on a president repealing laws with executive orders, but what you are advocating for is tyranny and lawlessness.

I would argue that passing a national vaccine mandate is tyranny.  What's worse is that everyone supports it.  How I repeal the mandate when I win bigly is up for debate, but if an executive order is determined to be unconstitutional, I will seek other legal ways to get it done.

You're certainly entitled to believe that about the mandate but that does not give you any power to unilaterally weaken or repeal it. Either the Supreme Court would have to strike it down or the Senate would need to pass a bill repealing it.

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Chaos does generate activity I suppose. Just keep in mind that Trumpism and Trump-like behavior will not help the right win any elections and refusing, as a new player, to learn how the game works doesn't earn you any friends or supporters.

I'm not here to make friends with the establishment.  The voters are largely not engaged with what's happening anyway, so it all comes down to first appearances and turnout drives.  I know my chances of winning outright are near zero, but I feel my candidacy can boost turnout and help conservative causes win, as what happened this week when Utah Neolib defeated S019.  Remember, federalists endorsed Utah Neolib before Greg came along, who I might add was inspired to run by my amazing new party.

I would consider listening to Yankee, though. He's seen this movie before.

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You're clearly not here to listen either. Well, you've certainly got your character nailed down.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2021, 02:11:24 PM »

Atlasia has a ton of things, but I don't think "a sizable rural contingent" is one of them Tongue

"Almost like" serves a purpose in there Tack. As in a bunch of decidedly non-rural people who are registered in Western states and embrace certain rural populist issues. Tongue

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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2021, 07:00:35 PM »

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Incidents like the June 2021 election debacle will not happen again with better voting laws.

(Big) Lying Santa!
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2021, 03:17:18 PM »

Mostly based

I'd prioritize different issues (immigration, trade, and guns)

Feel free to shoot me a message with ideas.  I am open to adding positions on the platform, especially from fellow party members.

May I say, as LT's running mate back in June, that there was no fraud in that election. Sev won fairly and I want no part in any "big lie" redux.

LT did not refuse to concede the election for no reason.  The moderator in question who invalidated the votes was a Labor supporter. It should have been pursued, but the weak Federalist party did not want to back him up.  He is welcome to join the Patriots if he wants!  With better election laws, there will be zero election fraud.  Every vote should count.

No moderator invalidated your vote. Peebs invalidated your vote on the grounds that you posted twice in the voting booth, contrary to the election laws. This was evidence by the fact that the deleted vote was visible in the recycled posts board.   

I had a strict no deletion/editing policy in the voting booth until after certification from the time I became Board Moderator, this actually annoyed Virginia and others who like for reported posts to be acted on as soon as possible.

Whatever you may think of me, don't think for a minute that I had a hand in "invalidating your vote". You did that to yourself.

Virginia has since removed the ability to delete posts in the voting booth sub board, so what happened to you can never happen again, because you physically cannot delete your own vote.

Now the only area where people can screw themselves over and others in the process is via editing too late (20 minutes or afterwards). 

You can't even edit your ballot after that period anymore (obviously exempting you as mod). So actually the only way to invalidate your vote is to post in a voting booth twice.

There is no reason to change the election laws in any significant way. We just need good-faith attempts at making our voting intentions clear and good-faith interpretation of those ballots. But yes, problems we've had in the past are less likely to occur today.

I know you've felt differently but I don't believe there is any appetite for restricting ballots in any way such as those that contain personal attacks or comments. Though it should be discouraged so that people will air their grievances in AFE.
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The world will shine with light in our nightmare
Just Passion Through
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Posts: 45,275
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Political Matrix
E: -6.32, S: -7.48

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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2021, 07:00:07 PM »

Mostly based

I'd prioritize different issues (immigration, trade, and guns)

Feel free to shoot me a message with ideas.  I am open to adding positions on the platform, especially from fellow party members.

May I say, as LT's running mate back in June, that there was no fraud in that election. Sev won fairly and I want no part in any "big lie" redux.

LT did not refuse to concede the election for no reason.  The moderator in question who invalidated the votes was a Labor supporter. It should have been pursued, but the weak Federalist party did not want to back him up.  He is welcome to join the Patriots if he wants!  With better election laws, there will be zero election fraud.  Every vote should count.

No moderator invalidated your vote. Peebs invalidated your vote on the grounds that you posted twice in the voting booth, contrary to the election laws. This was evidence by the fact that the deleted vote was visible in the recycled posts board.   

I had a strict no deletion/editing policy in the voting booth until after certification from the time I became Board Moderator, this actually annoyed Virginia and others who like for reported posts to be acted on as soon as possible.

Whatever you may think of me, don't think for a minute that I had a hand in "invalidating your vote". You did that to yourself.

Virginia has since removed the ability to delete posts in the voting booth sub board, so what happened to you can never happen again, because you physically cannot delete your own vote.

Now the only area where people can screw themselves over and others in the process is via editing too late (20 minutes or afterwards). 

You can't even edit your ballot after that period anymore (obviously exempting you as mod). So actually the only way to invalidate your vote is to post in a voting booth twice.

There is no reason to change the election laws in any significant way. We just need good-faith attempts at making our voting intentions clear and good-faith interpretation of those ballots. But yes, problems we've had in the past are less likely to occur today.

I know you've felt differently but I don't believe there is any appetite for restricting ballots in any way such as those that contain personal attacks or comments. Though it should be discouraged so that people will air their grievances in AFE.

"Felt differently" what does this last paragraph even refer to?

Aren't or weren't you in favor of discounting ballots that contain commentary?
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The world will shine with light in our nightmare
Just Passion Through
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Political Matrix
E: -6.32, S: -7.48

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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2022, 05:10:58 PM »


"This fact is disputed". Well, I guess that's a sign of self-awareness.
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The world will shine with light in our nightmare
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2022, 01:12:47 PM »


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The world will shine with light in our nightmare
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2022, 01:23:16 PM »

Hitler was not an actual socialist, but he certainly was a Socialist By Association due to his striking similarities with the Attorney General that Scott is too afraid to fire.

Not afraid to fire—that I'm not going to fire.
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