UT Sen 2022: McMullin vs. Lee
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« Reply #125 on: October 14, 2022, 04:24:29 PM »

He won't join a caucus, so what's the goal? Deny Utah representation in Senate committees?

My best guess is that he'll vote for whichever majority leader is going to win anyway (not sure what happens in a 47-50-3 Senate though) in exchange for committee assignments but still claim to not technically have "joined" the caucus.

Or maybe vote for Schumer regardless but make a  big deal about how he's still not formally a member
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« Reply #126 on: October 14, 2022, 10:54:50 PM »

He won't join a caucus, so what's the goal? Deny Utah representation in Senate committees?

He’s marginally better than Lee, which is all that matters.
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« Reply #127 on: October 15, 2022, 06:14:32 AM »
« Edited: October 15, 2022, 06:20:58 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

He won't join a caucus, so what's the goal? Deny Utah representation in Senate committees?

He’s marginally better than Lee, which is all that matters.

We should all wait until the Eday is over because if Ds have the majority Schumer will give him a Chairmanship he wont say whom he will caucus with now because it will endanger him for Eday but after Eday he can declare, that's pretty obvious , the more seats D have the better it is for him to caucus with us, why would he want to caucus with Rs and he wouldnt be even rankings member on a subcommittee, he can be offered any chairmanship of a subcommittee not regular committee if Ds have a 52/47 Senate all bets is that it will be 53/47

Rs say it's Safe R  or he won't caucus because they know it they make it 53/47 or 54/48 or 55/45 with OH, NC and UT they won't win the Senate back that's why so many users believe Johnson is ahead, Lean R means like TX Beto never lead in a poll, Tossup means Ryan, Beasley and McMULLIN lead in some polls it doesn't mean +1/3 pts in a state

Johnson was Plus 6 in LV tied in RV and -1 in Clarity poll that's not Lean R when Evers is plus 5 there is no way Johnson wins by 6 and Evers win by 5
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« Reply #128 on: October 15, 2022, 06:19:50 AM »

No but let's be clear about that.


It's quite obvious he's going to side more often with the dems than with the republicans.
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« Reply #129 on: October 15, 2022, 06:21:55 AM »

We already know this, he will declare after Eday he can't now because he hasn't been elected it's UT not ME where King declared with Ds right before Eday, why would he side with an R minority
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« Reply #130 on: October 16, 2022, 10:33:35 AM »

McMullins will be a anti MAGA vote and anti fascist vote. That’s good enough

He’ll vote for voting rights, veterans and infrastructure stuff like the semiconductor bill.

Maybe he’ll vote for anything that’ll lower medical expenses. According to his website. And he wants to make the filibuster a talking filibuster
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« Reply #131 on: October 16, 2022, 10:56:51 AM »

No love lost for Lee, but can’t wait for this grifter McMuffin’s ignoble career to end. He’s been one of the biggest proponents of the “Russia hacked the DNC” conspiracy theory, and needs to be repudiated by the electorate for his unhinged views.
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« Reply #132 on: October 16, 2022, 12:24:14 PM »

No love lost for Lee, but can’t wait for this grifter McMuffin’s ignoble career to end. He’s been one of the biggest proponents of the “Russia hacked the DNC” conspiracy theory, and needs to be repudiated by the electorate for his unhinged views.

Lmao
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« Reply #133 on: October 16, 2022, 01:58:44 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2022, 02:02:25 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

He said he isn't caucus with anyone but will vote more with Ds, but in MSNBC he didn't say what he would do if it's 50/50 and he is the 50th vote, but I know this is UT not ME and he knows he can't get elected as a D caucus member he must stay indy

The Ds don't need him to caucus with us anyways we have wave insurance seats anyways WI, GA, OH, NC and IA , we have just as many pickups in Govs and S as Rs have in H

Don't be surprised about FL, SD or IN going D Bengs can do a Heidikamper
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« Reply #134 on: October 17, 2022, 03:07:03 AM »


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« Reply #135 on: October 17, 2022, 04:05:57 AM »

The realistic scenario is a 52/47/1 D Senate but of course IA, OH, NC and FL are still Tossups especially NC we won the Gov race in 2020 the Pundits have NC as Lean R and UT they are making the same mistake as they did on AK and NY 19 the maps are blank on Eday there are no rankings in Eday

