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« on: October 13, 2021, 06:18:58 PM »

Joe Biden was 77 when he was elected president of the United States in November 2020.
John Fitzgerald Kennedy would have been 75 in November 1992. He could have been elected in this date.

Imagine this alternate timeline
In 1960, JFK looses the DNC. The ticket LBJ-Humphrey wins and stays in the White House until 1968. Since LBJ was president for 5 years, and in this alternative timeline he would have been president for 8 years, this wouldn't make big difference. Events in the American and world history would be similar.
JFK would stay as a senator from Massachusetts

In 1992, he runs the democratic primary against the young Arkansas governor Bill Clinton. Some democratic members are pessimist about another candidate from Massachusetts, since Dukakis lost in 1988. Even though, Kennedy wins in a tight race against Clinton.
The 1992 election has 3 candidates: democratic John Kenney, incumbent republican president George Bush, and the millionaire Ross Perot. In the first presidential election after the Cold War, the candidates of the 2 major parties are WW2 veterans. JFK wins.
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2021, 01:57:18 AM »
« Edited: October 14, 2021, 06:01:44 PM by Old School Democrat »

1992 election: These could be the two E.V.'s



Senator John F. Kennedy/Senator George Mitchell: 370 E.V./47% P.V.
President George H.W.Bush/V.P. Dan Quayle: 168 E.V./41% P.V.
Businessman Ross Perot/Admiral James Stockdale: 0 E.V./9% P.V.

1996 election:



V.P. George Mitchell/Governor Bill Clinton (JFK declines to run for re-election): 359 E.V./50% P.V.
Senator Bob Dole/Representative Jack Kemp: 159 E.V./41% P.V.
Businessman Ross Perot/Economist Pat Choate: 0 E.V./5% P.V.

In 2000, incumbent president George Mitchell wins a close re-election following a scandal-free administration, however VP Bill Clinton is replaced by Massachusetts senator John Kerry after he was caught having sexual relations with an intern. Kerry would go on to lose to Texas governor George W. Bush in 2004 who despite winning the popular vote by a simple majority, goes on to be the most unpopular president in American history. He is defeated by Obama in a landslide, although he still manages to get 45% of the vote, nearly double his 25% approval rating.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2021, 03:33:22 PM »

1992 election: These could be the two E.V.'s



Senator John F. Kennedy/Senator George Mitchell: 370 E.V./47% P.V.
President George H.W.Bush/V.P. Dan Quayle: 168 E.V./41% P.V.
Businessman Ross Perot/Admiral James Stockdale: 0 E.V./9% P.V.

1996 election:



V.P. George Mitchell/Governor Bill Clinton (JFK declines to run for re-election): 359 E.V./50% P.V.
Senator Bob Dole/Representative Jack Kemp: 159 E.V./41% P.V.
Businessman Ross Perot/Economist Pat Choate: 0 E.V./5% P.V.

In 2000, incumbent president George Mitchell wins a close re-election following a scandal-free administration, however VP Bill Clinton is replaced by Massachusetts senator John Kerry after he was caught having sexual relations with an intern. Kerry would go on to lose to Texas governor George W. Bush in 2004 who despite winning the popular vote by a simple majority, goes on to be the most unpopular president in American history. He is defeated by Obama in a landslide, although he still manages to get 45% of the vote, nearly double his 25% approval rating.

Interesting.  In this hypothetical, is JFK still the 1st Catholic president when he wins in 1992?  If yes, that explains Louisiana.  If not, I think he would certainly lose LA and FL/TX wouldn't be particularly close. 
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2021, 03:54:47 PM »

1992 election: These could be the two E.V.'s



Senator John F. Kennedy/Senator George Mitchell: 370 E.V./47% P.V.
President George H.W.Bush/V.P. Dan Quayle: 168 E.V./41% P.V.
Businessman Ross Perot/Admiral James Stockdale: 0 E.V./9% P.V.

1996 election:



V.P. George Mitchell/Governor Bill Clinton (JFK declines to run for re-election): 359 E.V./50% P.V.
Senator Bob Dole/Representative Jack Kemp: 159 E.V./41% P.V.
Businessman Ross Perot/Economist Pat Choate: 0 E.V./5% P.V.

In 2000, incumbent president George Mitchell wins a close re-election following a scandal-free administration, however VP Bill Clinton is replaced by Massachusetts senator John Kerry after he was caught having sexual relations with an intern. Kerry would go on to lose to Texas governor George W. Bush in 2004 who despite winning the popular vote by a simple majority, goes on to be the most unpopular president in American history. He is defeated by Obama in a landslide, although he still manages to get 45% of the vote, nearly double his 25% approval rating.

Interesting.  In this hypothetical, is JFK still the 1st Catholic president when he wins in 1992?  If yes, that explains Louisiana.  If not, I think he would certainly lose LA and FL/TX wouldn't be particularly close.  

I'm guessing he would be but I was projecting TX to be close due to his association with JFK and FL to be close since it's a bellwether even though Clinton didn't win it in 1992. LA has a strong Catholic population so I think he would've won it even if he wasn't' the first Catholic, since 1992 Louisiana was politically a different place from 2020 Louisiana. Kennedy was also close to Terry Sanford which would've explained why NC was close in 1992, while Carter would've stumped hard for him leaving him to win Georgia in 1992.
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2021, 06:11:50 PM »

This scenario's premise is a highly improbable one, as his Addison's likely would've resulted in him dying by the '90s.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2021, 08:31:21 PM »

This scenario's premise is a highly improbable one, as his Addison's likely would've resulted in him dying by the '90s.
I would say that JFKs last chance to be elected President would have been 1976, as his Addisons Disease would have likely killed him by the late 1980s.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2021, 01:45:31 PM »

1992 election: These could be the two E.V.'s



Senator John F. Kennedy/Senator George Mitchell: 370 E.V./47% P.V.
President George H.W.Bush/V.P. Dan Quayle: 168 E.V./41% P.V.
Businessman Ross Perot/Admiral James Stockdale: 0 E.V./9% P.V.

1996 election:



V.P. George Mitchell/Governor Bill Clinton (JFK declines to run for re-election): 359 E.V./50% P.V.
Senator Bob Dole/Representative Jack Kemp: 159 E.V./41% P.V.
Businessman Ross Perot/Economist Pat Choate: 0 E.V./5% P.V.

In 2000, incumbent president George Mitchell wins a close re-election following a scandal-free administration, however VP Bill Clinton is replaced by Massachusetts senator John Kerry after he was caught having sexual relations with an intern. Kerry would go on to lose to Texas governor George W. Bush in 2004 who despite winning the popular vote by a simple majority, goes on to be the most unpopular president in American history. He is defeated by Obama in a landslide, although he still manages to get 45% of the vote, nearly double his 25% approval rating.

Very close to the real 1992 map.

The ticket Bill Clinton/Al Gore won Arkansas, Tennessee and Kentucky for obvious motives.
I would change only Florida. Nixon won in 1960, Bush won in 1992, so, in this ficticious election, Bush can win it too.
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2021, 01:24:26 PM »

Assuming he doesn't have Addison's Disease in this TL? It would be like nominating Mario Cuomo or any other old New Dealer. Democrats have a harder time without triangulating like the Clinton administration could. He or his VP wins reelection narrowly against a more serious challenger (Kemp? Gingrich?).
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