SR 106-12: Expel Senator Spark (Withdrawn)
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« on: November 26, 2021, 11:43:52 AM »
« edited: December 01, 2021, 10:37:06 PM by Ishan »

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Expel Senator Spark

Whereas, Spark has harassed several women.

Resolved, that –
(1) the Senate condemns and expels Senator Spark498 from the Senate for conduct that disrespects the Atlasian people in a way that is not befitting a member of the Senate.

Sponsor: Ishan
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2021, 11:44:47 AM »

The intent of the resolution should be obvious. Spark's disgusting behavior shouldn't be tolerated.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2021, 06:27:38 PM »

This bill is not worthy of consideration. If this conduct was done in office, it would be different. Motion to table.
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2021, 12:08:51 AM »

Objection to the motion
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2021, 12:21:49 AM »

Motioning for a final vote.
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2021, 01:12:01 AM »
« Edited: November 28, 2021, 02:54:28 AM by Lincoln Senator Joseph Cao »

The intent of the resolution should be obvious. Spark's disgusting behavior shouldn't be tolerated.

Charlie Crist on a cracker, is it too hard for the PPT to read the [inks]ing rules? Expulsion proceedings should not even be brought to the floor unless at least two senators sponsor them. Frankly it seems hard to believe that is a reasonable baseline for expulsion when a simpler censure requires nine senators to do the same thing, but that's what the rules say right now. This shouldn't even be on the floor and that would be equally obvious if Ishan did his job.


Real open clown season here. It's been less than 96 hours and nobody has requested unanimous consent, which thankfully should not happen when expelling senators is under consideration. Come back and try again when one of those things is done.

Anyway, WD's motion will not be acted on until our vote on the motion to table is over with, and that will be opened now. 72 hours to vote; please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain, and reminder that a two-thirds supermajority is needed for cloture to be invoked here.

FOR THOSE CONFUSED, WE ARE NOW VOTING ON WHETHER TO MOVE TO THE TABLING VOTE. I UNDERSTAND THE HOUR IS LATE.

EDIT: MOTION TO TABLE CANCELED, SEE MY LATEST POST.
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2021, 02:23:01 AM »

nay
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2021, 02:34:03 AM »

Well I will co-sponsor this, so that it officially meets the rules

Anyways NAY on the tabling motion, which is what seems to be open, though the use of cloture throws me off, if it is Western's motion that is open, then AYE
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2021, 02:35:57 AM »

I’m sorry, are we voting on tabling, or cloture? Some clarification would be appreciated.
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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2021, 02:42:34 AM »

I’m sorry, are we voting on tabling, or cloture? Some clarification would be appreciated.

Spark motioned to table; S019 objected. So we now need to vote on whether to proceed to the motion to table, or, as is common parlance, cloture on tabling.

Well I will co-sponsor this, so that it officially meets the rules

Anyways NAY on the tabling motion, which is what seems to be open, though the use of cloture throws me off, if it is Western's motion that is open, then AYE

I specifically wrote that WD's motion is not being acted on.

Also, nope, if you decide that now the proceedings meet the rules, I regret to inform you that they don't and they never did no matter what retroactive motions you want to make. The proceedings did not meet the rules because they were brought to the floor.

Maybe they would if Ishan decided to pull the whole thing and read the rules beforehand, but he didn't, he probably won't, and here we are.
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2021, 02:44:42 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2021, 02:49:18 AM »

NAY, in case my earlier vote isn't clear
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2021, 02:55:49 AM »

Just so we're clear, I am as sleep-deprived as anyone else here would be at 3 a.m. The motion to table was not actionable because only one Senator made the motion.

Vote canceled, apologies for the confusion.
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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2021, 03:01:32 AM »

What disgusting behavior are you referring to here Ishan?
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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2021, 03:20:47 AM »

Well I will co-sponsor this, so that it officially meets the rules

Of course the Senator from New Jersey supports kicking people out of the Senate.


The motion to table was not actionable because only one Senator made the motion.

In that case I second the motion to table.
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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2021, 12:59:09 PM »

Seems like a waste of the Senate's time tbh.
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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2021, 03:58:01 PM »

Just so we're clear, I am as sleep-deprived as anyone else here would be at 3 a.m. The motion to table was not actionable because only one Senator made the motion.

Vote canceled, apologies for the confusion.

Well then in this case, the final vote motion should be acted on, since that's the next pending motion, no?
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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2021, 05:14:35 PM »

What disgusting behavior are you referring to here Ishan?
His harassment of women.
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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2021, 10:24:48 PM »

Just so we're clear, I am as sleep-deprived as anyone else here would be at 3 a.m. The motion to table was not actionable because only one Senator made the motion.

Vote canceled, apologies for the confusion.

Well then in this case, the final vote motion should be acted on, since that's the next pending motion, no?

We are not moving to a final vote when barely 60 hours of "debate" has taken place:

It's been less than 96 hours and nobody has requested unanimous consent, which thankfully should not happen when expelling senators is under consideration. Come back and try again when one of those things is done.

And just so we're clear… unanimous consent may only be requested by the presiding officer.
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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2021, 11:31:26 PM »

I'm open to this, however I feel like we should not take such drastic action lightly.
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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2021, 10:10:45 PM »

Well?
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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2021, 10:21:25 PM »

I repeat: this being on the floor at all is against the SOAP, and any attendant actions that aren't withdrawing or tabling it are technically outside the bounds of the rules as well.

Ishan can pull this and reintroduce it according to the rules if he really feels that strongly about kicking Spark out, but the only sensible action on this right now is tabling. Motion to table.
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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2021, 10:26:26 PM »

I'll withdraw this and re-introduce this then.
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2021, 11:34:48 PM »

I repeat: this being on the floor at all is against the SOAP, and any attendant actions that aren't withdrawing or tabling it are technically outside the bounds of the rules as well.

The long traditions of Northeasterners and Lincolnites referring to the OSPR as SOAP, tale as old as time. Tongue
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