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Question: Do you think a man can get pregnant?
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« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2021, 01:01:19 AM »

In the dark purple states, objectively yes. These states and territories legally recognize a change from the gender assigned at birth upon request.

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The magenta states and territories only recognize the change if sex reassignment surgery has been performed, so I think that would rule out pregnancy in an FTM.

Idaho is apparently in limbo, while Tennessee and American Samoa do not allow a change for any reason.
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« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2021, 02:02:37 AM »

In the dark purple states, objectively yes. These states and territories legally recognize a change from the gender assigned at birth upon request.

Source: Wikipedia

The magenta states and territories only recognize the change if sex reassignment surgery has been performed, so I think that would rule out pregnancy in an FTM.

Idaho is apparently in limbo, while Tennessee and American Samoa do not allow a change for any reason.

Those states also recognize corporate personhood, a similar legal fiction.
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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2021, 11:56:12 AM »

No (sane, literally normal)
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« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2021, 12:11:49 PM »

Of course. google "goku mpreg" for evidence.
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« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2021, 12:53:02 PM »



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« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2021, 07:49:01 PM »

Just so we're clear, nobody voting No actually believes trans people are the gender they say they are.
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« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2021, 08:51:08 PM »

Just so we're clear, nobody voting No actually believes trans people are the gender they say they are.
To be fair, I doubt any of the people voting yes actually believe that, either.
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« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2021, 10:05:35 PM »

Just so we're clear, nobody voting No actually believes trans people are the gender they say they are.

Yep (Voted No)
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« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2021, 10:08:31 PM »

In the dark purple states, objectively yes. These states and territories legally recognize a change from the gender assigned at birth upon request.

Source: Wikipedia

The magenta states and territories only recognize the change if sex reassignment surgery has been performed, so I think that would rule out pregnancy in an FTM.

Idaho is apparently in limbo, while Tennessee and American Samoa do not allow a change for any reason.

Those dark purple states are wrong, and Tennessee is right (assuming Tennessee still leaves room for genuine clerical errors, of course).
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« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2021, 10:09:25 PM »

In the dark purple states, objectively yes. These states and territories legally recognize a change from the gender assigned at birth upon request.

Source: Wikipedia

The magenta states and territories only recognize the change if sex reassignment surgery has been performed, so I think that would rule out pregnancy in an FTM.

Idaho is apparently in limbo, while Tennessee and American Samoa do not allow a change for any reason.

Those states also recognize corporate personhood, a similar legal fiction.

Corporate personhood is correct for the same reason that we also recognize other organizations as persons: Should the New York Times not have legal rights because it is an organization, and not a single individual?
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« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2021, 10:11:24 PM »

Just so we're clear, nobody voting No actually believes trans people are the gender they say they are.

Is this supposed to make those who voted no change their mind?
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« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2021, 11:52:08 PM »

Corporate personhood is correct for the same reason that we also recognize other organizations as persons: Should the New York Times not have legal rights because it is an organization, and not a single individual?

I'm not questioning corporate personhood. I'm saying that just because something is legally true does not make it factually true.
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« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2021, 12:44:41 AM »

Just so we're clear, nobody voting No actually believes trans people are the gender they say they are.

Is this supposed to make those who voted no change their mind?
My point is that I doubt that a majority of No voters consider themselves transphobic; probably, a good chunk would vote Yes in a poll asking if they consider trans people to be the gender they say they are. I hope any No voter who would vote Yes in such a poll recognizes that they don't actually support trans people.
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« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2021, 12:46:45 AM »

Just so we're clear, nobody voting No actually believes trans people are the gender they say they are.

Is this supposed to make those who voted no change their mind?
My point is that I doubt that a majority of No voters consider themselves transphobic; probably, a good chunk would vote Yes in a poll asking if they consider trans people to be the gender they say they are. I hope any No voter who would vote Yes in such a poll recognizes that they don't actually support trans people.

And what does calling them transphobic accomplish?
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« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2021, 12:50:19 AM »

Just so we're clear, nobody voting No actually believes trans people are the gender they say they are.

Is this supposed to make those who voted no change their mind?
My point is that I doubt that a majority of No voters consider themselves transphobic; probably, a good chunk would vote Yes in a poll asking if they consider trans people to be the gender they say they are. I hope any No voter who would vote Yes in such a poll recognizes that they don't actually support trans people.

And what does calling them transphobic accomplish?
Calling people some iteration of an "ist-o-phobe" tends to make them harder to persuade, not easier. If you are an activist in LGBT issues and you think calling people these sorts of terms makes them likelier to support your goals, you are sorely mistaken. Most people want to feel like they support fair treatment in this country; calling them highly charged negative terms just makes them dislike you more.
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« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2021, 01:12:55 AM »

I'm not trying to persuade anyone. I don't care if I put people off by calling them an ist-o-phobe. The definition of a racist is someone who thinks a person is inferior because of their race. The definition of a transphobe is someone who thinks a trans person is not the gender they say they are. Anyone who votes No in this poll is a transphobe.

All I'm doing is noting how many transphobes there are here, based on the poll, and questioning how many of them would recognize that they are transphobic. If snowflakes get offended or worry that trans people will lose the midterms of the Dems, then that's their problem.
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« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2021, 01:17:24 AM »

All I'm doing is noting how many transphobes there are here, based on the poll, and questioning how many of them would recognize that they are transphobic.

We are not allowed to recognize it on this site because doing so is a moddable offense.
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« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2021, 01:23:56 AM »

I'm not trying to persuade anyone. I don't care if I put people off by calling them an ist-o-phobe. The definition of a racist is someone who thinks a person is inferior because of their race. The definition of a transphobe is someone who thinks a trans person is not the gender they say they are. Anyone who votes No in this poll is a transphobe.

All I'm doing is noting how many transphobes there are here, based on the poll, and questioning how many of them would recognize that they are transphobic. If snowflakes get offended or worry that trans people will lose the midterms of the Dems, then that's their problem.

imagine thinking they're a significant enough number to actually matter in elections.
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« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2021, 01:30:50 AM »

I was referring to the Democrats who believe that acknowledging that trans people exist or using the word 'Latinx' will guarantee the Dems will never win another election again, but ok.
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« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2021, 02:13:06 AM »

The definition of a racist is someone who thinks a person is inferior because of their race. The definition of a transphobe is someone who thinks a trans person is not the gender they say they are.

If racism requires a belief in inferiority why doesn't transphobia similarly require a belief in inferiority? One can find it absurd to claim that there's nothing gay about a man sucking his girlfriends lady penis without believing transpeople are inferior.
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« Reply #45 on: December 12, 2021, 12:12:57 PM »

Even if I were trans, or otherwise willing to change genders, why on earth would I want the pain and hassle of nine months of pregnancy, followed by the pain and agony of going through labor?

It isn't worth it.
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« Reply #46 on: December 12, 2021, 04:49:45 PM »

The definition of a transphobe is someone who thinks a trans person is not the gender they say they are. Anyone who votes No in this poll is a transphobe.
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« Reply #47 on: December 12, 2021, 08:31:01 PM »

First, we'll have to teach pigs how to fly.
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« Reply #48 on: December 13, 2021, 11:17:41 PM »

This is the type of question where the vast majority of people alive today will simply never come around to the progressive answer.
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« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2021, 02:42:25 PM »

Nope.
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