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« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2021, 08:35:40 AM »

I'm surprised no-one is arguing about the 2016 primary.
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« Reply #76 on: November 21, 2021, 08:36:22 AM »

I welcome this ticket. It gives me a chance to dust off the 'SMASH THE TRUMPISTS' campaign.
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« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2021, 09:09:47 AM »

I will step in to say that from a purely strategic perspective I think this running mate selection is probably the first major misstep youíve made. At the moment your biggest weakness is that youíre completely unknown on the forum; mostly just active on discord and havenít really done anything even on this board before this; thus itís harder for people to take you as a serious actor. I will credit you for working to break this perception with sustained activity on the board since you founded this party.

However an ideal choice for both the running mate here and also for a general partner in running this party would ideally be someone who has a lot of credibility to on-forum conservatives and is seen as at least a semi-serious forum user. Instead this pick does the opposite. Iíd think again about this if I were you.

Anyway, I look forward to seeing where youíre able to take this.
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« Reply #78 on: November 21, 2021, 12:46:58 PM »

IMO Cao lost since he announced his bid relatively close to election weekend and thus lost the support of DAers who had endorsed (and voted for) Scott when it was assumed that Spark would be the Federalist candidate.

Also, Scott, being pro-gun, makes him an exceptionally strong Laborite candidate and highly appealing to swing voters.*

*since while Atlasia is heavily left-wing, Atlasia is about 50/50 on guns with a sizeable pro-gun Laborite minority and likewise, there is a substantial minority of pro-life and anti-PC Laborites (at least in my opinion).

Atlasia has a different political alignment from real life, its almost like there is a sizable rural contingent that votes on issues like unions and workers rights and thus the left party has a large pro-gun and even pro-life contingent like the Democrats did 20 years ago. Perhaps this is an indicator of what a Democratic Party could be if it wasn't dominated by donors and neoliberals.  Pro-gun socialists and leftwing populists. Tongue



Atlasia has a ton of things, but I don't think "a sizable rural contingent" is one of them Tongue

"Almost like" serves a purpose in there Tack. As in a bunch of decidedly non-rural people who are registered in Western states and embrace certain rural populist issues. Tongue
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« Reply #79 on: November 21, 2021, 02:11:24 PM »

Atlasia has a ton of things, but I don't think "a sizable rural contingent" is one of them Tongue

"Almost like" serves a purpose in there Tack. As in a bunch of decidedly non-rural people who are registered in Western states and embrace certain rural populist issues. Tongue

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« Reply #80 on: November 21, 2021, 02:44:34 PM »

IMO Cao lost since he announced his bid relatively close to election weekend and thus lost the support of DAers who had endorsed (and voted for) Scott when it was assumed that Spark would be the Federalist candidate.

Also the obvious reality is that Cao/OSR just aren't as aggressive vote hunters as YT/LT. They are more like ATlasia of yore, put yourself out there, do a little GOTV and you were competitive. Now its all about GOTV and AFE board has declined with less campaigns, less speeches, debates, etc.
It does feel like in order to run a successful campaign in Atlasia, you should post a thread and make one speech and focus on GOTV after that.
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« Reply #81 on: November 21, 2021, 02:53:33 PM »

I will step in to say that from a purely strategic perspective I think this running mate selection is probably the first major misstep youíve made. At the moment your biggest weakness is that youíre completely unknown on the forum; mostly just active on discord and havenít really done anything even on this board before this; thus itís harder for people to take you as a serious actor. I will credit you for working to break this perception with sustained activity on the board since you founded this party.

However an ideal choice for both the running mate here and also for a general partner in running this party would ideally be someone who has a lot of credibility to on-forum conservatives and is seen as at least a semi-serious forum user. Instead this pick does the opposite. Iíd think again about this if I were you.

Anyway, I look forward to seeing where youíre able to take this.

I appreciate the analysis.  I had numerous people in mind for VP, including a Federalist candidate from a recent presidential election, but everyone I approached expressed zero interest.  FDB was the first person to be interested in running.  I think there's fear about upsetting the establishment and how that could damage their future political aspirations.  Yankee and the old players still have a lot of influence on the game.  While two outsides might seem like a bit much, it does send a strong message to the establishment that there's big discontent about how things are being run around here.
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« Reply #82 on: November 21, 2021, 03:16:23 PM »

don't search eff dee bee on youtube, worst decision of my life
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« Reply #83 on: November 21, 2021, 04:45:11 PM »

don't search eff dee bee on youtube, worst decision of my life

Do you like jazz?
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« Reply #84 on: November 21, 2021, 07:14:37 PM »

I will step in to say that from a purely strategic perspective I think this running mate selection is probably the first major misstep youíve made. At the moment your biggest weakness is that youíre completely unknown on the forum; mostly just active on discord and havenít really done anything even on this board before this; thus itís harder for people to take you as a serious actor. I will credit you for working to break this perception with sustained activity on the board since you founded this party.

However an ideal choice for both the running mate here and also for a general partner in running this party would ideally be someone who has a lot of credibility to on-forum conservatives and is seen as at least a semi-serious forum user. Instead this pick does the opposite. Iíd think again about this if I were you.

Anyway, I look forward to seeing where youíre able to take this.

I appreciate the analysis.  I had numerous people in mind for VP, including a Federalist candidate from a recent presidential election, but everyone I approached expressed zero interest.  FDB was the first person to be interested in running.  I think there's fear about upsetting the establishment and how that could damage their future political aspirations.  Yankee and the old players still have a lot of influence on the game.  While two outsides might seem like a bit much, it does send a strong message to the establishment that there's big discontent about how things are being run around here.

Maybe they are concerned about your centralist statements.

Also I run an open leadership team. Fhtagn was my Vice Chair and YT/LT were outsiders in 2018. Then YT became my co chair for a while and LT has been my Vice Chair since early 2020.

The barrier is activity and competence. Anyone who is interested can become part of Fed leadership. If you had come up to me a month ago and said "hey there are problems here that need to be addressed" and offered to put in the effort you could easily be fed leadership today . I got more open positions then the real life American economy right now.
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« Reply #85 on: November 21, 2021, 07:24:42 PM »

One of the worst developments in recent Atlasian politics has to be presidential campaigns starting right after the previous election is over. Like at least wait until past the midterms or past New Year!

And if Spark's campaign is any indication, starting so early is also a bad sign
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« Reply #86 on: November 21, 2021, 07:29:17 PM »

Also the Atlasian right is rather tight nit. I have known fhtagn, R for four years. Most every conservative in this game was recruited by Justice PiT or by someone he recruited.

That is why you are going to struggle with an anti Yankee narrative built on mischaracterizations. It isn't fear, I don't operate based on fear and have routine been assailed by Adam for being too easy going on people. It's more that this place is like a bar where everybody knows your name.
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« Reply #87 on: November 22, 2021, 09:44:50 AM »
« Edited: November 22, 2021, 09:50:00 AM by DabbingSanta »



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« Reply #88 on: November 22, 2021, 07:35:32 PM »

Endorsed! We will Make Atlasia Great Again!
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« Reply #89 on: November 25, 2021, 09:01:38 AM »

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« Reply #90 on: November 25, 2021, 05:12:21 PM »

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