I have a gut feeling we are gonna win NC and OH and IA and UT and have an expanded map but why they don't make UT and NC Tossups and Sabato has WI as Lean R, is beyond me
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« Reply #136 on: October 17, 2022, 11:11:09 AM »

Don't forget this is from the same guy who runs a Twitter account called @BasedMikeLee
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« Reply #137 on: October 17, 2022, 07:50:16 PM »

I really like Mike Lee’s debating style.
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« Reply #138 on: October 17, 2022, 07:55:43 PM »

I just want to say that the Lee smile while McMullin says something really grinds my gears.
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« Reply #139 on: October 17, 2022, 08:05:24 PM »

I just want to say that the Lee smile while McMullin says something really grinds my gears.

Who do you think won the debate?
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« Reply #140 on: October 17, 2022, 08:06:12 PM »

I just want to say that the Lee smile while McMullin says something really grinds my gears.

Who do you think won the debate?
I watched less than half of it, sorry. I don’t think it really changed anyone’s minds, maybe a draw from what I saw.
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« Reply #141 on: October 18, 2022, 02:07:51 PM »

I just want to say that the Lee smile while McMullin says something really grinds my gears.

Who do you think won the debate?
Draw.
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« Reply #142 on: October 18, 2022, 02:39:21 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2022, 02:43:00 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

Yesterday polls clearly moved UT and NC down on the rankings now it's basically down to OH and IA as wave insurance and along with Barnes, Fetterman, FRANKEN and Ryan that's 54/46 Senate majority

We lost IA last time because of Greenfield if FRANKEN was the nominee we would have won, Lee has a 15 pt Advantage, it can be an upset in any wave insurance but they just move down that's all

I have a gut feeling Barnes, Fetterman, FRANKEN, Ryan are gonna do better than Beasley and DEMINGS just like last time Greenfield, Gideon and Boiler all lost, if Ryan and FRANKEN wins that's gonna help Gwen Graham make up her mind and challenge Scott in 24 and Daines is up again in 26 hopefully Bullock reconsider if we have a Filibuster proof Senate
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« Reply #143 on: October 23, 2022, 07:39:28 AM »

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kinzinger-campaigns-mcmullin-utah-m-162622647.html

I underestimated McMullin, obviously, he won't caucus with us unless it's a 49/50 split and Veep Harris carris the tie breaker but he would be key to Filibuster reform

If I were Rs I would be nervous even if Rs win the H about UT, OH, NC, IA, WI, NV, GA

Ds are still gonna win PA, NH and AZ
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« Reply #144 on: October 23, 2022, 08:09:42 AM »

I just want to say that the Lee smile while McMullin says something really grinds my gears.

Saw that. He looks a little psychotic when he does that.
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« Reply #145 on: October 25, 2022, 04:18:07 AM »

Any updates from people in Utah- does McMullin still appear to have some momentum?
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« Reply #146 on: October 30, 2022, 08:21:12 AM »

Dems claim dmeocracy’s in crisis, and then they turn around and ban Kael Weston from running. I thought this was America not Russia or Venezuela.

Democracy is not in crisis and we know that bc dems don’t act like it.
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« Reply #147 on: October 30, 2022, 02:27:16 PM »

Dems claim dmeocracy’s in crisis, and then they turn around and ban Kael Weston from running. I thought this was America not Russia or Venezuela.

Democracy is not in crisis and we know that bc dems don’t act like it.

A party making a democratic decision to endorse an independent who will run in a democratic election is Communism, yes.
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« Reply #148 on: October 30, 2022, 02:38:16 PM »

Dems claim dmeocracy’s in crisis, and then they turn around and ban Kael Weston from running. I thought this was America not Russia or Venezuela.

Democracy is not in crisis and we know that bc dems don’t act like it.

A party making a democratic decision to endorse an independent who will run in a democratic election is Communism, yes.
I would be perfectly fine with it if they simply endorsed McMullin and still let Weston run as an independent, but they invoked a sore loser mechanism to ban him altogether. That’s the problem here.
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« Reply #149 on: November 03, 2022, 07:27:11 AM »



I wonder if McMullin could get some ads up with this quickly.
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