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Question: Do you with that Martha McSally had won the Arizona senate race in 2018 instead of Kyrsten Sinema?
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« on: October 08, 2021, 12:25:06 PM »

Do you wish that Martha McSally had won in 2018 instead of Kyrsten Sinema?
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2021, 12:43:22 PM »
« Edited: October 08, 2021, 07:52:25 PM by TML »

Here are the potential complications of this scenario:

(1) McSally wouldn't be able to be dislodged at the ballot box until 2024.
(2) AZ might not be considered as flippable as it actually was in 2020 if Dems didn't score a statewide win in 2018.
(3) If all other 2018 and 2020 races went as they actually had gone, Republicans would still control the Senate right now, greatly limiting what legislation/nominations get voted on in the current congress.

Don't get me wrong - there's a ton of problems with Sinema, but those problems aren't worth the complications described above.
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2021, 12:43:50 PM »

No because I wouldn't have gotten a $1.4k stimulus at the beginning of the year.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2021, 12:53:26 PM »

Yes. Plus, it would have cleared the field for a better Republican in 2020.
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2021, 06:32:48 PM »

Hell no! Sinema is a pain in the ass, but at least Biden managed to have his Cabinet confirmed with her being part of the Democratic majority.
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2021, 07:31:00 PM »

Only if I could exchange Sinema for another democrat.

I would have rather had Beto O'Rourke or Bill Nelson win and still have McSally.
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2021, 07:33:58 PM »

Only if I could exchange Sinema for another democrat.

I would have rather had Beto O'Rourke or Bill Nelson win and still have McSally.

That's a fair compromise. Those two in exchange for Manchin and Sinema. We also wouldn't have Cruz or Scott as a bonus.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2021, 01:59:08 PM »

Hell no! Sinema is a pain in the ass, but at least Biden managed to have his Cabinet confirmed with her being part of the Democratic majority.

100% this.
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2021, 04:30:48 PM »

Yes (R)
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2021, 05:23:28 PM »

No, McSally was a rubber stamp for Trump and supported the 2017 unaffordable tax cuts

Rs retired in 2018/ giving Pelosi the Speakership because 2017 tax cuts didn't being the utopia Rs promised
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2021, 10:36:17 PM »

No. I wish someone else besides Kyrsten Sinema, Martha McSally, and Angela Green had been on the ballot - an independent - and I wish that fourth candidate had won. (I lived in Missouri in 2018, and I voted for Craig O'Dear.)
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2021, 11:24:26 PM »

Lol McSally is Done, stop resurrecting her
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2021, 07:01:32 PM »

Some “progressives” wishing that McSally had won in 2018 are betraying the liberal cause. Sinema has many policy issues and I wish a more liberal person had been the nominee in 2018. But without Sinema, Biden’s agenda would have no chance (rather than low) at passing, and many judges wouldn’t have been confirmed.
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2021, 07:20:12 PM »

Some “progressives” wishing that McSally had won in 2018 are betraying the liberal cause. Sinema has many policy issues and I wish a more liberal person had been the nominee in 2018. But without Sinema, Biden’s agenda would have no chance (rather than low) at passing, and many judges wouldn’t have been confirmed.

It's the same thing as thinking that Clinton losing in 2016 was a net positive in general, or that Democrats would be better off if Biden lost last year. Apparently Democratic Party can only win by losing and self-undermining its own interests.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2021, 05:19:16 AM »

No. As with Obama, Democrats would still get blamed for bad governance if Biden was president without a trifecta.

Ineffective and/or corrupt Democrats would also get to hide their reluctance to pass progressive policy behind Republicans, and with the trifecta also failing, there is at least an opportunity for some people to become wise to that ruse.
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