Can a man get pregnant

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

no man has ever gotten pregnant or given birth and no man ever will. it’s a specifically and intrinsically female experience, and the most important and defining one at that.

I hope uterine transplants become a thing just to see if you react with the ideologically consistent "okay, trans women who get uterine transplants are women" or the more likely "b... but he wasn't born a woman! That's not his uterus!".
If the former, are trans people the gender they say they are without the need for affirming fertility apparatuses, provided they fail to bear children? It's fine if we're not, I just want to gather information about your views.

It's possible the argument comes from that if one has a child, they are 'surrendering' being male. Or, to put it in other terms, if one is truly transgender they wouldn't participate in cisgender things.

"Cisgender things"?

Traditional gender things, like childbirth for women for instance.

What if, say, a trans man is forced to carry a child to term by the overturning of Roe v. Wade?

I'm LGBT and pro-choice, this isn't the burn you think it is.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Yes, because a trans man can have a functioning uterus.  Silly question. 

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

no man has ever gotten pregnant or given birth and no man ever will. it’s a specifically and intrinsically female experience, and the most important and defining one at that.

I hope uterine transplants become a thing just to see if you react with the ideologically consistent "okay, trans women who get uterine transplants are women" or the more likely "b... but he wasn't born a woman! That's not his uterus!".
If the former, are trans people the gender they say they are without the need for affirming fertility apparatuses, provided they fail to bear children? It's fine if we're not, I just want to gather information about your views.

It's possible the argument comes from that if one has a child, they are 'surrendering' being male. Or, to put it in other terms, if one is truly transgender they wouldn't participate in cisgender things.

"Cisgender things"?

Traditional gender things, like childbirth for women for instance.

What if, say, a trans man is forced to carry a child to term by the overturning of Roe v. Wade?

I'm LGBT and pro-choice, this isn't the burn you think it is.

I think Sol was trying to imply that your idea leads to the unfair situation where a trans man who has an unwanted pregnancy is and lives in a state where abortion is illegal and is thus forced to give birth has to give up being male as well.

Also a gay or bi(or pan, ace. etc) cis person can still be transphobic.trans people can be transphobic as well, just like women can be misogynistic, but thats another can of worms.

[Klobmentum Mutilated Herself]

Also a gay or bi(or pan, ace. etc) cis person can still be transphobic.trans people can be transphobic as well, just like women can be misogynistic, but thats another can of worms.

Indeed, it's interesting how cis gay transphobes like saying "I'm LGBT" as a qualifier for their transphobic comments, when they're not T. If they were trans, they'd say "I'm trans". All they're really saying is "I'm not trans, but I'm going to pretend my gayness gives me the credibility y to throw trans people in the fire without being a transphobe." I bet there's quite a lot of overlap between "I'm LGBT" transphobes and the #DropTheT crowd, but of course, they'll keep the T in there when they say "I'm LGBT" in anti-trans posts.

[DaleCooper]

What an awesome thread.

[DavidB.]

These five words are enough to debunk gender ideology.

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

no man has ever gotten pregnant or given birth and no man ever will. it’s a specifically and intrinsically female experience, and the most important and defining one at that.

I hope uterine transplants become a thing just to see if you react with the ideologically consistent "okay, trans women who get uterine transplants are women" or the more likely "b... but he wasn't born a woman! That's not his uterus!".
If the former, are trans people the gender they say they are without the need for affirming fertility apparatuses, provided they fail to bear children? It's fine if we're not, I just want to gather information about your views.

https://twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1524320184974073856?t=qLIOOoX5NI0_jUhxtn_Veg...
Question for the 65%: If this comes to pass, are transgender people still not the gender they say they are?

[Bootes Void]

no man has ever gotten pregnant or given birth and no man ever will. it’s a specifically and intrinsically female experience, and the most important and defining one at that.

I hope uterine transplants become a thing just to see if you react with the ideologically consistent "okay, trans women who get uterine transplants are women" or the more likely "b... but he wasn't born a woman! That's not his uterus!".
If the former, are trans people the gender they say they are without the need for affirming fertility apparatuses, provided they fail to bear children? It's fine if we're not, I just want to gather information about your views.

https://twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1524320184974073856?t=qLIOOoX5NI0_jUhxtn_Veg...
Question for the 65%: If this comes to pass, are transgender people still not the gender they say they are?

This seems unethical, you shouldn’t be using science to change body functions that you were born into

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

This seems unethical, you shouldn’t be using science to change body functions that you were born into

Bootes Void iamaganster123 Junior Chimp ★★★★★ Posts: 5,334

Re: Ex-GI Becomes Blonde Beauty « Reply #1 on: December 01, 1952, 04:04:12 pm » This seems unethical, you shouldn’t be using science to change body functions that you were born into

[John Dule]

Broke: Getting an abortion for financial reasons

Woke: Getting an abortion to fight overpopulation

Bespoke: Becoming transgender, getting a womb transplant, getting pregnant, and then aborting the fetus to make Fuzzy's head explode

[Churro]

No

[Goldwater]

Trans men exist, yes.

[ingemann]

When I read these kind of questions, I’m reminded about the great medieval debate about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

It’s a useless debate, which do nothing to bring people together, improve the lives of anyone, or uncover new truths. In fact it does the opposite.

So the answer to the question is: it depend on how you define a man.

[Former President tack50]

no man has ever gotten pregnant or given birth and no man ever will. it’s a specifically and intrinsically female experience, and the most important and defining one at that.

I hope uterine transplants become a thing just to see if you react with the ideologically consistent "okay, trans women who get uterine transplants are women" or the more likely "b... but he wasn't born a woman! That's not his uterus!".
If the former, are trans people the gender they say they are without the need for affirming fertility apparatuses, provided they fail to bear children? It's fine if we're not, I just want to gather information about your views.

https://twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1524320184974073856?t=qLIOOoX5NI0_jUhxtn_Veg...
Question for the 65%: If this comes to pass, are transgender people still not the gender they say they are?

From my understanding, womb transplants only barely work these days on cis-women, have a lot of sideffects and are at the cutting edge of medical advancement right now; so at best we are decades away from making one work on a trans woman (or a cis man for that matter); if that's even biologically possible at all.

In any case, not part of the 65%; but I imagine not many would change their opinion over that

[Antonio the Sixth]

When I read these kind of questions, I’m reminded about the great medieval debate about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

It’s a useless debate, which do nothing to bring people together, improve the lives of anyone, or uncover new truths. In fact it does the opposite.

So the answer to the question is: it depend on how you define a man.

Yep. Almost like words are arbitrary social construct we assign meaning to rather than containing any inherent meaning of their own.

You know, a debate that was settled by the late Middle Ages already.

[Mr. Reactionary]

When I read these kind of questions, I’m reminded about the great medieval debate about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

It’s a useless debate, which do nothing to bring people together, improve the lives of anyone, or uncover new truths. In fact it does the opposite.

So the answer to the question is: it depend on how you define a man.

How do you define a man?

[If my soul was made of stone]