IL-06: Casten vs. Newman?
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Meatball Ron
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« Reply #50 on: November 08, 2021, 06:59:48 PM »

Newman needs to get to the 4th. We don't need a chance of Lipinski.

You don't think Lipinski entering would draw votes away from Casten, thereby benefitting Newman?
eh he'd probably split the non-college more catholic vote, allowing Casten to win through his base among secular college-educated voters.

Gotcha, makes sense. I just didn't follow the original post's logic that Newman's presence in the race increases Lipinski's odds.
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« Reply #51 on: November 08, 2021, 07:41:58 PM »

Not surprising, but EMILY's List endorsed Newman today-

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« Reply #52 on: November 08, 2021, 10:05:30 PM »

Honestly they're both basically the same and the race will be quite close, but I'm rooting for Casten.
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« Reply #53 on: November 08, 2021, 10:27:50 PM »

Honestly they're both basically the same and the race will be quite close, but I'm rooting for Casten.

Newman is definitely much more left-wing and progressive than Casten. They are a consistent party-line vote, but to say they are the same isn't really accurate. This isn't an AOC-Cuellar type primary, but Newman and Casten certainly have their differences.
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« Reply #54 on: November 08, 2021, 10:33:18 PM »

Honestly they're both basically the same and the race will be quite close, but I'm rooting for Casten.

Newman is definitely much more left-wing and progressive than Casten. They are a consistent party-line vote, but to say they are the same isn't really accurate. This isn't an AOC-Cuellar type primary, but Newman and Casten certainly have their differences.

Yeah, I suspected Newman was more progressive while Casten was more mainstream, but it's their votes that really matter. Newman is more liberal than the average Democrat but not liberal enough to act like AOC and the Squad and cast protest votes against what the party wants. I mean, AOC and the Squad all voted against the infrastructure bill because it wasn't progressive enough or whatever, but Newman stayed with the party. So I don't think there's a major difference practically speaking, but I support Casten over Newman, partly because of Newman's progressivism now that I've confirmed it.
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« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2022, 05:08:15 PM »

So this race might have ended before it began.

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« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2022, 05:18:31 PM »

Damn I really like Newman and given the few voices we have in Congress that is critical of Israel, she's been great. However, we shouldn't overlook corruption just because of ideological preferences, even if this kind of corruption is commonplace with Illinois Democrats.

Also, it's kind of funny to see Newman be the first Justice Democrat go down after how laser focused folks were on ousting Tlaib or Omar through a primary and/or redistricting.
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« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2022, 05:19:21 PM »

Sounds about right to me. Go Casten!
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« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2022, 06:43:00 PM »

god damn that sucks
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« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2022, 06:50:20 PM »

I've never been a fan of Newman, so hopefully Casten defeats her in the primary.
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« Reply #60 on: January 24, 2022, 06:54:17 PM »

Welp, Casten it is, then.
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« Reply #61 on: January 24, 2022, 06:55:39 PM »

I've never been a fan of Newman, so hopefully Casten defeats her in the primary.

Seems likely she might not even make it to the primary now.

She was essentially carpetbagging after being drawn into Garcia's district anyway, so this just puts the nail in that coffin.
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« Reply #62 on: January 24, 2022, 07:24:29 PM »

That sucks, I really like Newman, but this is absolutely disqualifying. I have no problems with Casten, he's been a solid party-line vote, and I hope he wins.
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« Reply #63 on: January 24, 2022, 07:30:48 PM »

Unless she actually gets charged with something before the primary, this is nbd.
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« Reply #64 on: January 24, 2022, 11:30:00 PM »

It seems to me here Newman did something that basically everyone else does; she was just dumb enough to write it down.
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« Reply #65 on: January 25, 2022, 01:01:36 AM »

Unless she actually gets charged with something before the primary, this is nbd.

Whether it turns out to be anything criminal or worthy of action from Congress, this basically ensures the endorsements in that district will be roughly 210-10. So that in and of itself is fairly significant.
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« Reply #66 on: January 25, 2022, 03:43:18 AM »

Chehade is running in the primary for the new 3rd district. He probably wasn’t going to win anyway, but it’d be interesting to see how (if at all) this affects him.
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« Reply #67 on: January 25, 2022, 04:07:05 AM »

I wonder if Lipinski jumps in against Casten with Newman likely out of the way. My understanding is that this is a heavily Catholic district with lots of conservadems (I could be wrong though). If this is accurate, Lipinski could draw on a combination of his old voting base and using his Catholicism as a wedge against outspoken atheist Casten.
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« Reply #68 on: January 25, 2022, 11:43:07 AM »

Unless she actually gets charged with something before the primary, this is nbd.

Whether it turns out to be anything criminal or worthy of action from Congress, this basically ensures the endorsements in that district will be roughly 210-10. So that in and of itself is fairly significant.

Endorsements from other congressmen, especially those outside Chicagoland, are totally irrelevant.
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« Reply #69 on: January 25, 2022, 11:44:01 AM »

I wonder if Lipinski jumps in against Casten with Newman likely out of the way. My understanding is that this is a heavily Catholic district with lots of conservadems (I could be wrong though). If this is accurate, Lipinski could draw on a combination of his old voting base and using his Catholicism as a wedge against outspoken atheist Casten.


Marie Newman has been trying to get into Congress for years.  She's not going to drop out because of an ethics complaint.
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« Reply #70 on: January 27, 2022, 05:35:30 PM »

Has there been any indication Lipinski is seriously considering coming back? His social media seems pretty inactive.
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« Reply #71 on: January 28, 2022, 12:19:16 AM »

I wonder if Lipinski jumps in against Casten with Newman likely out of the way. My understanding is that this is a heavily Catholic district with lots of conservadems (I could be wrong though). If this is accurate, Lipinski could draw on a combination of his old voting base and using his Catholicism as a wedge against outspoken atheist Casten.


Marie Newman has been trying to get into Congress for years.  She's not going to drop out because of an ethics complaint.

When has a silly little thing like corruption stopped anybody?
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« Reply #72 on: January 28, 2022, 01:32:24 AM »

Could Republicans win this seat?
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« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2022, 08:24:45 PM »
« Edited: January 28, 2022, 08:28:45 PM by Green Line »


Newman won by 13 in a slightly more favorable district last year.  Whoever wins the primary is clearly favored but in a large wave it could fall.  Have to see how the summer/fall plays out.  The DuPage turf is relatively red-ish downballot still relative to Biden's #s, but thats countered by the fact that the R trending southwest burbs are traditionally more downballot D than the topline suggests.  If I had to guess by now, Newman by 5 over Pekau, Casten slightly less.  Provided Newman's ethics issues dont blow up, shes a better candidate here for the Dems.
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« Reply #74 on: February 01, 2022, 09:16:33 PM »



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