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« on: September 28, 2021, 08:36:26 PM »

Thought that recently came to me.
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2021, 12:27:39 AM »

Nope, but the simplest solution for the airline would be to remove her from the position and transfer her to an on-the-ground one - ticket desk or something in-office.
Thing is though, the jobs really aren't comparable. Though people tend to think of flight attendants as wait staff, or as the Replacements put it a "Waitress in the Sky" (a song Paul wrote about the abuse hurled at his sister who worked as one), they're actually primarily there for to ensure safety and assist in evacuation if needed, hence why the FAA has a minimum ratio of them to passengers required for each flight.

Incidentially it reminds me of an interesting fact I heard: FAA regulations also require that there be two people in the cockpit at all times, no exceptions. If the pilot or even co-pilot wants to even use the bathroom briefly, thus a flight attendant needs to take their place for that time. The reasoning is to avoid a scenario where a suicidal pilot decides to take the rest of the plane down with them.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2021, 11:47:26 AM »
« Edited: October 20, 2021, 11:28:41 PM by super easy, barely an inconvenience »

Incidentially it reminds me of an interesting fact I heard: FAA regulations also require that there be two people in the cockpit at all times, no exceptions. If the pilot or even co-pilot wants to even use the bathroom briefly, thus a flight attendant needs to take their place for that time. The reasoning is to avoid a scenario where a suicidal pilot decides to take the rest of the plane down with them.

This is far from the primary reasoning for the rule.  Having two pilots always on the flight deck greatly reduces the likelihood of human error compared to sole operation.  Pilots and co-pilots are constantly forced to verbalize flight conditions, control inputs, and reactions to one another in a way that makes them much more salient.  This is the same reason surgery teams include multiple doctors.

More generally, sterile cockpit rules increase flight crew members' attention to essential operational activities.  This is especially true during critical phases of flight (i.e., taxiing, take-off, landing, flight below 10,000 ft, etc.)  Flight attendants can and do enter the cockpit during flights, but it happens pretty rarely.  Pilots leaving the flight deck for any reason is even more unusual.

There's other reasons too yes but you're referring more to how all flights are required to have both a pilot and a co-pilot. I'm talking specifically about the rule that if one leaves the cockpit than a flight attendant must always take their place. Yes that may not happen that often but when it does that's the rule (and I'm sure it's more common on like international or even intercontinental flights, I doubt it's common for them both to spend 12 straight hours in the cockpit.)

It's also of course due to health risks, like if the remaining pilot is showing signs of a heart attack or whatever, someone needs to be there to observe it.
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